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@Anton Rogachevski So if you accept the Wikipedia definition of Ontology, how can you claim that it is fundamental? Wikipedia defines it as a branch of philosophy. So, it is something humans invented. Here is how you can prove that Ontology is not fundamental to reality. Look at what's in front of you. Do you see any Ontology? No. That's a projection of your mind. What am I missing here?

Hunger is an illusion. Here's why. Proof or explenation is not gonna cut it as a means to answer this question: why is hunger an illusion? It must be seen through, clearly. I am hungry all the time. The reason why is unclear. I make a list of rationalizations to myself about why I am hungry. I tell myself that I am hungry because I fasting, because I am not eating. It sounds like such a clever line of reasoning, but it collapses next to this one: How could "I" be hungry if "I" don't properly exist? Who is there to be hungry, to feel hunger, to need anything at all? This is the first step: realizing that there is no one. Now, even if it were true that I am hungry because I have not eaten food, it does not matter, because I am still hungry, and understanding why my hunger exists does not make it go away. It could very well be that a direct correlation is taking place between lacking food and feeling hungry. But I intuit that something much more sinister is going on here... Let's take a step back and dissect the concepts working in the background. If hunger is defined as an objective state that humans can reach, then my logic flies out the window. Indeed, if we inhabit a world of fixed and defined categories of felt emotion, then logic is no longer needed, for everything has already been made clear by the laws of men and their endless thoughts. But, if it is the case that emotions are more murky than hungry or sad, happy or mad, then a deeper investigation begets the discovery of who feels what, how, and why. When I feel hungry, I don’t like it. Thus I aim to get free of the perceived sensation of hunger such that I can bring my pain to an end. I associate the pain and the hunger, and just like that I have elaborately deceived myself. If I were to just eat food, then the hunger would go away. But the problem there is that something else would occupy my attention. And I would not be free. Because the hunger was never a problem to begin with. The problem was and always has been that I do not confront the totality of my present experience and instead label it unsatisfactorily and proceed to attempt to logic my way out of it, using steps, reason, argument, evidence, and proof. If I were to eat food, then what I perceive to be hunger would go away. But if I see what is underneath and behind and sourcing my hunger in this very moment, then I would not have to go through the trouble of eating food, for the truth is that nothing is necessary, not even survival. This runs counter to the desire to remain alive, but that desire is rotten since it backfires by taking one away even further from life, into the realms of dreaming about what could be better than It, than This, than Everything. The solution to feeling pain is not to label it and find a cure, but to collapse it into the void that has no meaning and is beyond pleasure and pain. The "hunger" I experience is an absolutely fundamental aspect of the great field of perception, but it is not hunger, for I only label it as such. I have learned throughout my life how to distinguish this from that. Emotions are just one such category within which more categories have been concocted, so many times over that they are now ingrained, used as filters that process raw qualia, missing the point entirely and constructing a world in its place that makes sense, endures ups and downs, and never gets to the bottom of everything. The solution to all problems is getting to the bottom of everything. The solution to hunger is realizing that it never existed. And the reason why fasting is so powerful a tool is because it strips away all the usual excuses and stories that you cycle through distastefully, replacing them with a seemingly palpable sense of hunger, the gateway to all things imaginable and the cure for the sickness of not knowing God. But, instead of going straight to God, I choose to abide in my hungry rationalizations. I like to chalk up my felt experience of life as "I am hungry, goddamnit," which warrants no further search and at once traps me in my own proclamation. Nothing is real! Oh, my, fucking God: What an epic realization. I am dumbfounded to a degree that is so beyond this world that it is somewhere inside of it? What is going here....? Nevermind, I'm just kidding: I'm hungry! That's all that's going on here – nothing especially mysterious or magical. It's just some dude who is hungry. Like, really, I am not kidding you. If you come closer, you can HEAR my stomach growling, asshole. Stop telling me it's not real. But, but, but.... SHUT IT! I NEED A CHEESEBURGER! Could care less about God. Give me some shrimp legs and evaporated milk, then we'll talk. Anyways, this is so damn powerful because (of my newfound fasting [food abstinence] practice) I am pushed to the very edge, the tip, the brink of perception. I can either stay hungry or say goodbye to everything I thought to know, love, and hold dear..................

@Twentyfirst lol, yeah, just like saying I gotta take a dump All is 1, habibi

Unless you are defining ontology as absolute infinity, that is, you are not defining it, then I stand by what I said

@Anton Rogachevski how do you define ontology? I'd love to have a serious convo with you, so first step is defining our terms.

@Princess Arabia love you, Princess 😘

@Twentyfirst Iran is a real, existential threat to the survival of Israel. Why do you think they invest so much time & energy into developing nukes? You think they just want to have the nukes to have them?

@Hardkill the world is fucked and always has been, especially if you're the one looking at it. And you are slimy and dirty just like the far-right delusional propagandists So the solution is taking responsibility for the devilry of the MAGa, far right, whatever else — and accepting it as yourself Definitely not a comforting answer. But the only one.

@Twentyfirst preemptive means taking measures b4 Iran develops Nukes, according to Israel militsry philosophy. They attack preemptively in anticipation of Iran attacking them.

My point is that ontology is a scam, and reality alone is real, and ontology is fucking shit, bro.

@Santiago Ram respect bro for replying and being a good sport but Jesus is not a path. There is no path. There is nowhere to go Perhaps the fantasy of Jesus may even help you reach a wordly goal of sorts, who knows But for God Realization? Are you kidding? Jesus Christ? Yeah, right. Jesus Christ!

Hope you're doing well too, man Jesus Christ = grand fantasy Keep searching, my brotha. Underneath your fine story of why Jesus Christ is king lies a truth so shocking that it will make all these words dissappear upon discovery. This idea of Jesus being a teacher or someone that can offer you guidance along your path is selfish and myopic. Look deeper. Jesus ain't real. Gawk the reality that there is no difference between your penis and your neighbor's foot. This is serious. This is what Jesus taught. Please do not bastardizd his teachings in a whirlpool of cringe and epistemic myopia. The serious people on this forum are united under a common goal, and that is the achievment of everything at once, the Holy Grail, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Triniry, whatever bro.

The point of spirituality is pointless and infinite and identical to the reason you are on this forum, the substance of the device you are viewing it on, and everything else, actually, now. Way too much to understand. JUST LOOK!

Short answer is no, none of those activities will make you happy. Yes, you will develop relationships with your hobbies, meet new people, learn invaluable skills, gain a lot of pleasure from doing it. That's awesome, man! But that's not gonna fill the hole in your heart. Nothing will If you ask, "Is this a solid list of hobbied?" I would say, "fucks yea, dude!" But is it what is needed to fulfill your soul, to BECOME that which you ever wanted? No chance. If your goal is peace or fulfillment, pursue spirituality to its end. Again, the answer to your question of how do I be more happy is right in front of you. Consider that "LIVING LIFE TO THE FULLEST" is only achievable right this very moment. Bungee jumping, paragliding, epic threesome, winning the lottery, you think these things will make you feel like you're living life to the fullest? Think again, brother, or don't bother thinking in the 1st place. And once you do that, your mma and drawing and whatever else will be filled with more skill, intensity, consciousness, effortlessness, and creativity.

No, there is definitely more fundamental than physics and ontology, as those are fantasies. Even Leo's ontology is a fantasy. WHAATTTT?? Yes. More fundamental. Get there!

@Anton Rogachevski Anton, @Breakingthewall is not talking about anything. I would suggest not trying to understand what he is on about. Excuse me for butting it, but it is clear that Mr. BreakingWall is talking about something utterly unfathomable that is beyond both physics & ontology.

Israel launches preemptive strike against Iran. Attacks nuke sites and military facilities. Shit is about to escalate. Jesus Christ, send a prayer.

@Raze Again, bro, my point is not to make a political claim & certainly not to propogandize To chalk my opinion up to propoganda is insulting and shows that you cannot fathom WHAT I am talking about. You are still framing this issue as good versus evil. Israelis bad. Occupation bad. Genocide bad. Poor Palestinians, the victims of the Israeli nationalist selfish colonial violent machiavellian mentality. That you think there is a clear aggressor and victim of aggression in this scenario shows me that you have taken a side. Look, man, I respect your view, even though it is black and white, it is nuanced and I can tell you are passionate about politics, that your heart burns for the starving children and dead kids under rubble. But you are still framing it with untenable logic. To deny Hamas's role in this war is ridiculous. Obviously they did not start it, but they did provoke this particular battle... Also, to look at the history and conclude that Israel has been trying to ethnically cleanse and "mass killing" Muslims and Palestinians ever since its inception & before — now THAT'S propaganda! The reason why you can't chalk up this issue to good versus evil scenario is because of the profoundly personal role your mind plays in making sense of this. First, you assumr that Israel is united, that Israel is the aggresor because it has the power to be one. But it doesn't. Because Israel, just like Palestine, are words that mean nothing. The people who identify with them are the ones in question, but they do not agree amongst themselves. You first have to define categories into existence to create a situation where good is pitted against evil. You then have to rationalize who started what because of course this war could not have arisen as a natural consequence of delusion. It had to be nationalism or zionism or the Occupation or the Genocide. Buzz words. What if there is no Genocide in Gaza? Now don't freak out. What if there actually is no Genocide in Gaza? Just consider. You may even be imagining it into existence, my dude: that most non-trivial of points. This does not mean that there are no solutions, and as I mentioned, a gentleman in the Greta post on this subforum had a stellar solution that I acknowledged. Of course it won't happen anytime soon because humans love to take their sides. They won't drop them, because they identify with them. Survival > truth I will try to make my point one more time. I don't care to argue with you. Intelligent discussion only please So, for the last time, I am saying that Israelis are not at fault for the war and so-called Genocide in Gaza, nor is Hamas, nor is America, nor is ANY ONE PARTY! ALL ARE BAD ACTORS! DIG IT! @PurpleTree There is No Way the UN is NOT corrupt. Case in point.

And people continue to wonder why there is war... It is because of PEOPLE like this... Not ONLY people like this, but, do you get the memo? We are dealing with a play of ALL BAD-ACTORS! Israel, Palestine, Hamas, IDF, Shin Ber, Iran, Amrka, European nations, UNRWA, UN, Syria, Lebanon, Hezbolla, Egypt, Jordan, Yemen, Houthi, Iraq, Jews, Muslims, Arabs, Israelis, Muslim-Israelis, Palestinain-Israelis, those living in territories without so much as a national identity, and all the poor people suffering from this mess. All of them, fucked. This means that you cannot take sides. If you cannot take sides, your position falls apart. If your position falls apart, then there is reconciliation, solution, or end to this Fucking Insanity lol Not funny.

Love you too, lol

@Raze Is local Palestinians protesting against Hamas in Gaza crying to "give us the food" and getting shot for doing so proof enough for you? If this is also fake news, then everything I say is wrong. Can't trust my news sources, can I? I mean, even if you were right there, would you know what is really happening? My point here is not to make a political claim. Fuck that, you feel me, bro? No, I just want to point out that the Israel-Palestine conflict is a particularly pernicious permutation of debaucherous human insanity gone too far, and that it cannot be touched with opinion or logic, even though Leo said that there are higher perspectives. Yes, there are, and I acknowledged someone in the Greta post on this subforum who espoused an incredibly astute POV of this nonsense/bullshit. I am just saying that it is not what you think, it is not good vs. evil scenario, everyone I see is framing it this way. Leo is one of the very few humans I have come across who has a genuine grasp of this PARTICULAR issue, no glaze lol

Just to be specific, so that I am making a point, my goal here is to show that Hamas is just as much responsible for the Fuckery in Gaza as any other bad actor. Hamas is a big part of the reason why the Gaza population is experiencing a famine. It is not merely because of ethnic cleanding and constsnt bombardment, nor even that they do not have enough food, but that Hamas steals it all.

@PurpleTree i got an even deeper insight from listening to her, that is concerning self-deception If you really want to understand da dynamics of human devilry, just listen to Australian news reporter Becomes clear how it's all delusion. Yet it is still in your language so can understand a little bit 😅