Natasha Tori Maru

You just don't have that. You don't experience the body dying. That's all. The awareness of the body dying and aging is never had. From God's POV? I don't think the question applies because in the absolute there is no-thing. No body. Empty, but not even empty. No words

You would loose the possibility of an experience. Do you mean maintaining the body, and thereby the ego self?

Love it, thanks for the post I've always naturally shifted perspectives and seen multiple all at once. It is an asset used wisely. And people are terrified of their own power. Big unconscious issue, that 🌱

Argh I hate when this happens - bloating causes me low mood, brain fog as well as general discomfort. My only cure is to drink water and walk. I don't pound the water down, but I sip all day above what I normally consume. I tend to also reduce my meals down in size / go for liquid energy during that time. I find letting my digestive system totally clear out to be beneficial, as putting more in taxes it while it is clearing. Might not work for everyone.

Books are not useful? I sort of cannot understand the lack of thought there. Very hard to accurately retain and transmit complex knowledge through generations without them. A human dies and we loose their intellect, books can assist in retaining and distributing knowledge. Obviously we have systems, ai, videos etc now. But they are inherently harder to maintain as they do not exist in isolation. One good solar flare will shut down power etc. books were a record keeping method in a way. Just one of many benefits.

@Rishabh R This is great advice Sometimes I find re-reading as Rishabh said a few times, as well as taking notes after one or two paragraphs, helps to cement it in memory. Another trick I use is forcing myself to nap for 30 minutes, or meditate - then reading again. Like a reset button.

@Miguel1 Your story - beautiful I especially love the image - it truly does represent a new beginning. New phase of life exploration. Dive into you. How you express yourself shows you live life like an artist Slightly jealous of that view, ya bastard

@Inliytened1 @Emerald These LLM responses are really eye opening regarding its informational consistency.

@ExploringReality Preach

@Inliytened1 Haha I don't make generalizations, but I have seen just as many men get emotional and fold on construction sites as I do women get emotional. Society doesn't seem to label anger, rage and violence as emotional. Violence is an emotional expression just as crying is an emotional expression. Both sexes express emotion, just on different axis'. When we do not understand something, we typically call it 'irrational' or 'crazy'.

I'm just waiting for Solipsism to come into it.... Why would Leo be holding a retreat to facilitate when its all just him?

This hit - I remember a similar HUGE reframe of things like songs etc. Relistening it suddenly has a whole different meaning when you realize the falsehood of what is being sold to you... It also made me very cautious of any meaning making we do. False meanings can really hinder us. And meaning is something we naturally look for as a way to obtain certainty (and certainty is a way to gain safety - goes back to survival mechanisms). To understand the meaning so we can predict outcomes and survive. And don't get me wrong - meaning can be important - but it can be another way we blind ourselves to truth. Damn, this is vulnerable - thanks for sharing. My brother experienced this also during a phase he was smashing ONS. Multiple girls home at a time. He also went to the doctor. But soon worked out it was a total mechanical loss of connection with the act that was causing ED. He has always been good with the social thing (he has close relationships with sisters and an excellent understanding of femininity), but he realized he was sort of shelving his feminine side and suppressing to 'run through' women (as he termed it). He wasn't into pickup, but he was socializing with a lot of men who were in a bit of a ONS phase. I think it rubbed off on him. Glad you are recovered

No but there are guidelines so that is your arbiter. Regardless - take this up with Leo if you have an issue with the guidelines. Thanks

@Hojo Mate when you are being offensive with sexist generalizations then yeah - you probably should do a self-check before posting. Self awareness.

Listen - you do you boo - in your own head. Not all thoughts are so wonderful and profound they need to be shared. Feel free to make these generations in your mind - but keep posting such things to a minimum. Unless you like consequences.

No. You need more variety of experience with women. This is rather sexist.

This is more related to connection I think - you perceive you can attain happiness through the connection with a partner. But in reality - it is the true connection with yourself you require that you cannot feel. Once you connect with yourself, love springs from the seeds of experience shared with another. Without the neediness of thinking they can supply what we do not have. What ends up being created between - experience - is the font of love. Stems from society telling us we are not enough. We need another to be whole. So you end up with broken pathological attached love being represented as the aim. They sell you something by creating a percieved lack. Insidious.

We should probably get some clarity around transcending socialisation and just experiencing less of a need for it in general. It's like food - some people compulsively eat and make bad decisions with it. It forms a compulsive addiction due to unlived highest values. As you fulfill those values the compulsive need to escape into food lessons. You begin to eat to live, rather than live to eat. In my personal journey this effect was mirrored in the social domain - I looked to more socialisation when younger. As I got further into healing and then spiritual work, my need for socialisation lessoned. And I realised I simply needed much less that I previously presumed. I am willing to forego a lot of socialisation in the pursuit of quality over quantity. The need will always be there just like food. I do not think Leo has said recently he wants zero socialisation in a pathological way - in fact earlier in this thread he displayed good interoception remarking faciliated contact with others was healthy and he felt a need for it. I think he simply discerns that a lot of the social domain can involve recursive echo chambers, and is aware this has an effect on him. As it does is all. The old saying goes 'You are the sum of your top 5 people'. So I think this retreat may also be a way to have a social experience aimed at quality over quantity. And a process to vet people to avoid excessive wasted time socialising to find quality. Shared experience is a way to connect in a more profound way than anything else. And I think the sorts of people to attend will be surprising. You just never know who is a seeker. To my opinion Leo hasn't been so black and white lately with these sorts of statements. The same way he has had more emotional stability and (what appears to me) peace, as opposed to his previous conduct on the forum regarding violent expletives. Sorry Leo I do not mean to use this against you, as you have exposed yourself in a way others have not. Which opens you to critisizm. This is merely to give evidence of growth. I perceive Leo has healed some issues behind the scenes. And my conviction here is reflected in my actions - I would never have accepted the Moderator position under the previous Leo (lets pretend that Leo died 🤪) I suppose this looks like I am defending - this is just my subjective observation of the patterns of his posting, content and tone.

@zurew 🎯

Cooperation and collaboration was a pivotal factor in human evolution. Cooperative hunting, division of labor, and the development of language and complex tools. Power in numbers. It has its pitfalls, but those who engage in the groupthink that is so denigrated often stand at the pillars of society that we all benefit from. They are valid and needed - just not in all domains.

The amount of nondual bypassing - I'm splitting

It's probably already happening... I share that trepidation. Most of the vegan proteins in the consumer reports testing were highest in lead, I noticed.

@Eskilon It could be one possible meaning to be taken out of it. I stopped searching for meaning in things a long time ago after running into paradox... The search is beneficial because it pushes you to grow. It gives structure, direction - purpose. I learned a lot. I think the best way to frame it is like climbing a ladder to reach the sky. Useful - until you realise the sky was never really up there was it? It was all around me the whole time In addition, searching for meaning subtly reinforces the idea meaning is somewhere else - not here, not now, not within me. But the path of seeking meaning is essential. Tears down belief, false gods, money, approval, egoic attachment. Points to something truer.... You don't look for the meaning of the music while its playing Just my opinions

Imagine you could dream any dream you wanted, every night - you could dream 75 years of time in one night. Every night you could have any kind of pleasure, adventure, or experience you desired. At first, you’d live out your wildest fantasies. Love, power, beauty, triumph, bliss! But eventually, you’d get bored of predictable pleasure. So you’d start adding uncertainty, risk, and surprise. “Tonight, let’s dream something less predictable… maybe something that feels real.” And after many such dreams, you’d eventually dream the kind of life you’re living right now. Complete with its ups, downs, heartbreaks, uncertainties, and miracles. “You would be living exactly as you are now — because that’s what you would dream." - Alan Watts

@BlueOak Good analogy - helped. Cheers