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@The Buddha I agree with what mooji said in the video. What do you mean with this game? The ego arises but is seen for what it is. There is no identification with it so it falls away. It's about seeing the egoic movement. Of course the identification to ego might still happen like Mooji said it's not a problem. It's about closing the gap between the identification to it and the seeing and discarding it. The lesser the gap between identification and seeing is the less ego tends to arise. No problem for the liberated being since the gap is so small it is as if the was no ego.

No there isn't a way to work through it. It's a complete settling into it.

@The Buddha I mostly agree with what your saying. I do however use different terminology than you. The way I define suffering is believing your thoughts. That is basically what suffering is. An enlightened being that which you call guru I presume will still experience bodily pleasure and pain. He/she will still have a preference to experience pleasure than pain but he/she will not experience suffering which is the thought about the pain. If I understand you correctly, that which I call preference you call ego. I however use ego in a different way. Ego to me is that which avoid pain and seek pleasure. Like you said: Is that ego you mean? Because you also wrote this: You seem to say that the guru both has and hasn't got ego but maybe I'm misunderstanding you, can you please clarify what you mean?

It's not bad. It's only the way that ego works.

If you are constantly trying to be in the bliss or trying to get back into bliss then that's a trap because it's the ego chasing feeling good. The way out of it is seeing it for what it is and let it go. I wouldn't worry about it though.

Only if you get stuck there.

An example from my own experience would be that I was a calm guy, I never got angry at anything. That was what I got told from a young age and that had become part of my identity. When an awakening happened this identity dissolved and after a blissful tranquil period there was alot of anger that came up. The first reaction was that there was something wrong. Awakening should be about love and unity, right? So I started seeking love and unity and suppress the anger. After another awakening the anger started to come up again. This time I could see what was going on. I stopped suppressing the feeling of anger and instead started investigating it. What I discovered was that the negative emotions are the expression of beliefs. The anger came up because I believed that things were the way it shouldn't. I might get angry at my child because she SHOULD listen to me. Because I'm her father so I decide what she SHOULD and SHOULDN'T do. When I then inquired and saw the underlying belief the anger lost it's momentum. Check out Byron Katies the work for some more guidance into inquiry into beliefs. So there is ego on the level of identity on top of the level of beliefs which are tightly fixed to emotion.

@roopepa I really liked the books. One of my favorite teachers for sure. @tatsumaru Yeah a Logical conclusion isn't enough you also need to align yourself to truth and that is removing the false. Which he also talks alot about in his books.

@math159w It's better to focus on one or the other imo. Because somewhere along your enlightenment journey you might find yourself in a place where it is impossible to push yourself to do anything. Maybe the energy you put in to creating a life purpose just falls away and that would be a waste. If your top priority is enlightenment then focus on that and then if you feel the need to find a life purpose you can do it.

@Vision During retreats or any type of prolonged consciousness work the top layer of the egoic self tends to dissolve and that brings to the surface a lower level of self. That might feel like a regression because the lower level often involve strong negative emotions such as anger or fear. But it is a progression. It is important to let that lower level emerge and inquire what beliefs are being held at that level. That is how we progress. What can happen is that we see the as regression and bypass and surpress them because we essentially see them as wrong. And then we are back to square one with a higher level of ego that is surpressing the lower one. I know this wasn't your question. It's just a common trap that I wanted to point out.

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Isn't fear a basic human/animal emotion? It seems like a great incentive to take action. The ego would be the resistance to or grasp of feelings. It grasps that which feels good and resists that which feel bad. Resisting/avoiding fear and grasping/seeking bliss as an example.

@Gianna Could be a nutritional problem. What does your diet look like?

@Holygrail it's survival for the sake of survival. That is its highest agenda because it is the survival program itself.

@strwbrycough yes, stream-entry and up, duration about 4 years. A range of mindfulness practices, lately it's been "noting gones" that has seemed effective.

I remember when I had this realization I was staring at a tree and realized it wasn't a tree it just was. No words are true. ?

@Kalki Avatar If you just put the lid on but it's still boiling it tends to explode at some point. ? You need to investigate why it's boiling. What "bs" triggers you? What thoughts are believed. You can use a tool like Byron Katies the work to bring beliefs to the surface. http://thework.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/English_LB.pdf

The heart wants what the heart wants.

It seems to be an experiencer and something experienced until it doesn't. Then it will be experience experiencing itself or however you want to put it.

@Brandon L I usually reincarnate every morning but not before I have a cup of coffee. ?

@Mu_ Thx for the video. A nice example one could use when trying to explain this wishy-washy non duality stuff to someone who has a scientific mindset.

@meta_male I did experience the exhaustion and I think that it's a good indicator that it's going in the "right" direction.

Me neither but I think we manage to put our points across just fine. ??

Please do. I'd love to read about it. ? No-thingness. ?

Ok, where are you now on tye journey if I may ask?