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@zurew I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. And I would argue that it is mostly innocent confusion rather than intended obfuscation that's happening on the other side. And while I think you're absolutely right, and agree with the entirety of your line of reasoning, as it's absolutely sound and correct, I still feel like there's something missing there. I feel that you hold an intellectual space that is not particularly curious for all possibilities, without attaching to one particular possibility, which is good, but when everything is equally possible, such that it nullifies the essence of what each possibility might contain and bring about in actual experience through intuition, then something feels off for me. Notice that I'm not advocating for solipsism or otherwise any other particular view. Rather, I'm saying there is a deep value in entertaining each possibility on its own, even if it's not 100% logically consistent, and to be more frank and perhaps extreme, I would say even if it's not logically coherent at all. Are you okay with that level of extreme?

@zurew It is both right and wrong at the same time to hold the view you're holding. From a logical perspective, your questions are valid, yet from a non-logical, and more intuitive perspective, they are not. The ability to see this paradox and tightrope it is required here. From my understanding, it seems the others here don't see the logical perspective, or don't acknowledge its validity, and you're doing the same in the opposite way.

Well, have you considered that maybe you, right now, in the middle of what seems and surely feels like a crisis, are actually the most sane, right, and least deluded of all? Like, at least shouldn't that be the case given your intentions and sincerity and efforts? It's only fair. I mean maybe nobody really knows anything, and we're all just big pretenders, though admittedly some with bigger mouths than others. Maybe this state of seeming confusion that you're in, is what any honest person should be in. Well, let me tell you, that many people have been there. And as it turns out, it's just a phase, and about time until you come out from the other side. So don't worry or fret about it. Maybe it's not required to know. Like maybe all you need to do right now is to drop the desire to "know" and learn to live in peace and harmony with uncertainty, as if you even know what "knowledge" is or if it even exists. Maybe knowledge is the biggest delusion of all. And hey, maybe it's okay to live without knowing every little thing, or let's be extreme and say maybe it's perfectly okay to live without really "knowing" anything at all. Forget about this pretender species (homo sapiens) and look at everything else. Does a tree "know" anything? Does an ant "know" anything? I would go directly at the head of the snake and question knowledge itself. What is it? Like really what is it on the deepest existential level? Forget all that you have learnt, and start from scratch. The answer and cure is there. You can do it. Good luck!

@Exystem Amen brother. What a refreshing read after the 60 pages long abuse of natural intelligence. Humaneness is so subtle and unique, it cannot be replicated. And I fell in love as it shined through your well crafted post. Now that's what I call something else. Thank you.