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@Bodhitree Categorizing your studies is great! But saying that you will only learn from 'enlightened people' (not saying this is what you're saying) is extremely limiting.

I feel that my enlightenment journey is so scattered and everywhere. I have deep insights, but they come and go so quickly I am not sure how to chart my progress. Does anyone have any good advice on how to structure or stay organized during your enlightenment journey? I have written down all of the 'Many Facets of Awakening' from Leo's episode. But how do you guys practice and work towards awakening daily, when not knowing what type of enlightenment you will have? I guess I have no intention with my meditations so I don't feel like I'm accomplishing anything. What are your guys' daily routines?

@m0hsen thank you! <3

The first minute of this song! Let me know what you guys think!!!

Where do you guys get your body energy practice? Leo mentions in one video how he would make another video on this topic (feeling body energy) but I'm not sure if he ever has!

No matter who writes the book, the book was written by an ego. Whether coming from an 'enlightened' person or not. Some egos are less ignorant than others. But, all egos are egos. If they are claiming to be enlightened, they may be less ignorant than others especially as it pertains to enlightenment, but they are still egos at the end of the day. This is why, I don't think it is best to limit your learning to "only enlightened people" which is basically what you are saying. I think learning from someone who has gone through a great deal of suffering- like suffering through a concentration camp as V. Frankl had- is deeply valuable. Someone who has developed the humility, love, and ability to see past their ego through enormous suffering is something worthy of learning from. I would say, Victor Frankl, being a concentration camp survivor, is definitely one of those people.

these interpretations are incredibly beautiful! I am going to write them down in my journal as affirmations.

This is also restricting and limiting in that it gives people the idea that their 'destiny' will fall into their lap without much effort. Super dangerous.

This is very true. This is why I plan to keep up with studying enlightenment, but maybe not so much in a structured or orderly way. I agree with the others in that trying to stay organized might be counterintuitive. But I do believe I should at least stay conscious of enlightenment in this pursuit and ideas that have been passed on to me. I feel that some people have bits of awakening experiences without truly understanding what it is they are.

@Haumea2018 thank you very much, this is great advice.

Ah! I want that. How!? My meditations don't lead me to mind fuckery.

Ohhh my goodness. Okay. I see where I was thinking wrong now. I was thinking that God was all things simultaneously so there was like reminisce of God in everyone. But what you're saying is that God can't know at all that it is God in order for it to understand what it's like to be one thing. God can't partially be God and partially be some other thing. "God has to actually BECOME those things" fully and entirely for what it is– its form, its limitation– in order to TRULY understand what it's like to be that one thing. God has to surrender its identity entirely (i.e. selfless) to understand what it's like to be something. God can't be anything else while being that one thing because then God wouldn't be that one thing– it would be that one thing plus or minus some other thing that wasn't true to that thing. Wow. I knew God was Selfless but now I understand WHY. Which leads me to understand why God can't be anything. Holy shit. I finally get it. The idea of The Self with a capital S is what was not letting me comprehend the selflessness component. But now I see. Thank you Leo!

How can you feel selfless if you are one? So your answer is that you can't feel selfless if all feelings are one. You can only feel selfless if you make the distinction between self and selfless. Is that right? It's funny because I thought my initial question was before distinction because it was about the nature of God: how can you be no-self (i.e selfless) if you ultimately are The Self, The Ultimate Self, God, The Godhead, Consciousness– isn't this a Self? A Self of all things? While combining all dualities as one, as The Self, God, this is not self-less– this is the Ultimate Self, this is God. Yet, in working reality, because reality is dual this is where selfless comes in. Because God, in reality, never considers itself or acts as a God. It considers itself or acts as all things, which is selfless in reality. A selfless way of being. It just because this episode was about love that made me think of God as a being. One that can feel, one that can love. This ultimate being made me conclude, "well if God is a being, a being of all things, God is The Self" God is the Ultimate Self which is not 'self-less' it is The Ultimate Self! But as you point out, this is prior to any distinctions. After distinctions, you have selfless.

Very interesting! This gives me a new understanding. So, it sounds like we create this thing in the first place in order to feel anything at all. Is this right? Otherwise, why would we create something in order to not feel it? We need to create it to experience it, learn from it, love it, and then let it go.

This explanation makes me think: "Okay. God is selfless because God doesn't consider itself God. God considers itself all of the things in which it has created; therefore having no self of its own (e.g selfless)." It's hitting me! I wish this "understanding through feeling" thing @allislove brought up lasted forever. Can we get to this point!?

This is great!

Okay, I did not know this rule about SDS. I have literally sat for 45 minutes straight while my leg was asleep and did not move– pretty painful!! LOL!

"Who are you if you cannot think" - @soularlight I love this!!! Thank you for sharing.

@allislove This is exactly what I was wanting to understand. I see God as an infinite mind so when I hear Leo saying God accepts everyone because God is 'selfless' it made me think of selfless in a 'thinking' way like you suggested but I need to understand it from a 'feeling' way. That's so perfect. Thank u!

Okay, this helps a ton!!! thank u!

Yes, I am definitely wrapped up in concept! I also misunderstood the word 'selfless'. ah! thanks for your response!

@SoonHei Okay, this gave me the epiphany I needed! YAY!!! I understood selfless as self-less, but your pizza analogy really put it over the top for me. Thank u!! <3

Thank you all so much for your help and kindness! I am feeling such a warm welcome to the forum. @allislove @traveler @Soonhei @Moksha @Nahm

I just had a second thought. I see God as selfless if you are considering selfless to be self-less (i.e. without a self; lower case self). But is this what Leo was meaning by selflessness in this episode? Without a self? When he talks about how God, or consciousness, is capable of love it makes me think it is also capable of selflessness. But how can you feel selfless if you are one? p.s. I use the word God because that is the word Leo uses in this episode.