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Getting ratioed. Although Dan shouldn’t conflate Judaism with Zionism. The disparity in likes is brutal lol. Why is it even Adam is the one speaking against the Epstein list coming out on PBD - Zionists must know it implicates Israeli intelligence networks via Robert Maxwell etc and they do anything to protect Zioland. The deeper down the rabbit hole we go, the more silent the T gets..jk obviously 😂

In your own words ''the Jews grabbed land connected to their ancestral home'' but then ''what happened before Israel is completely irrelevant'' - its totally relevant when Zionists want to make their case like you just did though. And according to the same logic, Palestinians ''aren't going to let it go'' either, which is why both need to learn to co-exist somehow cos both ain't fuckin leavin lol

@PurpleTree She’s interviewing Nick Fuentes tomorrow. Gonna be interesting - despite his shitty racist views his geopolitical analysis is solid - even though he never acknowledges why the US may want to be doing what it’s doing in the Middle East. His view is that it’s solely Israel wagging the dog that is the US. Some are going in hard on Trump, others are going through hard times about Trump 😂 I definitely think this shatters the myth of Trump the prophet of MAGA - bit similar to how the JFK shooting shook peoples trust in institutions. Trump ran on being the anti-establishment wrecking ball but he just wrecked their entire identity. Elons smelling the opportunity and forming a third party wherever that will lead - 2028 is gonna be interesting for sure. Who knows.. I do feel like a significant proportion of those who voted Trump were protest voting and just hoping on some change - many people are simply politically homeless. Given the opportunity they may jump to a viable third option. Even a 10-20% loss in votes fractures certainty in any of the two uni-parties winning. The bottom line is that the US empire is in retreat - it either lashes out (Trump) or wimpers out (Biden). There’s nothing it can do to stop the relative decline of itself and the relative rise of others who challenge it (BRICS) - short of all out war. Any actions taken to do so only expedite its downfall - make no mistake no matter which party came in power the end result would be the same - it’s only a matter of timeline. Exhibit from just last night: Hilarious to see MAGA folk cheering Brazil fucked around and is finding out. Little do they know lol

Meaning ordinarily is thought to be found in a purpose which has objective ends to be achieved. So we think we find meaning in walking a path, which is a means to an end. But because existence is endless, true meaning and purpose is a means to the endless. The world of form is a formality in which the formless plays. There are meanings and purposes found in the world of form, yet people walking these paths still struggle to find meaning in them. Because as long as you have a means to an end, the meaning will eventually come to an end with it. In the world of form, temporary meaning is found in temporary purposes - once one purpose is fulfilled we look for the next. Child becomes student, student becomes employee, employee becomes boss, boss becomes parent which becomes grandparent - but whats the grand purpose and meaning? In the world of the formless, there is no form to have a utility, to have a means to BE through and a purpose to strive towards, yet it is itself meaningful and purposeful because it is BEing - and being is the ultimate meaning and purpose. So we don't ordinarily walk towards meaning - we are meaning itself walking. Worldly purposes are purposeful and meaningful only because BEing and BEings walk through them. Remember the saying - we are human beings have a spiritual experience? It's also true that we are spiritual beings or BEing itself, having a human experience. The world of form is a formality where the formless plays. If meaning is being, then what is being? Being is be-longing. We have a longing to be, but to be what? Alive itself which is being itself. But alive at what level and intensity? Cosmically of course - as cheesy at that sounds. We fulfill this longing for the whole in parts - along a ladder of belonging which starts in a small circle that expands . First we belong to a family unit, then a tribe, then a nation, then a religion that is larger than a nation - religion is the circle at the threshold between being a circle and demolishing the circle to belong to the cosmic. The tragedy of today is that we have forgotten cosmic belonging while dismantling all smaller belongings - we are't held by any tradition yet are not embraced by the transcendent. We are essentially astronauts with cords cut off, floating in space but not yet at home in space itself - not yet a star among stars, shining bright and alive at the peak - enlightened yet embodied.

The OG on the subject;

Make no mistake - the US empire itself is an utter disgrace, regardless of which figurehead president and admin is in place. If anyone is under any illusion that they can shit more easily on the current admin simply because it’s not their favourite political party - beware that the same actions occurred under your beloved Democrat liberals, including all the wars started or expanded under the Clinton’s or Obamas. The fact that the imperial boomerang has finally made its way home domestically and shoved up the nations ass by the hands of Orange Hitler - doesn’t change the fact that the US has been an imperial empire for decades regardless of which political party was in the hot seat. I welcome you to suspend yourselves from this childish schoolyard political circle jerking and not only shit on the empire, but diarrhoea on it in full glory. May America the nation rid itself of the Empire and shine bright and good. This is the distinction needed to resolve any cognitive dissonance about how to “feel” about America. Separate the nation from the Empire. Most people are good, few are bad, and even fewer are evil. That is our only hope. Free Palestine of occupation, free America of ultra Zionism and Empire. Free the people of their illusions of “Democracy” = developed and good. Don’t also fall into the MAGA/Nick Fuentes viewpoint that all the Middle East wars are at the hands of Israel - the US itself has interest and incentive for its own actions in the Middle East. Even with the latest Iran tussle - the US empire wants to maintain primacy and the petro dollar which Iran is trading outside of along Russia and China. Iran existing as it does outside the system is a threat to the US Empire, not the nation of America. Empires don’t tolerate blatant examples of defiance. Their interests are mostly aligned. People may ask, if interests are aligned why the need for AIPAC? The existence of AIPAC is to influence how that alignment is conducted - under whose tactics and timeline. Their like a couple who agree on wanting kids (hegemony and regional dominance) but the woman (Israel) pressuring the man (US) to have kids now and on her timeline (neutralise Iran now!!). Hence I say: free America from the cold calculations of Empire, which thinks in pragmatic but heartless empire logic - but also free it from Ultra-Zionism which thinks in fanatic logic. Partisan politics over socio-cultural issues blinds us to the continuity of politics by the uni-party dealing with Empire - hence the recent frustration even amongst Trump supporters at actions on Iran and just now at covering up Epstein. Don’t mistake your vote on socio-cultural issues as a say in national security or foreign policy - where’s your democracy there? Those decisions are made above your pay grade, even though you and others around the world pay for them in blood.

The US spends as much as the next 9 countries combined on military - while China manufactures as much as the next 9 countries combined. Stark difference in orientation and outcomes: Original vid:

You’d think the following was filmed after October 7th..

They’re clearing out the shit. Let’s see where the world is in another few decades. Vietnam just joined BRICS:

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Mexicans have a sovereign state whilst Palestinians are denied one. —————— New documentary that wasn’t aired by BBC: https://www.ft.com/content/d21fc58c-c482-4818-b960-f6d31555f4bc

@Wilhelm44 Many commentators will have some version of how they think the US will fall. Some will split hairs over whether it’s a fall, or a decline. What is more clearer by the day is the US is in relative decline, and the current tension and intuition amongst many doomer types of WW3 isn’t unfounded either as rising powers challenge its hegemony. We are in the classic Thucydides trap. 75% of cases ended in war. The the current tension being felt but maybe not articulated well.

Wrote this on the other thread (US at war with Iran). I think most likely we are going into a cold peace where the current hegemon (US) will have to reluctantly accepts its position in the new world. The real war is the US being at war for its own primacy in the world - it will still be a superpower, but not THE superpower ie reign supreme over the world. Both the empire and capital elites should conclude that it’s better to be relatively powerful than the only power in town - which risks WW3 to maintain by force. The only wild cards are the fanatical ideologues (neocons) of empire that don’t care for cost benefit analysis and will even risk capital interests OR a empire no longer constrained by capital logic if a systemic collapse erodes the capital elites. It seems more likely there will be domestic civil unrest (not total civil war) than WW3 - which will be a sort of indirect Cold War through trade, tech and propaganda. If or when the US cracks financially is when things will most likely spark (but not explode) - during that time people will be ripe for heroes and saviours to rally around that provide some sort of unified myth and meaning. That would be the moment for ideologues to hijack the state apparatus which has more recently been driven by empire and capital logic, not so much prophetic (fanatic) logic. Depending on who steers the ship, they may want to re-assert imperial empire abroad through force (WW3) but domestically there will be friction against this - as there won’t be consensus over the new prophet / hero / ideological narrative. US will be a place of competing ideologies like today, but heightened, hence the civil unrest. It’s a militarised, armed and polarized society that lacks trust in institutions or a shared narrative (Christian nationalism vs secular liberalism).

Like I said earlier - you can’t print industrial capacity. This is why WW3 fears are overblown. This is also why the US just shit bombed a mountain in Iran and claimed victory - to maintain an image of primacy in a world their actually losing their position of primacy in. Hegseth even acknowledged in an interview that the US lost against China in simulated war games. The US empire may be arrogant but it isn’t suicidal. They definitely don’t want to find out what China’s capable of first hand: “China’s development of a fractional orbital bombardment system (FOBS) paired with a hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) represents a major leap in military capability, as it allows a missile to be launched into low Earth orbit, travel partially around the globe, and then release a maneuverable warhead that reenters the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds—making it nearly impossible for current U.S. missile defense systems to detect, track, or intercept. This means China could theoretically strike any point on Earth from any direction, including over the South Pole, bypassing America’s northern-focused early warning systems. The system’s unpredictability, global reach, and speed mark a significant challenge to U.S. strategic deterrence, signaling that China may be ahead in certain advanced weapons technologies. It’s developments like this that likely fuel proposals such as Trump’s rumored “Golden Dome”—an ambitious, costly plan to create a next-generation missile defense shield to protect the entire U.S. from threats like this.”

News from today:

I agree. Before I was looking at the driving force of the state from the lens of capital - after this professors videos I would conclude that there is also a empire logic at play in driving the state - though they usually work in conjunction. This professor over-weights the logic of empire wanting to maintain primacy, against the logic of capital wanting to maintain stable profits. A framework I've come to is that there are 4 pillars / domains that make up power: - People ( Nation state, the masses seeking the good life) Offer empire and capital legitimacy. - Primacy ( Empire state, the muscle seeking primacy on the world stage ) National security / deep state military elites ie NSA, CIA, FBI - Profit ( Capital-cloud estate, money seeking profits ) Wall Street / tech elites ie Blackrock, Big Tech - Prophecy ( Religious or secular, ideology seeking meaning ) Moral cover / justification weaponised by empire and capital. Empire's primacy and capital's profits are served at the expense of the nation states people - hence as you said ''people started noticing that their politicians aren’t listening to anything they say anymore'' and so we have the rise of populism across the West. The ideological buy in for empire behaving imperially (American exceptionalism) and capital behaving extractively (Capitalism) no longer hold meaning for most people. Foreign policy is written in board rooms (capital) and war rooms (empire), and later justified in newsrooms (ideology). Social media is shredding the narrative control of empire and capital - who are then losing legitimacy among their own masses, let alone those it has already dominated abroad. The way capital and empire work together is that capital profits from access (to markets, regions, resources) whilst empire (muscle-military dominance) ensures favourable access (SWIFT, petro-dollar primacy). Capital runs on empires guardrails. Capital plays on the gameboard that empire has built for it - to be in a position of primacy from which it can be extractive. Empire fires shots so that capital can call the shots. This has been the status quo for the past decades during pax-Americana. That status quo is now changing with the rise of peer rivals and a new game board being constructed by the likes of China, Russia, Iran (BRICS etc). So primacy and uni-polar hegemony is threatened, and with it, the position of primacy from which capital could dictate terms to favor itself and extract from others as predator rather than partner. Capital wealth is denominated in dollars and dependent on market access - both of which are threatened by those who want to de-dollarize by trading in local currencies and make access conditional. Up to now, Empire muscle has been enforcing and tilting the game board in its favor in much of the world, by enforcing or coercing access for its capital elites (corporations, hedge/vulture funds). But now they are up against the last man standing in the Middle East who has historically denied them access (nationalization of oil followed by a CIA backed coup) and continues to do so: Iran. Luckily, Iran is a proud civilisational state that is a geographic fortress, overlooks strategic choke points and has enough muscle to deter aggression - unlike its neighbors who have been de-stabilized and subjugated to the empire. It’s also co-architecting the new game board being built by China and Russia which de-dollarizes trade and calls for sovereignty over subjugation. So the tension arises between empire and capital - empire says ''we can't lose out to the new game in town'' whilst capital says ''but this could risk annihilation or exclusion from the game entirely - disrupting everything we've built''. Empire wants to strong arm the last defiant example in the Middle East to concede to its terms and not engage in building a new game (with BRICS) that disrupts the game they dominate in. Capital wants to deal make partial access even if it means concessions their arrogance isn't used to - rather than risk total exclusion or annihilation ie game over. They see a negotiated partial access under multi-polarity as a game still worth playing, over a total extractive access that risks ending the game entirely. The reality is that empire has met its match in muscle whilst losing its narrative control over the masses it needs to sell their actions to. Any wrong moves at this stage expedite its decline from within (people uprising against empire - populism) and from without (nations banding together against imperial belligerence) as we've already see happening with Trumps tariff game which is just another mechanism of attempting to maintain primacy by offsetting the costs of empire. What is most likely to happen is a slow decline in relative power against new powers rising in a multi-polar world, and the US empire and capital elites learning to come to terms with not being the ones to always set the terms in the new world.

That's the hard part with these chants - not knowing what the person chanting thinks. If it's a Western liberal saying ''from the river to the sea'' it could mean democracy and freedom in terms of equal rights (self-determination included), if its a Palestinian it could mean liberation that could be in the form of two states or a single one, which further splinters into: are Israeli's expelled from the state or included in it. But like you said, we get into rationalizing the meaning behind the meaning behind - but everyone has different meanings and definitions. And that's another issue with protest slogans - they have to be short and punchy which means they inevitably lead to misunderstanding and confusion unlike a well thought out article or essay. I think what's getting to a lot of people is that more of a fuss is being made about these slogans (which should be dealt with as they incite violence/hatred) instead of stopping the actual actions of the IDF which have a state behind them that speaks in genocidal ways. Yea these people were in a rave and dance/rave that way regardless of the song or slogan. This slogan is now being done by street protesters in Australia: I think it just shows how much anger Israel has stirred up by its actions which ironically makes Jews less safe as there are people out there who conflate what the state of Israel does with Jewish people as a whole.

Chanting death to anyone or thing is always going to be seen as provocative and crossing a line. At the same time “death to” is usually symbolic shorthand for ending the violence that X group causes. Same way Iran says death to America and Israel - the empire intervening and occupying the region, not the nation itself or its people. There’s a difference between chanting death to the KKK vs Americans, or death to the Nazi’s vs the Germans, similarly death to the IDF (the group causing suffering to Palestinians) vs Israelis (who aren’t directly doing so). Below we have chants shouting death to Arabs as a whole - which is starkly different;

Israel fatigue is real. Even PBD clowns getting hot and bothered with each other over it: NYC’s mayor winning: UK’s largest music festival (Coachella) streamed on UK’s main BBC had one singer get the crowd chanting “death death to the IDF”:

https://www.politico.eu/article/iran-ban-iaea-chief-rafael-grossi-surveillance-camera-nuclear-plant/

I guess the tricky part is establishing intent. Let’s say you want to target a criminal amongst a crowd of innocent people - a sniper would be precise, a shotgun less precise due to bullet spray, a rocket launcher way less precise. At each level you can say “my intent isn’t to kill innocents but the criminal” - but at the same time there is no intent to avoid civilian death either. It’s like lighting a candle on a bookshelf with a flamethrower - the intent isn’t to set the bookshelf on fire but that happens regardless because of the method chosen to light the candle. There are Israelis who aren’t intent on killing civilians and take caution, there are others who take less caution to none at all, and then there are others who are intent on killing civilians - which are the evil ones. We have heard clear intent to go after civilians and that there are no innocents. The clearest case of collective punishment is blockading the place of aid, turning off electricity, water etc. Like you said, whatever its called: genocide, ethnic cleansing etc - it’s horrific either way. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000