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Deep, ruthless inner work is the answer here.

@Michael569 1. Do you consider ethics and sustainability in your approach, or are you solely looking to maximise health potential? Yes, I would prefer the most ethical and sustainable approach, but it also depends on how much I lose on the health side. 2. What are your goals? - Are they more short-term? (muscle hypertrophy, strength) or more long-term (longevity, chronic disease avoidance) All long-term goals. 3. Any eliminations? No. 4. Any existing health comorbidities? No. 5. Do you have a food budget? No. ----- Haha lol ! Yeah, thanks for the advice. I will take it -- Also, thanks @undeather and everyone else for your advice!

Being forced to do something and fighting against it is very different than accepting it.

The key here is to learn to laugh at nonsense and silly things, which is almost everything when you are socializing. I am quite like you naturally, but I have learnt to just make fun of myself and the sillyness of everything - this is the mood. Sillyness. Self-amusement. Tap into the part of life that is non-serious. The part of life that is a total joke. I mean look at the Universe! It is a one big joke: God created this amazing world just to realize that he can’t enjoy it, so he had to delude himself into a human being! He also had to create all this stupid ego games and wars, just so that he can appreciate the beauty of the Earth more… — Obviously do not hurt anyone’s ego. But just laugh at the sillyness of the ego in general. This is how I go about when I socialize with people, or even when I am having more intimate moments with girls. When cuddling with them, I do some emotional connection but deep down I know it won’t go very deep, and in order to entertain myself, I make sure to turn the whole mood into a silly nonsense once in a while. I will enjoy the superficial emotional connection, but I will deeply enjoy the fucking around mood as well (lot’s of teasing for example). But when you are just purely socializing without any intimacy, then purely just self-amuse and be silly. This is a skill to be learned, which includes the skill of letting go of your seriousness (depth) momentarily and letting loose. Don’t cling to it like a baby to its mother. A truly mature person knows also when to let loose and be silly.

Funny I started having the same inclination building up inside me recently too. I need a place to channel my deep natural tendency to think and contemplate. I do a lot of journaling / writing down but I think it would be lovely to also get outside perspectives to my thinking. But this place is like perfect for it! I get to help people, while getting helped myself. Awesome! Just need to be vary of some of the limits and the negative stuff (this place still probably has the least of them out of all places), which are part of the game. Looking forward to getting to know ya’ll better! Much love.

My standards increase all the time. A girl who was hot when I started game, I consider very average nowadays. Tbh, some I even consider quite ugly. It is shocking. And even in recent years, I notice that someone I considered attractive a few years ago, isn’t so attractive nowadays after all. Other thant that, I think you should not repress this part of you, and actually fully allow it by going through it via the idea of deeply exhausting your material desires. See Leo’s burning through karma video. Extremely powerful video about our ordinary human life. —- General advice for all: Take care of your basic needs first, and don’t ignore the part of deep exhaustion of material desires, when diving into spirituality.

Exactly! Hence the idea here is that I get people's opinions and thoughts so I can make my own judgment for myself. So I will actually throw the question back at you. What do you consider clean eating to you? My aim is to have the healthiest possible food for my own body. I understand that different people can't handle different food. So far, I haven't had any problems with any food diet. I can go vegan too, if that is the healthiest to me. But I can also eat meat, if that is the healthiest for me. -- I would consider junk food anything that is not very nutritious food. Basically any food that has low nutritional value. -- Ella Woodrow case is interesting. I will look into it. Appreciate you taking time to answer.

Yeah, wondering the same.

Oh I see. I thought you meant a new map on a higher level stuff than game, but yes.

What is this map that you are talking about?

I spend a ton of time gaming in terraces and patios and oh boy I breath a lot of it in. Also, there is smoke in the queues to the clubs. And smoke in the street itself, which can be a golden place to game as well. From what I understand, it is basically as bad as smoking cigarettes itself, you just inhale less than the smoker who directly inhalea from the cigarette. But if you spread the second hand smoking / breathing to hours per night, then it adds up. It might be even worse than just smoking because according to google: ”the secondhand smoke is already contaminated and you're inhaling it, and it's already contaminated by the person who is smoking. So, that's even worse, because you're being doubly contaminated, more than smoking it.”

You will never get good with this level of investment and seriousness. As a beginner, you need that 30 min for a good warm-up itself already. But if you seriously only have only 30 mins per day, see if you can do 2-3 hours for just 1 day per week. This way you can get a quality session in and tap into flow / state. A classic newbie mistake is expecting this to be easy because of your ego and because of all these PUA coaches selling it to you. This work is brutal, have proper expectations and mindset otherwise you will give up very fast. You will need to invest serious time, energy, and work into it. You will also need to invest serious time into analyzing your approaches after your sessions.

I’m curious. What are you currently struggling the most with in meeting women and dating them? What about what has been the hardest in the past, if it is not that which you are struggling the most with currently?

Thanks ya'll for the answers. I just had the realization the other day that I have been breathing it for years, almost on a weekly basis going out 1-3 times a week (not always to patios and terraces, oftentimes to clubs where there are no smokes). And I'm pretty sure I will keep going out at least for a few years more, if not many more. I have always tried to consciously or unconsciously avoid it or hold my breath as much as possible, especially when the smoke flies directly to my face (can't prevent inhaling it completely of course, not even close). But then I realized, what if this can cause serious issues later on? So I got a little worried and started researching. After a while of finding so conflicting information, I started the thread. And seems like it isn't crystal clear here either. I have the bias of taking Leo's answers more seriously but of course, I want to consider other answers seriously as well. I don't mind a bit of breathing the smoke. The issue is that I have been quite hardcore at this and am still young so I still have many more years to come. Just trying to be cautious and prevent any serious long-term illness.

I’m living in Finland, Helsinki. The city air quality is one of the best. That is not the problem. But terraces and patios allow smoking and people tend to smoke more / smoke even if they don’t normally smoke, when drinking and going out. — @LSD-Rumi Can’t quote you cuz I’m on phone so I’ll tag you. I have been trying to understand this issue better and I hope you are right, but there’s just so many conflicting information and biases from anti-smoke movements to Big Pharma trying to sell Nicorette products by funding researches. Hence I posted on here hoping to have some non-biased, proper information.

Just tryna be as safe as possible because you have been pounding the idea of healthy people taking for granted / not valuing their health. https://amp.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/tobacco/health-risks-of-tobacco/secondhand-smoke.html

Lol you guys are funny

I was just reading your report 6 months ago: Powerful report. You said: ''-Authenticity, nothing else matters. All these silly Owen Cook and Social dynamic videos and courses can be dropped if you just understand that if you are calm, authentic, comfortable in your skin, and kind to others people will love you. And they will love you for who you are not because you know some stupid social tricks and can manipulate really well, that shit is exhausting anyway. Just connect with them and be real they can feel that on a subconscious level'' ---- How do you feel about this statement in the report right now?

What is your plan to go about solving this?

Self-Love is key. Pretty much impossible to get anyone to like you, or to even have a good time around you, if you hate yourself and your life.

Yeah, it does sound like you got over-entitled due to your short period of good results, then you set unrealistic expectations for yourself, which then led to you being very negative due to ''failing''. And this negative energy you carry around with yourself when talking to girls, is destroying you, which then leads to further negativity, and then the downward spiral is complete. This particular is an inner-game issue, which is most of game anyway. Of course, there probably is more outer game to learn as well, but that is for another time. Practice self-love more and have patience + compassion towards yourself.

By realizing that this is the ultimate beta path. Alphas are on their own journey focusing on their path and purpose - not out there running circles with monkeys.

This is because you are relying on passion and pure attraction and completely ignoring emotional connection, especially deep emotional connection.

Not true.

Zero experience and avoiding girls will grow you as a man? This guy got it completely backward, what a joke. First, grow a pair of balls to talk and flirt with the hottest girls around, look them deep in the eyes, and lead them to bed. Then, learn to remain grounded while doing so. After that, you may have the right to argue that girls are distracting from your growth as a man.