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Not interested. My results are good enough for me. You don't know my view. You actually misunderstand it. Lol. Are you done with your assumptions?

That's 4 in several billions.

Like you could possibly know that. For you, maybe 😂

That's not engaging in good faith. I told the truth, and you didn't believe me. Nothing I say matters at this point. Alright. That's the only valid piece of evidence for me. If you don't have it, I have no interest in reading studies. That's the standard you asked for. Repeated bad faith. Repeated bad faith. I already explained why I brought up the cult possibility. It has nothing to do with the discussion itself I don't understand why you're so emotionally reactive. Like, relax a bit dude. It's just an online exchange with a stranger. That's fine. I never assumed anything. Never really thought about it. I just got bored. Is that so hard to believe?!

Doesn't sound like emotional mastery to me. Because it teaches women their rights and gives them worth. It's a necessary evil. Say what you will, but unless you provide examples of people who lived this way and died this way, none of it will matter. It's all just temporary/failed experiments. Don't let me stop you. Use your anger to prove me wrong as fuel and achieve your dreams. Experimenting is not happy ending.

This proves my point actually. I'm not saying monogamy is better. I'm saying monogamy, as it is, is hard enough and mostly failing. Polyamory only adds more hardships and complexity. So don't expect success. Go and fight feminism, and you may have a chance at your dream lifestyle, but maybe in a couple generations. It's not like I don't want polyamory, I do. But I live in reality, not in my imagination. And in reality, it doesn't work. Monogamy hardly works anymore.

All of these happened during Biden's term.

@LordFall This sounds less like AI and more like you 😂 People are experimenting with relationship dynamics. Doesn't mean they are finding happiness or success, let alone both. A truly happy and successful case of polyamory that doesn't end in conflict is less than 1 in a billion, if that. Doesn't matter though. Go and prove me wrong. Go find your harem of girls and make it work. I'm here, waiting.

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@LordFall Seems very AI. Even if true, it's super rare. Like less than 1 in a billion. Even if it happens, it won't likely continue or be easy as you're imagining. It's already super hard to establish stability between two people with different survival agendas. A third person would only make it more harder and complex. Social media personalities are not examples or proof of anything. They're motivated by clicks and likes and appearances, not by truth. I generally don't open IG links. I hate going from here to IG.

Because modern relationships are mostly a luxury, not a need. Women don't need a man anymore to survive. What do women want from a relationship? Sex, companionship, stability, status, social life, etc... They can get all those things from various sources. No special man holds anything special. In fact, for a woman to accept polyamorous man, she will have to sacrifice many of the things that she signed up in the relationship for. She will have to share resources with other women, and she won't have as much sex or companionship or stability, and her status and social life will be diminished because her family and close circle will judge her and look down on her for settling for less when she can have more with another man. Basically, any woman who'd accept such a dynamic is a desperate one who can't achieve better. She lacks better options, so she settles as an option. The truth is that no man is too precious/special for the woman to make this sacrifice. And women know that. At least, those who know their worth know that.

@Carl-Richard You're not going to guilt me into another round of discussion. The truth is that I lost interest and didn't even care to read through your last replies after the prior exchange and delay. I left because I think I've said what needed to be said and got bored honestly. Not because I'm indecisive or because you gave any concrete evidence or because I'm too closed-minded. You also shifted the argument multiple times. When I argue against the general case, you say forget the experiences and claims of others and focus on mine. And when I ask you specifically for a pre-recorded journal with timestamps, you give me studies and videos of others. That's dishonest and I don't like it. One last note, I think I read from you somewhere that you were once a cult member. I don't think it's unlikely that you're somehow repeating the same pattern here with the paranormal. Not that I know a particular cult or anything like that, but that you have the tendency to attach to some external worldview and make it your own. Non-mainstream hidden knowledge seems attractive to you for some reason. This isn't an ad hominem against your case, it's just an observation. Take it or leave it. Other than that, feel free to keep posting, it's your thread after all. Now, if you'll excuse me, I don't wish to derail the thread any longer. Keep your evidence coming in, but keep me out of it, cuz I won't be reading. Thank you.

@Miguel1 Oh, yes. The almighty mature men don't fantasize about any woman other than the goddess they worship. Only immature men have unholy sexual fantasies. It's getting old bro. This whole maturity thing.

Let's be honest. Every man fantasizes about polyamory. Not only we desire a variety of women. We fantasize about sex with multiple women at once. I think this is most men at least. Now, in reality, things are different. Monogamy is complex enough nowadays. Many men (of different levels and qualifications) buy into all sorts of ideologies and schemes just to get laid or have a girlfriend. Feminism made it hard enough for monogamy to work as it used to. I can't imagine a high quality woman who respects herself to accept polyamory, even if she's bisexual.

@Carl-Richard Hey, glad you're still alive. Unfortunately, I left the discussion. I'm just giving you a heads-up, so you don't waste your time responding to the rest of what I said, unless you feel like that's necessary. Either way, I'm not going to engage anymore. Take care.

Makes me think about existing in the first place. If we were nothing, how did we emerge?

This guy is married and a successful business owner.

Mind-fuck 🤯

Truth is ugly. Beautiful truth is crazy. Sane beautiful truth is impossible.

That's the crux of the issue. Most people can't be honest because they lack internal resourcefulness/abundance. They can't stand the thought of being alone. Some people compensate for this lack with external abundance. They don't learn to be more authentic; they learn to lie/hide better. They learn to protect themselves instead of accepting the pain. Either way, nothing on the inside changes, let alone gets resolved. They date and retire from dating as the same person that entered, often with even more defences and complexes than when they started; the same scared child, even more alone. I can see this most clearly in those who do pickup. The whole thing is often just a big defence mechanism against the truth they're afraid of facing.

Really honest, vulnerable relationship is tough. You have to admit things you never would otherwise. You have to actually expose the devil you are to the light and burn. It's hard and painful. But it's what happens when the relationship is right. It forces you to face your shadows directly and purifies you. But you need a perfect mirror of yourself to experience this kind of relationship, someone who can reflect back at you what you are afraid to look at.

A drug is something you use when you're ill in order to heal. Framing it as recreational just shows how delusional the idea is. It's like stabbing yourself with a scalpel for recreational purposes. The scalpel is not a toy, it has valid uses, just not in the way you're intending. Don't do it.

What do you do when you have free time? Do you engage in any hobbies after work? How often do you chill and relax? When was the last time you took a long vacation?

Yes. Female preferences are very malleable and negotiable in real life. Most women, especially the younger ones, don't have solid preferences for anything, especially when first meeting a guy. They're mostly just exploring and trying to have fun. So glad I've never downloaded a dating app in my life.

Lonely ❌ God ✅