Miguel1

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The story of my life, especially my 20s

The difference between master seducers and noobs is that the advanced understands the concept of ”one thing led to another, and it just happened”. You ain’t gonna logic your way into having sex with a girl.

Awakening, art & perhaps build and lead a stage green company

I gotta show respect for such a level of maturity here.

It was obviously said in a tongue-in-cheeck manner

Welcome to the gang! Sadly none of us really have a good answer for that question. Our leader seems to have completely given up on that project! The best practice is to meet more people. That’s how I deal with it. And to accept that a stage green person is the best you realistically will get. Spiritual retreats & events that aren’t so hardcore can be an option, but it’s not really a very integrous behaviour to go to a meditration retreat with the agends of getting laid. On the other hand, going to too shallow spiritual events, and you’ll have the same issue: superficial commercial people dressed in spirituality!

Yup, I had only like 300-400 posts when I became a mod. Quality and maturity are what matters here, of course!

The green looks good on you guys! Welcome to the team

@Emerald You talk like it’s so easy to build a social life as an average guy without natural social skills. And there’s a ton of them out there.

Yep, it comes down to this. Well articulated!

At the end of the day guys, we all have a deep bias towards survival of our own human body and mind. Each day we consume countless other life forms selfishly in order to maintain our own form. And that is healthy. But how truthful?

@Jayson G Sex is like the most clear example of them all.

I think the biggest thing holding me back from wanting children right now is my highly ambitious self. Having children holds me back a lot from that. Also, after a long work day, I don’t think I’d want to go home to young energetic children, as I’d want to relax. On the other hand, coming home to a mature romantic partner sounds nice and relaxing.

You misunderstood him.

Yes, also in 5 minutes you should be able to get her attracted to you and hooked. If it doesn’t happen in 5 minutes, bounce.

In my early to mid twenties, and my peak hippie stage, I loved the idea. Right now as I have much more important stuff to do, and to invest energy and time into - meeting ton of women, having a roster of girls and spinning them does feel like a huge waste of time and energy. And yes, juvenile is a very good word to describe the feeling. Having a loving relationship with a mature woman you are relatively compatible with, is better almost in every possible way you can think of.

Immediate action, however small, is key. Talk to everyone and get in a social vibe, especially as a beginner.

Perhaps, similarly to how some people are spiritually very gifted / natural. Ironically they are not necessarily even conscious of how conscious they are, compared to someone who had to put more effort to become as conscious

That’s why it’s called game! You gotta have a PLAY awakening to participate

Healthy stage orange sales. This is a serious path to break out of proverty, without having to build a whole business and wear all the hats in the beginning. Josh Lyons combines self-actualization and spiriuality & inner work with sales. He uses sales to self-actualize, similarly to how Owen Cook uses socializing to self-actualize. Obviously within the boundaries of healthy orange. But if you want a real way of making great money, this is one of the best ways without going toxic orange. Josh Lyons has low views, due to his mature approach to sales: having an honest, non-scripted, deep dive conversation with the prospect, rather than focusing on handling the objections at the end. The way he sells is like having a hard heart-to-heart talk with a friend & getting them to open up (massive trust) and find alignment with the product, thus there are no objections at the end. He uses powerful questions (like in a coaching session) to get the prospect to answer their own objections in the discovery phase (beginning), and so, sell themselves. It’s a totally new and fresh way of selling in the social media space, contrary to all the sales gurus out there who promotes high pressure and toxic stuff. Obviously, keep in mind that orange is still orange. Sales is still sales. Don’t expect this to be some advance level spirituality and actualizing stuff. But if you have unfinished business in orange, Josh’s way of doing sales is as healthy of a sales path as it gets there. Oh, and he used to lead Alex Hormozi’s Gym Launch sales team. Alex is a well known business influencer in the space, and I regard him as healthy orange too.

I had a hippie phase, where I truly believed most people can become so attractive with health protocols, deep inner & spiritual work, exercising and taking good care of their looks - that we could have a giant orgy and free sex everywhere, with everyone due to natural attraction with each other & free love. I am not even kidding. It was a wild naive phase in my life. What drives me is harmony between people, that’s core to my personality type. In my more immature years, my biggest dream and delusion was to raise humanity’s consciousness level (in my lifetime) to the point we could live and love each other in harmony. Oh boy, the shattering of that dream throughout the years has been brutal. Makes me feel like I was born 500 years too early. Hopefully in the future that’s possible. It is a beautiful vision.

Probably the most important keyword in this section that I forgot to add is: natural Leadership. I have always found it easy to lead. I have always usually been the one leading my social circles & work environments (even when I wasn't in a manager position lol). I was also always made the captain in my soccer teams growing up. And to this day, I am usually the one leading the football teams & games (hobby, for fun) where we play together with my friends. I remember in my early 20s, I was always buzzled as to why it is so hard for other football friends to take the charge, and why do I always have to step in to take the charge? To add to the fuel, Finnish men and people in generally are shy and withdrawn people. I am one of those leadership types that don’t mind stepping down to let someone else lead, and oftentimes even prefer to just relax back and enjoy the ride. But I just often find myself in situations where I have to step in, or everything goes to chaos. I wonder how much I would like to lead and how much I would like to just relax and enjoy the ride, if the world had way more leadership types? To this I have to add natural high libido as hell. To the point where I am seriously considering not being in a monogamous relationship again until I get older and my libido goes down or unless I find a great woman with exceptionally high libido (yay, something about the original conversation of the thread ). - - - Anyways, sorry for moving the conversation away from the original conversation of the thread. Sharing all these was just to confirm the above conversation about naturalness of things to begin with, like strenght of character + share more about me to ya’ll + for me to articulate things for myself. Please feel free to move the conversation back to its originality.

I have only recently in the past couple of years really realized a few natural things about me that I thought were developed from scratch with hard work: 1. Natural ambition 2. Natural visionary 3. Natural strenght of character (I am ENFJ 8w3, which gives a ton of strenght, ambition & seriousness to the otherwise very warm and easy-going ENFJ) 4. Natural social, people, & communication skills, & charisma and emotional intelligence. Looks also mostly due to my genes, rather than ”looksmaxing” & ”everyone can be as good looking if they just want to” 5. Natural care for Truth & Spirituality 6. Naturally good with sports, body movements, and rythms like dancing & football (soccer) And more.. 7. Oh, and since there was a thread about this the other day, I am also naturally very high in energy, and healthy. These are things that were natural to me all along, and hence it was natural for me to care about all of them + put a ton of work into cultivating them even further.

”I suggest contemplating” Proceeds to ”plug the position into any advanced AI and watch what happens”.