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In spirituality, it suggests that survival as a biological organism is opposing to actual Truth. Since the system of nature is designed such so that the members within it, such as animals, need to eat each other in order to survive, humans essentially need to do the same. So if I am a surviving human and prolong my human existence, then am I violating spiritual principles and am I going against Truth? And what is the point of God and the Universe suggesting that love and selflessness are the absolute Truth, but also enabling a system that forces us to oppose the Truth in order to survive in it?

Beautiful. I'm adding this to my file of quotes.

I have been engaging in spiritual teachings and practices. But questions would run through my head in my daily life now as I seek answers based on readings and videos. Is spiritual pursuit and enlightenment from thousands of years ago until now just a coping mechanism because we are still rather undeveloped? Because survival was so harsh and brutal (and still is) that some (monks, yogis, etc.) would need to forego it all and meditate until we "trick our brains" into thinking that we don't want anything anymore? And that there is "God's Love" altogether? As the world becomes more scientifically advanced, quality of life increases, and we become so good at survival, will we look back at ourselves as a species and think that spirituality was all just a cope for a time when we just weren't smart enough in the material world? Let's say humanity actualizes its potential in the physical world. We are rocketing from one planet to the next. We have infinite resources. Nobody is poor or struggling. No wars or poverty. Our bodies and minds merge perfectly with technology (the singularity). Physical immortality and perfection. We can get everything we want at a whim. How would that satisfaction compare to "enlightenment"? Because I remember when a few years ago, I had some money and backpacked three exotic countries in 4 months straight, riding a motorbike, climbing volcanoes, scuba diving, meeting beautiful people of different cultures. I was very happy. Conditionally happy, but I felt bliss from beginning to end for the most part. So if we can multiply that ability to the infinite times, what's the point of traditional "enlightenment?" There's this war in my mind between human/scientific advancement and spirituality. I'm looking for answers, but in the end, I know there's just one ultimate Truth.

@Someone here I do. Just started out at 20 minutes a day going for I think two weeks now.

How do you guys detach from life purpose while striving for it? It can be tricky to develop both spiritual and life purpose paths. So much of the motivation to self-actualize comes from the outcome and material desires. How do we get better at putting our consciousness more consistently at a point so that we are just doing it as if we have nothing to lose, for service to the world, or just for "play".

@puporing @Carl-Richard Sure seems like it. I have been struggling with this so hard because my whole life I have been trying to incorporate this connection into a job, and have been chasing this feeling the whole time. Now I realize, maybe don't chase it anymore, but instead meditate and connect with this divinity in the present moment without physically doing it (eg: traveling to an exotic country, admiring mountains)

What does it mean to be intuitively spiritual and high consciousness? I am an INFP (idealist / healer). I am sensitive and intuitively can read low-consciousness from a mile away (deceit, corruption, meaningless jobs, materialism, petty human bullshit, etc.). Matrix shit. I am drawn to nature, divinity, play piano, have traveled to the Himalayas, and photographed it. I never knew why I was such a free spirit that was so creative and attracted to the divine, but I'm starting to understand it a bit more now. The understanding is: the whole time I was connecting with God. I unconsciously was playing piano, traveling, and doing photography of the Milky Way to connect with God. But in the more advanced and metaphysical sense, what does this mean? What does this mean in the eyes of God (God realization)? Why do I feel this intrinsic divine Love in my heart more than the average person?

- Me personally, I'm starting out to meditate for 20 minutes per day (as suggested by Leo). I wrote down the first day I started and will add 1 extra minute every two weeks. No days off. That means in less than 2 years, I will hit one hour per day. I use meditation as a first door to everything else. - You can read a book or two from Leo's booklist in his Spirituality section. - Practicing yoga every night guided by the book "A Systematic Course in the Ancient Tantric Techniques of Yoga and Kriya" by Saraswati. (Or you can use one of the ones mentioned in Leo's booklist) - (can also watch a spiritual video from Leo every week or two and make notes of it) Writing this post just made me realize how much Leo's work is a part of me now. Damn it lol.

@Mulky I have not because I highly struggle in the practical side of things.

"Life is not a school. No. We are not here to learn lessons. Why are we here? To remember and re-create, Who You Are. Life is an opportunity for you to know experientially what you already know conceptually. You need learn nothing to do this. You need merely remember what you already know, and act on it." "The soul, your soul, knows all there is to know all the time. There's nothing hidden to it, nothing unknown. Yet knowing is not enough. The soul seeks to experience." "In the beginning, that which Is is all there was, and there was nothing else. Yet All That Is could not know itself, because All That Is is all there was, and there was nothing else. And so, All That Is, was not. For in the absence of something else, All That Is, is not. This is the great Is/Not to which mystics have referred from the beginning of time. Now All That Is knew it was all there was - but this was not enough, for it could only know its utter magnificence conceptually, not experientially. Yet the experience of itself is that for which it longed, for it wanted to know what it felt like to be so magnificent. Still, this was impossible, because the term "magnificent" is a relative term. All That Is could not know what it felt like to be magnificent unless that which is not showed up. In the absence of that which is not, that which IS, is not." 1. All the is-is not, am-am nots is really throwing me off. Can anyone try simplifying? 2. When the book is talking about the soul, does it mean that when we are feeling something in our soul, that it's basically the soul of God talking, and God connecting with itself, aligning with itself, admiring itself? So that when I play a musical instrument and feel it in my soul, that it is basically God connecting with God?

@aurum I think I kind of get it. So the illusion of the matrix, separation, pain, and suffering is kind of a test for us to strip through to see the Truth of Love?

I second this thread / topic. Will take note of the mentioned books, but also looking for some meat.

Hey guys. Just a quick question: If I were to learn about what chakras are and how to balance them as an absolute beginner, what would be the best book(s) as an introduction to them? There are too many choices on Amazon.

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We established that the truth of reality and the universe is love and selflessness. We can see that the formula of selfishness does not work in human interaction. When we are selfish, we repel things and when we are selfless, we attract fruits. We established that selfishness is breaking out of metaphysical love. Yet in nature, there is plenty of selfishness. As demonstrated in competition and conflicts in the animal kingdom (for mating, eating, surviving), and even amongst tree roots fighting with each other in Leo’s video explaining conflicts. So how do we explain animals and plants “breaking out of metaphysical love” when they are acting selfishly for their own interests?

@Someone here That was great. Thank you for sharing the meditation. Don't worry about the haters and keep supporting each other.

Anybody else think it would be a good idea if Leo could add some visuals or graphics to explain his more advanced and abstract concepts on reality, God, the Universe? Especially for his shorter Actualized Clips. While listening to something such as his take on "division and union", I couldn't help but to think how it would improve the overall experience if there were cool visuals that went along with it. Kind of like how some people on Youtube have added animations to Alan Watt's short takes. @Leo Gura Have you ever considered this? Would be super cool seeing spiritual concepts visually explained. I don't think it's been done.

Yes until it becomes boring. You beat the boss, you sit on the satisfaction for a bit, and then you play a new game all over again.

Fair enough for now. Awesome.

@Leo Gura So why am I dreaming this dream? Why did I decide to come down here to play this game when I was already in perfect Nirvana? Why would a boy being born in the American projects or a war-torn country dream this dream when he was already basking in Infinite Love? If there is no difference between anything, why would some spirits choose to dream in poverty and some dream to be Warren Buffet's kids? Why choose to dream in the Paleolithic era where you can be eaten by a pack of hyenas rather than Year 4000 where you can actualize your creativity and explore the cosmos? Why choose a shitty dream? Haha. Like if there is no difference, then why is there the illusion of a difference in the first place?

This is great, but if such is the case: 1. How do we know that us humans aren't animals that are deluding ourselves into thinking that Love is the absolute Truth, instead of selfishness and competition to be the absolute reality in a more physical / material / scientific paradigm? 2. If Love is the absolute truth of reality, what is the end game of the Universe and God? What is the ultimate purpose of absolute Love / God breaking off into an inferior, fragmented, form-version, selfish reality, only to "self-realize" and mend itself back into union with its perfect Loving Self, a process filled with deep pain and suffering?