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Yes, silence is the best music in the world. Or the pitter-patter of the rain or sounds of wind and thunder. What we call music is primitive in comparison. :)

Since you enjoy authority so much. Here's what the former chief scientist and vice president of Pfizer said about Covid vaccines, but I'm sure you're much more qualified to talk about it than him @Leo Gura And before you go all uppity about me spreading conspiracy theories, I fully acknowledge that a lot of what this dude has said has been invalidated, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't still have decades of experience and what he says shouldn't be thoroughly investigated. Have you investigated? Or have you just taken it on faith that they know what's good for you? See I don't buy that bullshit. And when you call your viewers stupid for questioning the system that is built on lies, then you lose respect very fast. What @BadHippie says may be a bit emotional but he's right. You seem to be suffering from an inflated ego whereby you think you know 100% of the truth. You make mistakes, we all do. Maybe I'm wrong for not trusting the vaccines, or maybe you're wrong about trusting them so blindly and lashing out at people for not sharing your worldview. Which is it? Only time will tell.

There's no goal to anything. All paths lead to the same place, the only difference is some paths make a joyful journey and some make a miserable journey. Spirituality is nothing other than finding that path that provides a joyful journey, that's all it is - everything else is the ego deluding itself endlessly.

As opposed to your terrible advice, which is "lol just take as much psychedelics as you possibly can"? I'm sure that won't cause any damage to a lot of people.

Neither does it make pro-vaxxers intelligent. Get off your high horse.

@Opo Intuition. and past experience. @Carl-Richard Your attempts at guilt-shaming won't work on me.

@Opo I don't trust it. Also - I don't think taking the vaccine invalidates hygienic protocols. Isn't the first thing they tell you that you still have to follow those regardless? I mean you could be fully immunized against it, but you can still spread it to someone else if not directly than indirectly through touching things and not disinfecting.

@Carl-Richard Yes, but consider that those people actually work with people all day long. I work from home a freelance programmer and barely have physical contact with anyone through the week. And vaccines aren't a full measure either, you can still get infected and have serious complications even after a vaccine. Look, I'm not anti-vaxx, I simply don't like being preached as to what I should or shouldn't take in my body. I don't tell anyone that they shouldn't get vaccinated, it's your choice. But I also expect people not to guilt shame me into taking a vaccine. If I had a different job, if I had a different lifestyle, if I was in a high risk group or was actively endangering someone, then perhaps I would reconsider. The way things stand, I'll take my chances with the virus. I understand your concerns but please don't over-generalize, not every person in the world is in close contact with 1000 people every day.

@Carl-Richard I do, and I wear a mask, I thoroughly disinfect my hands before and after I go into a store, I follow all hygienic protocols, including being mindful of what I touch, changing my clothes, taking a shower when I get home, disinfecting stuff I buy and avoiding crowded areas in general. I order online whenever I can and I've been living more or less like a hermit for the past few years just to avoid potentially getting infected and spreading the virus to anyone else. I'd never go into the store or meet anybody if I feel even a mild cough or any potential Covid symptom, I'm not an idiot like most people (who willingly do this, mind you). But even all this effort isn't enough for people like you, now you want to force a potentially hazardous substance into my body as well - well, this is where I draw the line. If you don't like it, that's not my problem.

@Animo I'll take my chances. I trust my immune system more than I trust medicinal science. Fundamentally it's a philosophical issue for me, I don't believe in man-made intervention especially with something like this virus which the vast majority of healthy people get over just fine. If it was a virus with 99.9% mortality you bet your ass I'd be taking the vaccine the first chance I got. With this virus, I personally know a 92 year old person in extremely shaky general health who got it twice and barely showed symptoms. I also know another 50-something year old guy who got vaccinated and then spent a week in the hospital due to an extreme reaction. @Carl-Richard So now you're equating simply doing nothing to actively spreading the virus? I live in quite an isolated place and I'm not very social these days. So who am I spreading it to exactly, my dog? You should try and parse your own false equivalencies.

@Seed I have personally "lost" at least 5 close friends to pharmaceuticals, they went from jovial, quirky, fun people to absolute shadows of themselves where their only mental mode is to drag themselves through life with 0 motivation for anything for years on end, all because they thought a pill is going to make them less depressed. They trusted the opinion of psychiatrists, which is something I would never in a thousand years do. I've lost a schoolmate to doctor's error. I've lost my dad who was my very best friend in the world partly due to continuous misdiagnosis. I have very little faith left in western medicine. I'll ask them for help when I break my leg but for most other things I'll do my own research. Blind trust in authority is the name of stupidity itself.

I can understand your point of view @Peter Miklis, and I understand that it's very easy to get very agitated when you see the anti-vax crowds seemingly work against any sort of progress. I have my own reasons for why I don't trust this vaccine, and I have a lot of trust issues when it comes to modern medicine.

Actual enlightenment makes psychedelics look like childrens toys.

You say this without a hint of irony meanwhile the society indoctrinates you to be as stupid, tame and programmed to be miserable 24/7 as possible.

Like I said, I've done "hundreds" of trips. I know what I'm talking about, I'm very, very, very well aware of the depths of psyche psychedelics can reveal to you. And I'm not even for one second minimizing the profound and absolutely magical effects they produce. I've experienced all that, it especially helped me early on to basically confirm what I was reading about. It's hard to believe all the higher spiritual truths if you've been indoctrinated into the western civilization and have a materialistic and narrow worldview. It's very hard to accept something like "universal love", or "incomprehensible truth", or even something semi-trivial like telepathy and magical powers. It's hard to accept that through words alone, and in that regard psychedelics are marvelous tools, they will show you first hand exactly what all those mystics are talking about. What I __am__ claiming, however, is that past that, they become useless. Once you get the message that the world is a magical place, you don't need any more psychedelics any more than you need to watch Bugs Bunny cartoons 20 hours per day. It's a trip, it's a story, it's something to take in and enjoy. It is __not__ a source of spiritual wisdom, it will not grant you any insight that you won't forget immediately upon landing back on Earth, and it will never lead anywhere, which makes it a dead end. In the words of Yoga, it's a Siddhi catalyst, it produces magic, but Yogis will warn you over and over again that "if you get Siddhis, ignore them". And you should do the same with psychedelics. Take them, but don't abuse them. and don't get hooked to them. A medicine, not a diet.

I can't speak for him. Yeah, or maybe my answer shocked you to your core and now your ego is scrambling to pick up the pieces. If you think you're gonna get something from psychedelics because Leo says so, be my guest. Just don't be too surprised when you end up just as neurotic as you are right now. I already said that psychedelics are extremely useful for people who are too stuck in the material, egoic realm. Once you get past that initial bump, I claim they have no use. You are free to disagree, doesn't bother me one bit. We're all on our own paths.

Here it comes, predictably. Call me what you want but no one's forcing anything into my body that I don't willingly agree to. You can try to persuade me in a civil manner and I have no issues with that, but it's my freedom and my choice to refuse if I so choose.

Feynman is one of my favorite scientists, right up there with the other greats.

Sure, however I'm free to be stupid.

So much for freedom and liberty. Accusing others of being paranoid yet you're the ones trying to force others into taking action because of your own paranoia. The day they try to force this shit on me is the day I buy a shotgun.

There's nothing serious about life. If you think spirituality is supposed to be serious, then you've started off on the wrong foot to begin with, and have more to learn. Think of it like this, psychedelics are simply a way of amplifying your consciousness. If that consciousness is deluded, incoherent and unharmonious to begin with, then your trip will reflect that exact state, you won't get anything from it. And if your consciousness is already harmonious and filled with universal love, then why do you need psychedelics? To feel even more love? How much love are you capable of feeling before it tears you apart? You really think psychedelics are going to help you there? And look - I'm not making any claims, you do you. I'm simply stating that according to my own understanding and my own direct experience, psychedelics are simply a magical light show that you can partake in, they are powerful tools indeed but they will not give you access to spiritual power and they will not unlock any spiritual goodies, that's all ego stuff. If you want truth, drop desire.

Yes, he's right and Leo's wrong. Psychedelics are a dead end, they lead nowhere. Their only use is to soften individuals and allow them to experience magic first hand, past that they are absolutely useless and you won't get any wisdom from them, ever, you'll just get a case of inflation (which Alan Watts also pointed out). Not that I think Leo isn't wise in many other areas and spreads the right message. But I disagree with him that psychedelics are the ultimate tool, I've tried extremely potent psychedelics and went through it all, and I can easily claim I've had far more profound experiences in deep meditation. With meditation you're using your own power, with psychedelics it's borrowed power. And that which is borrowed has to be returned. You'll never get it through psychedelics, you'll just get more and more confused until you go mad altogether. Once you get the message, the proper thing is indeed, to hang up the phone.

@Seed Yeah good luck with that, you're just gonna be labeled a conspiracy theorist and an antivaxxer anyway. I've been labeled both multiple times simply for stating my own personal preference in the matter, which is that I will not be getting the vaccine. I immediately lose a lot of respect for anyone that tries to forcefully coerce me to change this opinion, as if their judgment is somehow better than mine. I have 0 problems with people choosing to take the vaccine, but I have an enormous problem with people trying to shame others into a sense of guilt because they decide that they won't take it. Sorry Leo but this is the stupidest thing I ever heard you say. So when a psychiatrist tells me to load my body full of Xanax and go through years of unimaginable pain and suffering I should just accept that too because "it's not my body" anyway? Or when a woman wants to get abortion and she's not allowed to, it's fine because it's not her body anyway, right? Do some introspection on this one because what you just said is very dumb. Sometimes you need the high perspective but sometimes you need the down to Earth, grounded perspective. And this falls into the latter category. My body is my choice and if the government interferes with that then I'll fight to my dying breath to maintain that essential right. If it was black death then you'd have everyone choosing to take the vaccine because the potential benefits would far outweigh the risks, which is not at all the case with Covid where you have the majority of the population survive the infection just fine. You're comparing a grenade to an atomic bomb here.

Fewer things I put into my body the better. I feel like the whole world has gone nuts with this. It should be my and my choice alone whether or not I decide to put something in my body, and this whole "vaccine shaming", even from Leo, is disgusting. Take the vaccine if you want to, just don't moralize to me about what I should or shouldn't do. Here's almost my exact thoughts on this, he sums it up extremely well:

It's not.