WelcometoReality

Ok that's good. Have you tried the work? https://thework.com/instruction-the-work-byron-katie/

Sorry for jumping into the discussion but I just want to say that transcending and detaching won't solve the issues your facing. The answer is rather going into the thoughts and feelings and dissolve them from the inside.

That's it right? Ego can't love but it likes the idea of love. Real love dissolves the ego.

Thanks, I loved it to. <3

Just words right?

You see that this nothing is aware perhaps there are other aspects to it? If you don't want to explore that's fine. I was only trying to help. Enjoy your realization

Deflection

I never experienced that but everyones awakening is unique I guess.

Just see for yourself.

Yeah that seeking energy stops when one awakens. Yeah, too late for that. Are there any other qualities? You don't have to answer me, but explore for yourself.

Yeah that transition can be quite painful. It's a mourning period before you can fully let it go.

Yes no word for it. Word can at best point to it but never be it, that's right. Don't feel the need to try to explain it to me. It's apparent you've had a deep realization of that which has no name. You see that's one of the qualities I'm speaking of. It's aware. ? Ok I've never that type of glimpse myself. ?

I'm saying it's a thought because you don't know if it will come back or not. This which you have discovered will deepen into unknowing. It always feel complete because that is it's nature. Still it deepens and you can't imagine how it will.

I know you are. What you call "you" I call presence or aliveness but go for the word that suits you best. I would say it's not nothing but close. It can't be seen so nothing, it's definetly not something, but it has qualities. These qualities can be subtle in the beginning. Continue to explore. ?

Then it should make perfect sense that I'm imagining to be a separate self that got ripped off from Oneness.

That's not from the perspective of THE ONE though.

Hey I was promised bliss and eternal happiness not fear and death. I got ripped off.....

Scary indeed. It always come when you least expect it.

I agree that the sense of self is more than just thoughts. That's what I've said in @james123 thread all along. But is there an entity that dies? In that case where is it? I would say that it's more a form of energy that ceases to exist.

@Javfly33 Nothing actually dies since what you think you are is only what you think you are.

Thought defines and the one that is the owner of thoughts is another thought which is ego. What 'I' mean with Experience is sight, sound, feel, taste, smell, and thought. Not the words but what they point to. Does this nothing have any qualities? Yes, no one within the body, and what is the body what does it consist of? Yes no one becomes enlightened. James is a thought that comes and goes. Can a thought die? "Won't be back" is a thought.

Ego is what we define it to be. Words have no meaning until we give them meaning. If you want to define ego as that you do that. And I agree btw. ? Yes experiences might differ but the absolute is the same. ?<3

Yeah you are totally right. Thanks for pointing it out. ?

Yeah if you don't want to talk in context that's fine with me. ? No words are true so If you really want to push it to the limit you can stop talking altogether. ??

If you are to express it to others try to do so consciously. Preferably without screaming. Journal about your anger helped me. And dig deep to where the anger comes from. Usually a held belief about how others should behave (or you).