Water by the River

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  1. Matter is an arising/manifestation in Infinite Consciousness. It is not something external/out there indepdendly existing from Consciousness. Yes, lets do agree to disagree. Just out of curiosity, because of your questions/implications: Am I a nonplayer character in your perspective? yes or no? Like do I feel pain if you pinch me? Yes or no? Please no evasive answer, a clear yes or no. Thanks.
  2. The outer part of their node in Indras Net (their body) is what is visible in the visual field. The "Interiority" or their Awareness/Consciousness is also directly realized. As yourself. But your True Self, totally empty Impersonal Awareness. What you think what you are as separate self is obviously not compatible with Absolute Impersonal Pure Awareness, since its "loaded" with identities/properties/I-thoughts and so on. But the True Impersonal Pure Awareness in which this all arises is the same in other beings as in you. That is why its so important getting to such impersonal Pure Awareness States, because only in these empty/impersonal Pure Awareness states do nondual/Unity states arise and develop without psychedelics. And only in these can the Absolute Nondual Reality be realized. Every other not impersonal empty Pure Awareness state covers the inherent True Nature with clouds of illusion covering it. But that must be realized, there is no shortcut describing that fully with words/concepts. The second part is a good question: You are not aware of all perspectives manifesting right now. Do you know what you did exactly one year ago? I don't. So we admit forgetting in time. The challenging part is only admitting that forgetting other perspectives in space is also possible. That is why the vision of Leavitt is so helpful to understand how Reality/True You manages to do that. And the really interesting part is that he had non-euclidian space (which can hold infinite perspectives) in that vision. When the full nondual realization is in place it is directly realized and clear anyway. But until then the vision of Leavitt can help keeping oneself open that all others beings are exactly NOT Non-Player-Characters, but YOU. It quiets these doubt-arising about how all beings can be you, lets you rest in Impersonal Pure Awareness, and when these states ripen to nondual states of Pure Impersonal Awareness/boundless nondual Totality, then in these states true realization can happen. The picture of Leavitt and all these concepts alone, proove nothing of that.
  3. So that means you are the only one or only perspective, and all others are just NPCs in your dream if you think there is no mindstream that holds the pain of the pinching then. So that I must assume is the outcome of Leos Solipsism teachings. All "others" on the forum who read this can make up their own mind about if you are the only perspective perceiving anything. The funny thing about the Solipsist is: Everybody else hearing the Solipsist knows the guy is wrong.
  4. Not like the vision shown in that picture. But with direct nondual realization, yes. It is clear. The same Pure Impersonal Awareness/I-Am-ness that I know myself to be is in all beings, and in every arising/manifestation I see. That is not a concept, but a direct realization/experience. It is directly becoming consciousness of that. It is impossible to carry that fully in words. When the personal self is gone, what remains is Impersonal Pure Awareness. And that realizes itself to be in all beings, all things, each and every realm, infinite, limitless. That is the true core of all beings, below their arising clouding/illusion of their separate-self arisings. Since there is, was, and ever will be ONLY that. And with all these claims about metaphysical love here in this threat: THAT is the source of love. There literally IS NO OTHER, and never can be. Never was. There is only the illusion of anything separate/other. You can't have Full Realization of the nature of Reality (and ones true self) if one doesn't have that. Because that would be an "other". That breaks any nondual state. That comes btw. not as "facet" of Awakening, but naturally with fully waking up. How could one wake up if there is still another person/being? There is only one suchness/"substance" of Reality, and that is the True You.
  5. That is a pointer to the Absolute Leavitt uses. Nothing is not a bad pointer for the infinite/empty aspect, the Unmanifested Side of Infinite Consciousness. Better is Nothingness, because its harder to imagine some object with that, and be it just emptiness silence. And raging refers to the Manifested Side of Arisings, which is a wild divine dance of manifestation/arising. If you want to understand the pointers given by Leavitt and how to interpret them, what he means by them, please feel free to read the book. And if you prefer, we can also use the clap of the one hand, Raspberry, or just silence. I am pretty flexible on that. The signifier (word) doesn't count as much as the referent (Realization of the Absolute). And if the Referent is realized/known, then pointers work. And if not, then not.
  6. I assumed that. You get the smile anyway. quote from:
  7. The "people" have the exact same Pure Impersonal Consciousnes/Awareness as their essence as "you" and "I". That is an obvious fact once you realize your own True Being. There is only That Infinite Reality/Consciousness. You see and realize your own Impersonal Pure Being in them also. That is the meaning of True Nonduality. That is the source of love. For the other "people": Notice the non-euclidian (infinite) space in the vision below. And now just forget all the other perspectives (forgetting not in time, but in space so to say). That is how you splice up Infinite Consciousness, and forget that YOU are all other beings/persepctives. The people/beings are just perspectives in Indras Great Net, reflecting each other, and that Impersonal Pure Infinite Consciousness/Awareness is the True You. Every "other" appeance (of the world, such as a tree) you see as as its essence THAT Infinite Pure Impersonal Consciousness in a nondual way. That is what becomes totally obvious with Full Enlightenment. There is only That/You. "You do agree that people have no POV just like in your dreams right ?" That is exactly the pretty nuts wrong interpretation of Solipsism. Why do you even talk to "others" if you hold that as true? Pretty unnecessary, isn't it? And space and time are of course imaginary. But one more thing: If all is imaginary, everything is just as real as anything else. Because if there is only imagination, there are no degrees of "real". Including that sentence and this insight.
  8. When you explain the concept of Solipsism to someone not fully enlightened, they will (and only can) misunderstand it in way that makes it untrue. Because they are refering it to their highest self-image they have of themself, and that is not the Absolute (else they would be fully enlightened). And when its not refered to a realized/experienced Absolute but to something arising in that (separate-self-Gestalt/Ego, Unity-state, whatever), it is just not true/the case.
  9. Today is really compliment-day. So I am not even asking for reasons/arguments beyond "its just like that".
  10. On an Absolute Level, yes. But in my opinion pushing that concept is not helpful because it will just lead to ego=God inflation on the way up to the mountain summit. On the way up the mountain one wants to transcend the ego/separate-self (aka cut each and any arising constituting the separate-self off before it elaborates/fully rises in Awareness). Inflating the ego/separate-self and its narcissism is the opposite of that. That just stops the ascend, or generating Awakened Nondual States. And on the mountain summit its obvious anyway. One doesn't need this concept on the path up the summit in any way, as all meditation system align on.
  11. Here he is referring not to Leo/gross level of reality (this world), but to higher subtle/lower causal states where manifestation works like that. From the perspective of Reality/"God", if one is inclined to call it that) it works indeed like that. And as Leo also already found out, it doesn't work on the Leo-Level of Indras Net like that, or else the million dollar would already be on the bank-account. Or why the camera didn't capture the Alien: Because the totality of Indras Net overpowers with its will/manifestation/imagination-process the will of the little Leo-Node in it. When one becomes (Unity-state) the whole net of Indra, of course one wants exactly what Indras Net (the manifested Totality of Infinite Consciousness) wants at this moment: This world manifested/imagined exactly as it is(!), with strigent laws of manifestation (physical, biological, psychological, spiritual/Karma and so on) with no million dollar on the bank account by wishful thinking. And if one would still want the million dollars (egoic arising), one wouldn't be in a Unity State with Indras Net! It is just one huge assumption that these insights and higher subtle/lower causal states (Union with the Totality of Indras Net) can not be had on the meditation/mystic path. Or in a more pure/impersonal way on the psychedelic path when combining it with more ego/separate-self transcendence/meditation. Why? Because Absolute Reality is IMPERSONAL, or in other words PURE Infinite Consciousness/Awareness. It is these ego/separate-self arisings/filters/lensen that kill the awakened nondual state in normal sobre-ego-state, and it is these filters/ego-lenses that get mostly lifted (not totally) in the psychedelic state, and on top one gets the nondual infinite experiences/states, and many Awakenings n+1 of all different kinds. All disfigured and partly misinterpreted by these last remainings lensens/filters of ego/separate-self in the psychedelic experience. All of that also has the hallmark of confusing remaining separate-self/ego remains/lenses with Impersonal Pure Consciousness/Reality itself (the higher subtle, lower causal levels (Indras Net) and Impersonal Infinite Consciousness itself). Why? Because with psychedelics one gets these states "for free" without paying the "normal" price of ego-transcendence before. So of course one perceives all of these states through the lenses of the not completly transcended ego. And one doesn't even "see" or realize this lense of perception, because one is still identified with it, sees "through" it. Because if one would be aware of that, it would be already gone&transcended. And that is why Leo totally sincerly makes the claims he does. He can't see the lenses that block nondual awakened states sobre, and he can't see these lenses through which he interprets all of these state-experiences and Awakenings. And that then results in the Infinity of Gods Videos, which sould have better been called an Infinity of God-Egos. The last ego/separate-self mechanisms/lenses/filters are extremely subtle and hard to spot. Very subtle arisings that are formless (not coarse thoughts or feelings) and create the illusion that one is not already all of Reality. It takes a long time in certain awakened nondual states to get rid of these towards Pure Impersonal Infinite Nondual Consciousness. It is these subtle arisings that don't let one see (or bask in) the True Absolute State of Awakened Infinite Nondual Reality in the first place in sobre states. Selling (Impersonal/Pure Awareness) Water by the (Infinite Impersonal) River
  12. Perfectly. The Infinite Intelligence that constructed the former illusory separate-self now runs the show. The small separate self just gets out of the way. The Intelligence of Reality itself can run the show on a relative level way better when the filter/distoration of the separate-self-illusion (of being not the whole Enchilada but only a separate-self fragment in it) is gone. At least my experience. Besides, one gets for the first time a real shot at cutting off the negative emotions that regularly arise as a necessary building block of any separate-self (to keep it busy chasing experiences to get good emotions to easy the suffering/bad emotions, aka as keeping the illusion going). Imagine you could just produce your own bliss by resting in a nondual impersonal uncontracted state of awakened awareness, and just let the relative self do its job/daily life without interfering? Runs by itself, way better than before. I believe it is way better to have ones relative life sorted out (as much as possible) before crossing over. The chance is high that crossing over will only happen when the relative stuff is more or less sorted out and handled. And the separate-self is not squeaking in suffering all the time because its lower levels of manifestation (emotional needs, safety needs, job, relationships and so on) are more or less sorted out. One tends to continue exactly as before on a relative level/habits, but the fear-driven motivations drop away. Imagine that you needed fear-driven emotions before to keep your relative life going, and not doing it out of self-actualization. Then there can be quite some havoc if the fear-based-motivations (like fear of loosing job or fear of being lonely) drop away. Or: The cave. Or Eckhart Tolles 2 years on a park bench. I prefer an integrated life. Not that Enlightenment needs it. After waking up from the dream, one can still have a lucid nightmare or a beautiful lucid dream.
  13. "General" Omniscience in knowing what the essence of everything, and what anything possible is and ever could be, yes. Knowing the gold of the ring,. Specific Omniscience in knowing everything thats going on in all perspectives of Indras Net, or knowing all rings: Even Leo said "genereal" Omniscience instead of specific omniscience. Leo never claimed omnipotence as Leo. Well, not yet, as far as I know. God/Reality/Absolute is omnipotent, not anyones relative self. God could be considered as the "sum total" of all beings/persepctives/nodes of Indras Net (the manifest side of Infinite Consciousness/Absolute) and its essential unchanging essence of Empty Impersonal Groundless Awareness (the unmanifest Side of Infinite Consciousness). But here we already are on slippery conceptual/duality terrain. No single node/perspective/being in that is omnipotent. Sure any being can (correctly) claim to be the Totality (which it is at its ESSENCE), but the standard move of declaring/confusing "Ego/separate self/node in Indras Net = God" and declaring that omniscient and omnipotent doesn't work. Or: Nietzsche: God is dead. God: Nietzsche is dead. That always ends in (solipsistic) Narcissism and suffering.
  14. Getting fully enlightened. Leos God-Realization, but on a sobre full-time basis. And without all these unnecssary concepts of AWAKENING n+1 on top. Just realizing and BEING Reality itself. See the link of the Supreme Source above (or below), which even Leo confirmed as God Realization in the post later. Although he probably regrets having done so in the mean-time. You know, ONLY AWAKE(TM) being on the planet. see this post: But maybe even God-Realization(TM) has been updated in the meantime... (Still) Selling (the same) Water by the River
  15. Necessary in a way that one would be pretty stupid or narrowminded/dogmatic to not use these psychedelics tools nowadays (with all we know, and with the lovely stuff pioneers like Shulgin developed). But not necessary in a way that can't be done without, because thousands of humans in history have done it without psychedelics. Potent tools, and nearly all potent tools have dangers attached to it, see my long post above. And the more potent the tool normally the more dangers coming along with it. And for the Buddhism-allergies of some participants of this forum ... (this comment is not directed to you Loveeee. Like the name btw ( : Crowley, Secret Drugs of Buddhism: Psychedelic Sacraments and the Origins of the Vajrayana Here we have in essence something quite similiar to the psychedelic path Buddhist style (although lots of meditation still involved, and also love&compassion&Boddhichitta teachings, which are nothing than a safe-guard along this dangerous path to not fall into ego-inflation, which is a no-go at the Gateless Gate). This psychedelic path was pushed in the Vajrayana movement mainly at the end of the first millenium CE in India by the so called Mahasiddhas which also pioneered Tantra. To free their minds, they essentially did everything that was forbidden purity-wise in the society of Brahmin-India of the time: practice in charnel-grounds all kinds of colourful stuff while tripping, transcending most of the current laws of society, and so on. A dangerous path, better not walked without a realized Guru, and in later forms of Vayrayana (like Tibetan Buddhism) moderated quite a lot (monasteries of tripping nuns & monks didn't work so well, bad PR and so on). And they have left pretty similiar descriptions of Alien Realms, like the Supreme Array Sutra. https://www.psychedelicsangha.org/paisley-gate/2019/5/8/the-supreme-array-scripture-a-psychedelic-stra-for-buddhist-psychonauts-pp3zz Or for God-Realization, the Supreme Source (although that is more Dzogchen, but written not much later than the events above) Yet, humanity has the tendency to reinvent the wheel, and beat its own hand while hammering it. Wer nicht von dreitausend Jahren Sich weiß Rechenschaft zu geben, Bleib im Dunkeln unerfahren, Mag von Tag zu Tage leben. Johann Wolfgang Goethe
  16. Due to the legal status of these things in this country here, and my professional licences, I have to leave you with the "guess" and no clear answer on this public forum here. But a nice, interesting and colourful shirt, isn't it?
  17. I wasn't specifically asked, but allow me this comment: BOTH, meditation and psychedelics, is probably the fastest path for most. But there are dangers, and an obvious danger ist downplaying the meditation-part, or getting ego=God delusion via psychedelics. Psychedelics give the nondual awakened states for free (and a lot of other stuff), without much emptyting out the separate-self/ego-mechanism towards the Impersonal/Pure Awareness side. And Reality/True Self is Pure Impersonal Awareness. With meditation, before one gets to nondual awake states, the separate-self is already emptied out ~95%+. One already is very(!) proficient cutting each and any thought/feeling arising of the separate self/ego, and any other concept/thought on top of that also. And the awakened states still get hijacked by the remaining 5% ("enlightened person"), but there is much less potential for ego=God inflation because there is less of it left in the first place than on the mainly psychedelic path.