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Lol. I agree with most of the other things you’ve said, but this is just not how most guys experience dating and girls Many guys can’t get a single girl, let alone be picky about which girls they chase. A lot of guys end up very feeling very scarce when it comes to girls and it’s usually not because they’re being too picky. It’s usually a much deeper issue to do with social skills and sense of self worth

For couples earning roughly the same (prob the most common setup) anything but the 50/50 mindset is going to be unhealthy If you earn a decent living say 40k a year and I’m making twice or thrice that then yea I should pay a bit more. Maybe 75/25, because we’re going to be living a more expensive lifestyle in line with my earnings that it would be unfair to expect you to contribute 50/50 to But girls making a reasonable wage should always be expected to contribute a reasonable amount to the cost of living

I think we probably agree on roughly what the balance should be based on this, my main point was that I think immediately leaving him is a bit harsh Most students get their first full time job around 21-22 so I imagine it is probably his first time making real world money. Give him a year or two of sympathy to be cautious and learn what he can get away with spending each month I was pretty stingy with money when I first got my job a year ago, now I’d say I’m actually over spending a bit the past few months. It’s a very tricky thing to balance but I think starting on the side of stingy and learning to be abundant is better than having to reign in your over-spending I see a few dudes my age wearing £2000 outfits that they bought with Klarna and are now drowning in debt. That’s an abundant mindset but it’s a million times worse than being stingy about meals and gym memberships, and it’s far harder to recover from It is also possible he’s just naturally going to be extremely scarce and stingy and if that never changes despite communication with him then I totally agree, she should leave if she’s not happy and he isn’t listening

I agree. He’s being a cheap bastard. But it seems an unfair reason to leave him without even talking about it. The dude is also young and probably a bit anxious about how he handles his money If this was an older guy I would actually be more inclined to agree with you, but as a young guy who has recently started a full time job I can sympathise with wanting to be cautious with money once you start earning it IMO if both parties earn above a certain amount its 50/50 every time with occasional treats from one to the other If I’m working and dating a student I’ll pay maybe 75% of the time but I’m not there to finance this girls university stay, she still has to pay her own way sometimes or I feel like I’m being taken advantage of

Throw in some balls to the walls partying every Saturday and that’s basically paradise

I like that this is all you took from that comment Dude, you’re looking for excuses, I’m sorry I know it’s scary. It feels like it would take so much time and effort to attract girls. But it’s not as bad as it seems And it’s certainly better than the alternative of sitting alone in your room forever

That’s fair enough. But keep that pace up at the very least. I only thought that way because you couldn’t really give an exact number or estimate to how many girls you meet a week, but you should be meeting enough girls weekly that you can at least put a rough number on it The more new girls you talk to the better your dates go. I used to be very invested in dates but now idgaf because I know if I want to meet girls I can meet 20 every weekend. It lets you have more fun in dates instead of feeling like they’re a job interview Also knowing lots of girls doesn’t really count for that much. I’m assuming most of these girls are friends. Once that frame is set it’s tough to undo. It’s less about knowing lots of girls and more about your ability to meet new girls whenever you feel like it

Well somehow those dudes are getting girlfriends. I highly doubt they’re doing that without talking to any girls A lot of extroverted dudes don’t need to frame it as approaching because they go out with friends and naturally bring new people into the conversation, many times girls. It’s not really approaching for them, it’s just all very natural If they go out and have fun with their group of friends there will be lots of natural socialising and intermingling of groups where they get tons of exposure to girls But if this doesn’t come naturally then you’ve got to be a bit more direct and start approaching rather than just waiting for things to happen to you Most of the framing in your posts very much comes across as “I want a girlfriend without having to go and talk to girls” That is often what it feels like you want when I read your posts 90% of relationships start with the guy approaching the girl in some flirty way, it’s unavoidable. If you’re introverted you have to learn this skill Also no one is telling you to go and do a thousand approaches. Even just like meeting 5 new girls a week would be better than sitting waiting for things to happen to you. It’s scary, but it’s not as bad as it seems. Just find one or two ways you can increase your exposure to girls and go from there Even if you have everything else in your life together, which it sounds like you do, that doesn’t mean you automatically deserve a GF with zero extra effort. You still need to do a bit of work for it, but it’s not that much work. Well, it’s not that much work if you get lots of exposure to girls

A lot of guys do this to avoid being taken advantage of Then again he also sounds like a stingy bastard too. If he has more money and he is working he should def be paying for more, but never everything You should just talk to him about it tbh

It sounds like you’re in a pretty crappy city/town. In a half decent town/city almost every club will have at least some decent girls in it on a Saturday night I live in a town of 80-100k people and Saturday nights are great no matter where you go here. Other nights are super dead tho

Where have you only seen good looking guys hook up with girls? I see all sorts of guys and girls with different looks hooking up when I go out

I think learning to have a great time while you’re out is a great starting point. Learn to just chill while you’re in social environments, learn to approach girls as it feels right, you’ll make good progress

Oral with a condom? What the fuck? You put it on before you’re gonna have actual sex

Whether they approach spam or not, they’re still approaching at least a few girls which from the sounds of it is more than you’re doing Everyones path is different. It sounds like you just want girls to fall into your lap with zero effort because you see a few other guys get that. Well tough shit, very few guys get that. Life ain’t fair Sorry if this sounds aggressive but I do get the sense you want to get results with girls with very little effort which just isn’t how it works. You’re going to need to challenge yourself and do things that are difficult

“It might not work so I’m not even gonna try” ^ This is a sure fire way to get zero results

Your average extroverted dude (approx. 50% of the population) will easily meet 5 girls a week if they go out at weekends or go to parties Talking to lots of girls when you want a girl friend is an extreme measure? Most guys don't have girls falling at their lap, it takes work. Especially for an introvert Talking to a bunch of girls is exactly what most guys do when they want a GF... Just do it, don't try. This isn't something you can succeed at with an "well I'll maybe give it a shot" attitude

The fact you can't even come up with an estimate suggests that it is extremely low and inconsistent If you're not consistently talking to and hitting on even 5 new girls a week you have exactly zero things to be complaining about because the problem is obvious Of course you'll get friendzoned if you are only talking romantically to such a small number of girls

True masculinity would not feel threatened by feminism

Say whatever you want about him, but ultimately he has probably had a more beneficial impact on the world than a detrimental one Obviously it's hard to gauge that, and you're perfectly valid to criticise him about specific issues. I think the video you linked does a good job of that in regards to veganism. But I always feel sceptical of criticism of a successful public figure that tries to paint their entire being in a negative light, especially in very outright derogatory ways: This kind of take does not demonstrate much wisdom on your part either, in fact I'd say it's ironically a very egoic take

If you ever feel like you're better than everyone around you, it means you're not challenging yourself enough You should consistently be surrounded by people that you feel are better than you, and learn to feel humble in their presence rather than intimidated by them

Parts of what you say here are good. Developing yourself as a man is good. But all this toxic trash about a 'war between feminism and redpill'? That's the propaganda Stop calling it redpill and just start developing yourself as a man. You've been brainwashed by redpill. The most effective kind of brainwashing is the brainwashing that leads you to believe you're "free from the system" when actually you've just been indoctrinated into another system You can embody the good parts of redpill without identifying with it so strongly. But you identify with redpill like fucking crazy and it will ruin your life if you take it far enough

You have to be extremely off-putting visually. Like bottom 5% of looks for guys maybe. Then I could understand this statement. But I see guys of all shapes, sizes and appearance with average to hot girls all the time It's also body language. Your brain is designed to spot fearful and 'defeated' low status body language. Or 'weak' body language. Girl's brains are even moreso wired towards detecting it. That's probably why you can spot them but can't put your finger on why you think they're an incel

Out of curiosity, how many new girls do you meet on a weekly basis?

If I'm enjoying the vibe and in a good state I don't set goals, just go with the flow and approach as I feel it If I'm in a shitty mood then I set myself concrete goals and reward myself for talking to x amount of people over the course of the night

You made another post talking about being lonely. I am feeling that you might use this form a tad excessively as a substitute for not getting as much socialising in real life done as you’d like. I recognise it because I also use the forum far more frequently during periods of loneliness. It’s an easy trap to fall into I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s bad that you have a lot of posts, but it could indicate that you are using the forum as a substitute for human connection I also know that you probably want comforting rather than being told a solution, but I really really would recommend that you try to build up a solid social circle in the real world and disconnect from the forum for a bit I wish you all the best, whatever you choose to do