SourceCodo

The Great Pretender I have found you at last.

I’d say mine is either a 0 or a 10. Because I believe there is very little out there that needs finding. The ecstasy and euphoria from realizing union with with/as God is just another experience. Spontaneous awakenings are just more of the same. The body reacting with external and internal stimuli. All folly when grasped too tightly. There is nothing that Leo has brought up or anyone on this forum that hasn’t already been explained or pointed toward by someone through time. At least not that I’ve found yet. And It all translates back to the mundane for me. A real drug for the spiritual addict. What do you say? 0 or 10? Or somewhere in between?

Don’t play dumb. The problem here is to assert that all women have rape fantasy. That’s the disgusting part. If you’re talking about the mental imagery and fear that comes with possibility, I don’t consider that fantasy. More like dread. You continue to avoid the real point, just so you’re able to lean into the select group that does fantasize about this. No one argued that point. Again, the argument is about the assertion that all women share this fantasy. And that Osho was dim-witted and wrong for saying it. And that you are foregoing compassionate awareness by indirectly defending him. Because you’re just bringing up a different point. Some do have those fantasies. You coddling Osho just makes it appear as though you agree. To each their own. But don’t project your universally attributable bullshit onto other people and assume you’re right.

Alright spiritual ego, will you ask me something so I can say you’re cool too?

Most of the Zen writings I’ve explored brought this up clearly. All “things” are products of the mind. Including the senses. and the mind is constantly lying to us and manipulating us into various actions or inactions. Steering our path using the ways of the world and everything it thinks it can comprehend or just what it wants. But then those ZM’s point out that the mind is a fallacious liar. It’s not always easy to see that we are fallacious liars, but it’s easy to see in others. But when we can see it so clearly in everyone… It’s only logical that we too are probably this way. Even if only due to ignorance. They also point out that as soon as you put all of that nonsense down and start just experiencing rather than pacing back and forth in thoughts… Then you’ll see reality. Clean and pure. “Not till your thoughts cease all their branching here and there, not till you abandon all thoughts of seeking for something, not till your mind is motionless as wood or stone, will you be on the right road to the Gate.” “Here it is--right now. Start thinking about it and you miss it.” Huang Po

Tell you and the people you know’s fathers, brothers, grandfathers, daughters, girlfriends, wive’s, mother, grandmother that. Ask if it is true for them. Also ask why they consider Osho wrong and you a cuck for agreeing with Osho that all women fantasize about being raped. I said Osho said all women have this fantasy. You said some. Then you said Osho is not wrong. Contradictory. And quite disgusting. What is wrong with you?

Is this a claim?

Sorry, that wasn’t very nice. I edited it.

Osho also claimed that all women secretly desire to be raped. For attention and feeling wanted. In a public lecture. Great guy to learn from. (Aggressive sarcasm) Also, to your point, the arguer and asserter are also deluded. It implies we believe our education (contained information) is superior to the others. So we assert. Your post is an assertion. The one who sees that all of this education and information we accumulate as just an instrument of describing the intangible mundane reality… Is probably a pretty chill, deluded person. Education is simple continuity. For this giant ant colony of ours. Never perfect, but helpful. I agree that people are deluded into believing it is somehow very important or meritorious to accumulate a lot of it. It’s folly. But it’s good for conversation and survival to be well educated on the ways of the world. Observing what things do and what they don’t. p.s. it’s all delusion anyways. but we are still trying.

No barometer, rather, I hold the view that the ideas are just information which either fits into the puzzle I’m piecing of this mind… Or it doesn’t. That usually means it’s relevant or perhaps something extraordinary happened. Extraordinary usually equates to insight from metaphor. I think that with’ psychedelic insight, truth is derived, rather than created by. So to say it’s the psychedelic giving us information isn’t necessarily the ticket. It’s a chemical acting on our system which makes our mind behave in a manner that is unique compared to day to day living. Opening to modes, new perspectives, new ideas. I’d rather turn the question back and ask… How much do you trust your own mind? How is the quality of what your mind brings you day to day?

Epic

What exactly are you asking me to try really hard at? I want you to try really hard to believe that Jesus is the true ruler of this world. That Satan has had your mind and has been using you as a puppet in the world. Rebuke this. Once you do, Heaven will open to you and you’ll be able to escape these creative make believe self help strategies. I bet you don’t even like Jesus and probably lean more toward some self embodied creative symbol of something… Anyways, I don’t mean the thing about Jesus at all. I just said that weird broken sentence to get your attention. I’m drawing your mind to the point that it’s not gonna happen. I’m as repulsed by what you just recommended as a lot of people are going to be by what I just said up there. Feel me at all?

Nvm

That seems about right. Anyone who deals with self defeating behaviors / thoughts can likely agree. ?? ”Quit hitting yourself”

A self given title? Or a title given by others? Leo is God - he said so. But what does that really mean? Not much. God is just a word. Even the Bible points to this. Now… What the word points to…. How would you embody or encapsulate pure, intangible creativity? Or perhaps Love, which in my observation is included under the umbrella of creativity? Impossible to do so non-subjectively, IMO. What will you do with all these answers to all of these questions when all of these people take their time to respond? What is the point aside from further mental masturbation?

This is some goofy, goofy stuff. Creating all of these labels and categories for “transmissions”… Appropriating several religious characters, terminologies and practices in the process… Truly some form of tail chasing sickness. Transmissions all originate in mind of the people sending. Mind creates endless illusion. Misleads. Why propagate pointless, misleading illusions? Which these clearly are. Transmission is also like saying “I said this”. So simple. All of what you said is just categorical naming conventions for different types of information and the people conveying it. Brand names. And which is clearly being used for profit… Poop on a stick and call it a fudge pop. This has been a mind transmission of SourceCodo.

This is an odd place.

Well then. Enjoy yourself out there!

No hate. Just sarcasm and fun. And I've got experience with 5-MeO and among several others. What's with the pandering? What are you hoping I'll attain through psychedelic use? More God realization? Deeper awakenings? Aka... More insight from different perspectives? What's the point? My point was that Zazen helps gets you past all of this tail chasing and helps you find presence to actually experience the life... But it's just a tool. So yeah. Ok

Sounds like a decent way to respect and honor yourself. To offer the self up for sacrifice so that another self can move in is metaphysical suicide. “I’m clearly not good enough so I guess I’ll die and let another perspective overwrite mine.” Sounds so wholesome, right? Jk. Your “ego” never dies. Your “ego” is just a term pointing at some aspects of your character. Just be you and grow, evolve, become. That’s what is really happening here anyways. Accept it. Leave death and metaphysical brutality for later.

You are clearly correct in your title. The projections in this post kind of tied my hands regarding any arguments I could come up with. ???

There is truly nothing to gain from telling us that you’re God. Aside from attention. You finding peace of mind is a worthy, worthy goal. It’s a fun thought experiment… But beyond the realization… There’s only reality and a sea of emotion. Finding calm presence to be you in that sea is a true challenge. Leo has only changed his mind through realization. He’s still a soft bodied talking head with sales goals to meet and products to sell. And now people attack him constantly as a charlatan. If that’s what you’re after… Enjoy the 5-MeO. It’s a wild ride.

That's a few levels below where Zazen will take him.

Dope. And that's clearly a choice. Carry on...

What exactly is your point? Like what's your ask here? More murder because we're animals?? Hope not.