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@Windappreciator Hahaha, I can tell. Do you have a guide or do they just come and go as they please?

@BenG it comes in through the underside of reality or the flip side of it and you can have these experiences either if you're really sick or if you almost die or if you take a psychedelic, it can alter things and you can learn to do it that way. It's hard to explain if you haven't had an experience but it's something that I believe that anybody can have, learning about afterlife realms and stuff. The beings that I talk to have said that human beings can learn how to do these things by trying different plant medicines, and different ones have different messages in them and they have been left by alien races to share how to live in peace and die in peace; advance our communication and grow with them. So if you wanted a siddhi all you'd have to do is find the plant that calls to you and feels right when you take it and to go in informed. Siddhis come about in such a personal way; a plant would teach better and know more than a human. My words completely butcher the ability to explain any of what I'm talking about I just can't do it, sorry. There are a few spaces I know of you can learn siddhis in: death, astral, dream, psychedelic - all better teachers than humans. Salvia droid art explains my experiences best but they are physical and mental not so much visual. Death or sickness is one of the best ways to get a siddhi and you will hear many people who have had near-death experiences come back with gifts. ^starts out looking like this place, it's like a great big nothing with stars representing consciousnesses aka beings that have no bodies, just hanging out waiting to share stuff with other life forms. Most of them are in feeling, but some people get full visuals of them.

@JuliusCaesar that's good that you're only doing a small dose but I wonder if maybe a plant that you can take a higher dose on and stay safe might be better suited for your purposes. When I experienced my delirium from fever it was very intense with a lot going on with the body as well, I don't think people can get there unless they are either in an extreme predicament or they have taken a plant that can allow their reality to be strongly altered, and if you get the opportunity to have a full-on experience of the other side you will see what I mean by it mean to be an intense experience. The dream world leaks into the real world and in that state you have to play by the plants/afterlife rules. It is hard to explain, I noticed that you mentioned salvia earlier and I am planning on trying it sometime this summer. But if you want death experience, then the salvia trips give me deja vu into my fever experience. It might suit you better. I would just hate to hear that something happened on one of these substances and that you never got to have the full breakthrough experience when there are safer alternatives out there. Let me know what you think.

@Vincent S Thank you! @Windappreciator seems like you've had an experience or two yourself @BenG you can gain paranormal abilities if you are able to learn how to do it by exploring the after life realms. They want to do this. @JuliusCaesar it sounds like you can handle it. Let us know how it goes.

Hello the plant salvia has called to me and I am collecting information on this plant before I decide to use the substance. I plan to wait until I am in the right space mentally to take it. I would love to hear of your experiences taking this plant. I plan to chew it and not smoke, I will be taking small bits and upping the dose slowly. I have been sick with fever in the past that I became delirious from so I am no stranger to the sorts of experiences that a substance like this could provide. I have deja vu from reading trip reports. I feel like I know this place and am being invited to learn. I am in the process of humbling myself before going in.

I talked with my guide a bit more as I happen to be learning about these paranormal things around the same time this thread is open, the channel is open right now. My guide says that these plants are put here by different races to teach their message to humanity. They are our neighbors saying hello. So when you go into this you want to view it as a technology that you are learning from and do not go in with the idea to take from them as this is considered rude. Treat them and these places like visiting a school, church and neighbors house. Beings want to teach, they want your mind ready to learn. And then when you are ready you can gain siddhis. But you must be humble first. All you people can't you see, can't you see How your love's affecting our reality Every time we're down You can make it right And that makes you larger than life All of your time spent keeps us alive Love when going in is very important, think of things you can offer, get a setting ready for yourself and some questions to ask these plants. You'll want one you can get good takeaways from. Energetic dynamics request that you offer something first in order to continue that loop. If you go into the spiritual world with the idea that you can take things or learn something ahead of time, it is considered grave disrespect. There is a reason old cultures emphasize this point. Giving love is the highest offering. It changes reality from the other side for the better. All of the love we generate The only thing that carries me on There's nothing we need that it can't create This is the way to use prima materia. There is so much when it comes to what you can find in the afterlife that I would suggest trying a plant that can offer you a guide that can show you things that you need to know and can keep you safe when you go on these journeys. You don't have to take the most intense thing in order to find out how to gain siddhis.

My guide says that you need a guide to teach you how to do these things and they are not easy to find and don't teach/work with humans very often because the channels are hard to maintain/humans are hard to teach. They say humility and letting go of the ego will likely bring more entities to you wanting to teach than if you go in with any pride then you will attract lower ones. They say that most humans can hardly even understand or escape the wheel of karma let alone be able to do the things that you are hoping to do, they say that there are many dimensions and there are some that are held by being that are outside of normal awareness and will not make their secrets known to you if there is the possibility that the secrets could be used in the wrong way. We can make the world stop. They say. There is a lot of responsibility in what you seek, I know approximately the places you will go through and so please tread very lightly. Butterfly wings. They are like a movie real. Or something that reads us like a flip book, they can enter into any of your timelines. If you mess with something in the universe that you shouldn't they will jam up your radar so that you can't do any damage. Absolute humility is essential if you really want to learn as much as you can I can't stress this enough not only for your safety but also because it will allow you to get much further. The places that you're talking about going are very intense so please be careful... They are the very archetypes that make up the quintessential part of your personality that gives you the desire to take on this quest. They literally build your story from the other side of reality, and manage it in a very perfect and mechanical way. When humans bust into this and they get into the wiring of reality it can cause problems. Similar to a mouse in the pipes. This is why some entities are so strict, depending on the type of plant that you use I imagine that there's knowledge in some of them that needs to be digested very slowly and is not for a average person. My guide says they can bring you into their reality and keep you there forever; that humans need a lot of growth to even get off the wheel.

@JuliusCaesar I wish you the best of luck ?

@JuliusCaesar The slower, with as much respect as you can go into it then they will be able to show you much more, I am under the impression different plants have different spirits. Just be sure you have a guide going in, the rabbit hole involving death and all that goes pretty far and can get kinda strange.

I would, just to start with to get used to the space because some of what it can show you can be - just the way they do it, they don't fully understand how fragile humans are, and these beings can overdo it. It's like working with a virus that you want to mutate to work with you and lay dormant usually, but sometimes they can harm the host. I know this stuff from a disease, getting fever and sickness for a few months, I went through these realms. It can get very dark. So if these plants can help you gain wisdom, take it slow and see which one calls you because the wrong one will mess with you not just high but they can keep at it if you invite the wrong one in, esp w out a guide. I would reach out to the guide and work with it or look for a protective one, like an angel or ancestors and just go slow to learn as much as you can. You'll still get there. It isn't going anywhere.

@JuliusCaesar You have to be very very humble if you meet them. These things can drive you mad, they can literally mess with time itself, do you have a spirit guide you can call on? The after death world needs utmost respect. I'm just looking out cause my experiences with these realms have been very harsh. I would never wish them on anyone, please be careful.

There are powers you can get if you get close to death like that, but they are tricky, and so are the beings you might meet. Do it if you're ready to die for it, but go in prepared. The beings I met regularly change reality around and I notice these changes. If you mess with reality in the wrong way, those beings will mess you up.

I like that he's chill and isn't pissy. Pissy guys are annoying.

@Etherial Cat Good points. Death is complicated. There's a lot going on there with it. I don't think people like that accrue karma either. I think it has to do with emotional state, how you 'let go'. Also if there is more you needed to do, then karma will still be there imo. But someone dying of terminal illness is probably in a different category of karma than say, a young girl who commits suicide because of bullying, or something. There's probably beings who oversee this sort of thing and can sort people with the utmost fairness. A person who is terminal might be ready to let go after a lot of contemplation and will not have karma because of how they approach death openly. They might be at peace and then move onto higher places. I think karma is something the individual knows best as well, where they need to work on or if they are truly ready to leave. We can only speculate, but I have a feeling it is also ultra personal and so impossible to categorize too much on how karma works. I've been reading a lot about the wheel ? though, and how it sorts people for the next life. Like cogs and gears we have free will to open just through self development, more and more is permitted by unlocking reality. I'll bet the process is mechanical and perfect.

I wish I understood better how karma functions, but yes emotional state has a lot to do with it and I don't think it's fair either lol. I like to think the soul's group, or family members would come to get the person and show them how to use their mental/emotional state in the afterlife. Or perhaps the person quickly enters another body out of fear. There is probably, just like on earth a lot of different ways death goes down because different cultures have documented very complex, but unique understandings of the afterlife and how it works. I think it will be primarily benevolent, though, just like life. I don't think death wants to harm, I think it would console, and inform, and show a person how to do better. I think, once the frightened soul is calmed, then they have the option of staying to heal, to contemplate on life and to just be connected with everything. I think only the mind creates hell. I think it will be okay, just like life or a pinball machine, learning the ropes on how to incarnate. We are probably all students. In a loving school, of forgiveness, safety and goodness. I think going in informed is good though, and probably clears a lot of karma. Just my beliefs though.

@lmfao Yessir. But what's more important is that there's these... Places people get stuck in. Like, mentally. And I'm back in it, but aware this time from trip reports so I got this. But it's everywhere, the reality or delusion idk which rn.

@lmfao I didn't approach, usually I'm approached, but I tend to react after an encounter. If it ends up being kind of weird. But I guess that's just common place for how people interact with one another and I didn't realize that because other people have experienced the same sort of behavior on other forums and we're telling me about that. The way they all fizzle out tends to be the way human cultures and cities and countries and pretty much everything that we do seems to work there's a period of growth and then a very long die off.

I had many Awakening experiences after leaving this place... That seems to be a common theme when a group of people because having a large group of people saying the same thing seems to paradigm lock one another and new information doesn't enter the system. I was really sick with fever dreams for like a year and a half, and I'm looking at salvia trip reports and they are all so similar to what I was experiencing that I feel like I have a comprehensive understanding of to some extent some sort of weird alternate dimension... At least I don't feel alone knowing other people have had the same intuitions/initiation. This place can be a strong paradigm lock if you are someone that is on some sort of alternate life path. The shamanic initiation requires that there is no previous knowledge put into the system before it sees what it's real for itself. Otherwise you override an archetype with your own archetype and it ends up not being pure. I don't know how to explain it but these spiritual circles I think can cause a lot of damage if you are an imaginative person. I joined another forum and they say that they have faced similar problems with their members so I'm not sure quite what to do about the fact that people can't seem to be satisfied with wherever they're at. Maybe there is no solution for that. Maybe there are just s*** heads and narcissists everywhere and it's just kind of like you have to just recognize that they're there and deal with it.

You go onto the next place depending on your emotional state and karma. It is complicated, I do not know how karma works. But emotionally a stressed person will create that because manifestation happens faster. A calm person will have a calm experience. Practice dying calm while alive and work on good karma, too and the next life will be better.

Shadow work, a lot of it. Entities will mess with reality like that when you start to wake up and become aware of them around you. They come in through psychological blind spots. Carl Jung is the best teacher for this kind of work, I would check him out. Your subconscious is becoming your reality and so you will need to learn to control it. The rules are different when this happens. Only you will be aware of it, each episode that people have like this is unique to them, but a large part of it is being able to be stronger than the entities through knowing yourself very well. Because everything is subjective, your subconscious can have blind spots that will present as entities, or sometimes will be. The rules of reality change when this happens. I don't know much about it, but I do know that shadow work heals psychological blind spots that might bleed through and the entities should leave over time. They can't latch onto what is in the light. Awareness.

*relishing a breath inward and then outward* Focus awareness on it until the outer environment looks illuminated and clear. God.

I just got done spending the past few days combing through as much as I can on salvia trip reports. I understand all of it, because during my shamanic initiation all of that reality bending stuff, all of it, I get it, I've been there. I've been trying to explain this place for a long, long, looooong time and I have it now. And all because I left this forum, it freed up my mind. Salvia has called me through weed. But you're not suppose to smoke salvia, just chew it, that's why people get messed up. Back to weed. Weed sends me on salvia-like trips, with entities, the wheel of eternity, karma, lady salvia, the shepardess, archetypes, jesters, the whole thing. I feel like I've just learned that I looked into the Deadlights and that's why I'm nuts. I went to the hospital for a trip I thought was insanity, but I was just unraveling reality; like an overlay. This is all some great cosmic show, a circus... how nuts. That's what's really nuts. It's just a show. The fabric of reality. I felt like I uncovered it and shouldn't have and the 'other world' these beings came from were not happy about it, like I uncovered reality too much... and... talked about how to uncover reality too much, and fortunately no one really noticed what I was saying anyways. This place paradigm locks people for sure. And weed is the bomb, you can gain so much from smoking it and contemplating. It's not a club drug. You want sativa w/ dabs. High concentrate on both, and bust through reality. Weed makes me so lucid that I remember I'm in a show, and there's an audience, but it's not here - archetypes/elves/jesters/archons/demons are playing with humanity like we are just little toys. Little balloons, so easily popable. The jester is a prominent archetype nearly everywhere. Black holes. Spaghettification. Salvia gravity... I get it. How reality, how time is like a bunch of photos being taken really, really fast and you can feel that? Lady Salvia is Kali, the angry mother archetype. Makes no sense, unless you've done Salvia, but somehow I just know all about this realm. I know how dark it can get, too. How angry... there are realms of pure hate; just like love that you can visit. I'll never look at factories the same way again. There is a veil of absolute insano-reality imagination-land right under this world, like it's there all the time. Weed works. ^This picture is like what those entities are and the balloon is how they view human life, popable, shapeable, into whatever, or like the scene from Rick and Morty when they play Roy's life.. They do look like of like lifeless toys. Or like this, but in feeling. Weed is great, you can get trips like this on weed... https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=93317 I no longer fear death!

I agree, this place has changed. I'm gunna peace out for a year or more and see if the crowd has switched it up by then, maybe more healthy people here. Maybe Leo will do what he promised and ban people who are just using this place as a crutch and not doing the work; this whole community needs a fresh face. I've moved to an art community and am very happy there. No solipsism, and I don't have to read posts that are demeaning towards women as often as I do here, and the people are more healthy so it seems. This place... let me put it this way, I found saner people, better people in a mental facility than what is presented here as the typical Leo Gura follower. Leo, you need to take your followers... who is following you, seriously... if people are trauma bonding to your forum and not growing, then they're trauma bonded to you, and you should take the excruciating fault finding that you do in the women you date, and use that on who should and should not be following your work. All the good people have left or are leaving over the years. All that you will have left are people who are too messed up to be able to let go of a forum. That isn't spirituality. It's trauma bonding, and it's sad and kind of ... pathetic. I hope Leo finds a good woman soon so he can move his stage orange dating strategies to a more stage green place. Then perhaps his views on women might soften a bit. When he finds out that no one is perfect. I spent some time thinking on this... if I was in a workplace setting, would I allow myself to stay in this environment or would I find a new job? If this crowd was considered my co-workers? I would find a new job... I should treat such places the same. I had initially wanted to spend a few years growing my art hobby and giving back to this community by doing works of art pro bono for people who are in emotional/financial/spiritual turmoil - just to help - but the energy here has never really... deserved my time. I could be spending this on cancer patients or volunteering my art elsewhere in a more emotionally robust community and work on my spirituality in my own time. A lot of people here have taken on Leo's path... and not the path of memento mori, which should be included in work, because we have souls... there's so much missing when it comes to spiritual wildlife, siddhis, shamanism, ect, ect from here and has turned into a place where people just do a lot of drugs and hope that will give them what they need. I don't think God would have it this way, that a drug up the butt would be your salvation.... I think there's more grace to it than what is seen... I think there's probably comedy in doing something like that; such as developing narcissism, which is what solipsists are, essentially. I think this place set me back in my journey and I am going to do my spirituality on my own, and find friends who are artistic and crafty somewhere better.... A lot of people have mentioned the same things over the years, you have the more sensitive people who leave because this place is just not friendly. It isn't heart-centered. I've been gaslit a lot here... and I don't like it. I don't like that you can't stick up for yourself, that people who do wrong by this community are not removed quicker than they should be. So... okay. Keep the trauma bonded personality disordered, and I will take my value, my art, my time, and pool it all into a community that deserves it. This place is whack.

Bunny! I took my totem animal and added everywhere I want to go when I am in heaven, how I want to present my "room" so to speak. I like the idea of taking a spirit animal, and adding what you want to it to signify what you will create once free from this flesh form. I will add to it when I find new landscapes that look like something I would like to experience, so it will over time take a more patchwork look to it. "Take me to Heaven!"