Preetom

Wow. The bar has been raised so much.

When the I/Me is really gone once and for all, the perception that I/Me had, dissolves totally with it as well. One cannot withstand the absence of the other. For discussions sake, you could say there will still be 'thoughts' floating around without a subject. But actually thoughts are not seen/experienced as thoughts are conventionally experienced. In the technical term, everything becomes/is the Self.

@Toby I guess the best approach would be consulting a guru expert in this field personally. He/she could verify what is actually going on in your case.

Self Inquiry. Persistently separate the subject I-thought from all the objects of perception. Inevitably, the subject will collapse when isolated like this consistently. The objective perception will go along with it. This is how you get to live the truth of having no perception and a perceiver.

Where is Hellspeed when we need him? Can't he just travel through the 12th dimension and bring back Leo's soul or something?

all credit goes to @Rilles for making us bad

@Viking 1) When was the last time you ran as fast as you could and totally exhausted yourself physically? 2) When was the last time you walked on soil barefooted? 3) When was the last time you took a bath in rain? 4) When was the last time you couldn't stop laughing for 5-10 minutes until your tummy started hurting? 5) When was the last time you cried? 6) When was the last time you hugged someone deeply? 7) When was the last time you bonded with an animal from street? 8) When was the last time you lied down on a grass field? 9) When was the last time you participated in a sport? 10) When was the last time you jumped into a natural water body?

Do it! The Lord demands a sacrifice!

I've a feeling that after Leo comes back, he will block all of us acting like monkeys on steroid Or put us on a 100 hour self-inquiry drill..

haha okay

This really makes sense. I've had experiences in meditations where I could seemingly penetrate through and melt 'pain' with concentration instantly. Pain would keep transforming quickly...until it became totally neutral. Almost like neutralizing acid with a buffer solution. That sure would be a really valuable ability to look into and develop

Words of inspiration and pitfalls. It's all about perseverance.

@Sahil Pandit @kieranperez Guys fundamentally this once again brings out the predetermination vs free will dilemma. oh God... For me personally, I've been both the champion super efficient workaholic for years and also saw everything crumble before my eyes as I bummed out for months/years. So I really know the taste of both side. I honestly don't know what drives us anymore or what's actually going on

@Andreas So basically emptying one's cup so that more pain can be welcomed huh? I like how you frame it. @kieranperez It's really the consistency and volume that is the issue here. Also this pain withstanding capacity is never a fixed parameter. Even in my own life, I've seen it fluctuating a great deal over the ages or ever over the course of a day. Another thing you pointed out, pain really has many many layers and faces. I guess it's the inability to really look at them like Ralston does, makes those layer supercharge each other and hit the victim down KO

Consciousness doesn't increase or decrease. The game of life is all about aligning with certain beliefs, values, actions and perspectives that produce less and less amount of friction down the line. In other words, making one's dream smoother and smoother. The project never ends though.

Finally someone said it. Thank you SD stages are just set of beliefs, values and worldviews. Tools to navigate inside the dream

One story I've been seeing consistently for over 1 year in this forum: People picking on Joseph. Lets just stop. Peace out. Take care.

@Andreas I really feel that this ability to withstand pain(physical and emotional) consistently day after day is like the most important key to success or skill building any department. How much does genetics play on this? Many many people just can't have that pain tolerance. I wonder whether all this is in the head or if some people are 'really' crippled at withstanding the pain..

@Andreas Are you a David Goggins minion? Jokes aside, I was thinking about the same value this morning while I was jogging and my legs were just killing me. It made me think how if someone could reprogram oneself as a 'masochist' who kinda gets some sort of satisfaction from pain and discomfort and suffering, how he/she could accomplish a LOT of things..

I saw you passing through a stage where you were really trying to fit enlightenment in coral or some other SD stage

I saw it a number of times where you preach that enlightenment is stage coral. Please don't ask me to find it now

thank you

Coming from a guy who often declares Enlightenment=Coral such irony indeed

It's the modern replacement for good ol' dick measuring contests