Natasha Tori Maru

@EdgeGod900 Do not think there is anything personal going on here. There is no moral high ground. What do you think moderators do? Just because something 'isn't that bad yet' doesn't mean it wasn't wrong in the first place. And no - I do not know if you know when to stop. The warning above was a general one. You weren't singled out.

Do not treat each other in a derogatory way. Be mature or say nothing.

You will find that this: Will just.... happen

The question would no longer be pertinent upon realization. You would have to enquire - why would you be aiming for something? What do you think we would be left with, after no-self?

There is a lot of time and care put into this. Appreciation, much much

One other con that isn't listed (not sure if this applies in the US, I'm Australian) but a credit card is counted as a debt against you (regardless of balance) if you ever go for a bank loan.

Well, they say if you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him

A human Being

@AlienGeometry sounds like CE5 / Steven Greer stuff ?

This. Is. The. Shit. Conscious relationship. I am a seeker of it. I really appreciate the share - thank you

I do have to remind it to be an arsehole again - so you are on to something there

Are you currently in the middle of untangling your self, your ego, from your base sense of 'being'? When you are on the cusp of something large like this, a big fear block usually shows up. That process was very very destabilising for me. Very frightening. Like falling from a plane in tandem with an instructor parachuting. You feel safe clinging to the instructor (the ego), but you know to experience the fall in the full you must let go. The fear is the fear of letting go, the ego falling away. The unknown awaits. You look down and it appears like insanity - and the more insane part is you have no parachute! No guide once you let go. But when you do, you find there is no ground - and the experience goes. Goes. And goes. And you realise you have never seen the world before. Some of these religious institutions have some good grounding methods (Buddhism) because they know how destabilising the process is. Most of their practice is heavy on the grounding work - grounding is what you need. Of the body. The sensations. Walking meditation. Yoga. Any sort of manual task like cleaning even. A powerful one for me is concentrating on centering myself within my body, just below the belly button. I put all my focus there and it is quite pleasant. I feel a bit better every time. Fear is normal. Fear is actually the ultimate deception. The ultimate block to Love. You can take this work at your own pace. Pause for a bit of you don't feel ready. There is no end, so no rush. The feeling of insanity can be the beginning of disidentifying with thought. Thought is usually the ground of the inner landscape. Scary to delete the ground. That's why you need 'grounding' practice 😜 new ground after you delete the old

You can tailor it with respect to responses, no? Mine is set to some kind of arsehole mode, skeptic over 9000 I altered it a while ago. I was coming up with some different methods to install cladding on a project (tricky access that needed a crane). It was initially more intent on praising me for innovation when my intent was a hard list of pros/cons. How it's built out of the box creates a little echo chamber, if I recall correctly

@Breakingthewall I apologize for being condescending - or that it came out that way. It was not the intention. The intention was for you to be able to hold space for another perspective and reasonably speak on why it was not valid. Which, perhaps you did do - but the explanation was lost in the process. I have ego also, we all do. And all make mistakes and misunderstandings. No one is any better than the other. I wish you well!

You can also reach the limit of your inquiry within a domain - you naturally branch out and explore other domains. A broader perspective then facilities a deeper understanding of the original territory. I think the forum acts like this for Leo

Great dialogue - if I understand it correctly Einstein is saying the truth exists, even if humans do not. Tagore is of the belief that if no human is there to experience it - it is meaningless to call it truth at all? Einstein is believing in his 'objective laws' like a religion, really. I think Tagore is trying to reconcile the universal in the individual, noted in that he seems to believe the role of the mind is as a co-creator of reality. What do you think? Truth exists independently of humans or it emerges through human consciousness?

/end thread

That is true - all sound is a spectrum of frequencies. But higher frequencies have nothing to do with 'higher energy' or 'more positive' vibes or states. Higher frequencies are the treble you hear - symbols, guitar, violin etc Lower frequencies are the bass you hear - bass guitar, bass drum, cello, double base etc Music is an amalgamation of a variety of sound frequencies, beats and timings. Music is also rather uniquely perceived - different music makes people feel different things. Some people find metal to be 'high vibration' others find it to be caustic to their ears. This isn't to be confused with binaural beats, theta, gamma, delta, beta, etc. They have been shown to induce different brainwave states. The 'wavering' you hear in the audio from binaural beats is actually created from your brain registering a difference in frequencies (one frequency in one ear, another in the other).

It won't make you a believer - but it might just make you take a second look at the phenomena. Only because the Nimitz incident is more tangible - which I think is what might tickle the epistemic feet

How sly - still an assumption. Can never know what I truly think... Let me know what you think of the US Nimitz stuff and how it bangs up with the epistemic rigor

@RendHeaven Triggered A jackhammer trying to dislodge the delusion

@Joshe Well said - not discounting any of that. I suppose you could be assuming I haven't thought of mass suggestibility Just digging into the phenomenon and presenting various accounts. No conclusions regarding their authenticity. Have you looked at the Nimitz incident, Cmdr David Fravor etc?

Wicked dreams last night about twin red dragons with silver light reigns tethered to my wrists - my best attempt to render one. No reference used - I ran out of space on the page with spoiled it a bit. I have a lot of practice rendering dragons so pulling from recall isn't so hard:

I mean I could be incorrect with regard to his deeper theory but his premise regarding survival makes some sense: Perception and attention are such energy intensive tasks, only the organisms that focus on tasks and things that feed survival live to evolve. Organisms that pay attention to the incorrect parts of reality that aren't relevant to survival simply die. This serves to explain why we do not perceive reality as it truly is - but we experience a set of beliefs that operate solely to facilitate survival. Explains why truth seeking conflicts with survival. I think he may be correct about some things, and not about others. Pretty much the case with most people

Ariel School UFO encounter 16th Sep 1994 (Zimbabwe) An older one - but more first hand recounts for anyone who hasn't gone deep into the history of UFOs / UAPs. UFO landed in front of 62 students - beings approached and interacted with them: