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Interesting! I just also recently tried 10g of creatine a day due to this: So far I am not sure has it helped. At least I believe, I need less sleep.

Yep. Would love to hear your rags to riches story

Someone can have solid insights about dating and attraction but have terrible character. Most pickup artists are that.

Why do you think that?

Of course it is

And you think building and maintaining a social circle isn’t time consuming? Besides, how do you even plan on creating a social circle without cold approaching people?

Rarely is any girl an extreme feminine, to the point of toxic femininity. It’s a question of scale. For example, I have my masculine side, but I also have my feminine side. I couldn’t stand a fully feminine girl, to the point of extremity. The girl needs to have some assertiveness and emotional maturity in her, for me to actually be drawn to her. An extreme femine girl might be attracted to an extreme masculine man, but for someone like me, an extreme feminine girl is just too chaotic, ungrounded, juvenile and frankly, annoying.

Almost all women are down for a casual hook up, when the right man arrives. Also, almost all women want a committed relationship, when the right man arrives.

If money is an issue for you, go for cheaper dates like coffee / ice cream, and just pay for both - which is anyway the best option for first dates. It goes for good mannerism and character that the one who invited, pays. And if you are so broke that to not be able to pay such a small price, then focus on taking care of your basic finances first.

The best solution to needyness is abundance. It just takes the most work and is the hardest: Go out, approach and meet a ton of people. This is the most natural solution to needyness, rather than the ”artificial ways” of self-love, altho that is important too.

There’s nothing but nature and sea all around Helsinki and Stockholm. I am in absolutely love here. And the metropolitan sizes are also not massive. There are 4 seasons here but the winters are rough if you don’t like snow and cold. But you know what’s best for you brother.

Did you consider Scandinavia? A ton of nature, and society is generally geared towards green.

@Princess Arabia Yes, of course. No one is saying that this is an overnight shift. I’m just giving him a big picture to open his mind for possibilities. The truth is that this is not easy for most guys, that’s why it is such a problem in society. It takes years of deep inner work, massive action and facing your fears to really master this.

It was posted a week or two ago. And yes, I have approached women before many times from a place of seriousness, logic, truth and got punished for it immediately. Treat them like little kids and they’ll love you.

All of this work you are doing is putting you towards the complete wrong momentum: validation seeking momentum. You need to let all of that crap go and go the opposite direction: PLAY. Read Leo’s recent Play Awakening blogpost. Owen’s hot seat digital program is worth it. Just a few hundred bucks. Don’t pay thousands for the bootcamp, unless you have ton of money to throw away. Coming from a guy who finds success with women extremely easy, and has studied and practiced seduction and attraction for over a decade.

Can we gather here all the latest and most potent information and resources? Aside from Leo’s youtube video and multiple threads about it on this forum, I would appreciate if we make it all coherent here. What do you know, especially that’s new in 2025? Please share. I will do my first ever heavy metal chelation based on all the information we gather here. @Leo Gura if you consider this thread unnecessary, and that your video and the last threads on the forum are up to date, I understand and we can take this down.

Illusion

Leo is correct here. I have personally put my serious spiritual work on pause, so I can fully work on financial freedom. Master your survival, otherwise it will come back and bite you later.

@mmKay Thanks

I cant

The story of my life, especially my 20s

The difference between master seducers and noobs is that the advanced understands the concept of ”one thing led to another, and it just happened”. You ain’t gonna logic your way into having sex with a girl.

Awakening, art & perhaps build and lead a stage green company

I gotta show respect for such a level of maturity here.

It was obviously said in a tongue-in-cheeck manner