Natasha Tori Maru

Doesn't he have the chem symbol for 5-Meo tattooed also? He is a proponent for psychoactive chemicals. I truly believe he has some mental illness going on - but that is beside the point He has a lot of reach so this might assist dissipating stigma.

@LoneWonderer None of us are gonna make it out of this alive! Lets get back to UFO theories as a way to avoid troubles - we all got troubles to avoid hehe But back on topic - I think it takes a particular intuitive type of person (those who look into the meaning behind things) that will gravitate to awakening/spirituality. I have noticed also (in my experience) as we gain material wealth in life - the meaning behind this type of seeking falls away to reveal an emptiness. Many older people I know begin to look to meaning as they age up. But some flip the other way - and find that feeling of emptiness anathema to them - so fall to addiction & cope. I think that fear of emptiness is partially fear of the unknown. There is no path to walk inside, like the path out of our houses, or down the street. No map. Spiritual seekers are more willing to face that and dive in.

For myself, I speak only from experiences - allowing whatever feeling I was trying to avoid and investigating it fully was the only way out. Most of my own pathology was rooted in either avoiding a feeling, or unclear value systems. To address my issues I first back engineered: what am I feeling? Follow that on to 'what am I thinking?' As an origin to where that feeling arose from. This mostly tethered back to some belief I have (that may or may not be true). And when investigating that belief (which for me, was always a meaning taken from past experience) checking it over for truth. Usually I would realise something untrue or an assumption that was false. A wrong meaning derived. Then I went out and engaged in relationships / social domains to test if my old meaning was indeed correct. Every time I was able to prove to myself I had made the wrong meaning of a past situation when younger - in my formative years. Overcoming the fear and having courage to confront and test this is another aspect entirely - but I did find that the FEAR never left me, only my own tolerance to it rose enough to sit with it. Part of the issue with rejection fears are that they really harken back to basic survival: being 'rejected' or thrown out of a tribe or clan of people meant death during evolution. Humans looked after each other in groups. We have always had power and success via numbers in tribes. So rejection is rooted deep inside us, indeed making it feel like you will literally die. Because back then - you would. The brain has survival mechanisms that really backfire AND run counter to spiritual work. Anyway I digress - apologies!

@EdgeGod900 Everything turns into a contemplation in this place 😈

Some weird definitions of gay floating here. Gay actually originally meant 'happy', 'cheerful' or 'carefree'. This was always my understanding of the term. It was then coined as a term for homosexual, but has been appropriated to a slur generally meaning 'uncool'. Similar to the use of the word 'fa*****' as a slang term that originally meant 'a bundle of sticks bound together as fuel'. I simply avoid using those terms as their meaning has been hijacked. Too imprecise for me

Step up! Penny-farthing level over here 😜

He didn't!

It sounds like a belief - but that is my assumption based on the fact you are asking others. The big realizations I had were knowing truth without a doubt. But that has been my experience.

So how do you know I missed the point? I didn't address that part in my post.

My point is individuals need to be compensated for their time.

I really understand. Some sections of the hospitals need special handles on doors for people who cannot articulate their fingers properly. Door hardware is custom designed to help users. Little things like turning a door handle or holding a kettle make me reflect on how capable I am. All the time. It is very humbling.

Holy shit - I am so sorry to hear this. I do not own a car to reduce overhead costs and assist with less environmental impact. As a result I walk everywhere as my transport. I arrange my life to be able to live this way. It also reduces stress and lets me engage in walking contemplation/meditation. No joke - every day. EVERY DAY. Every morning. I wake up and feel flooded with gratitude and appreciated for my body. For the life I have. For my mind. For my ability. I never want to take it for granted. Ever. Even something as simple as walking up and down the stairs to my apartment. A small achillies injury could wipe that out. I am almost 40 now, and the body changes. I appreciate it all. Because I know one day I will be unable to do what I do now. It will all be taken away. I build medical centres so all my work has a focus on disability. So much design and thought goes into it. People are ridiculously unaware of how ableist they are <3

Butterflies are a great way to destroy someone's reality. You just ask someone if they believe any lifeform can transform into another lifeform. They usually double down on 'no' - but do they even realise fucken grubs turn into that beautiful shit? @Eskilon This means yes - controlled via consciousness. 100%

@Carl-Richard I get it. I think we both have a lot of stuff to execute in real life - for me I look at it as 'what's measured makes progress'. So I think naturally there is a huge crossover in balance in real world action married up with philosophy/spirituality. Which has lead to a lot of good SOP's to live by to be effective. And we are spitting these out all over the forum triggering each others antennas One of my biggest projects in life is marrying up spirituality and philosophy to reality. Looking for the crossover. Seeking to validify spiritual insights through executing HARD in reality with physical feedback (materials and structures in construction). I see you doing this with the physical body and your work also!

I think this is true of most seekers. Even on this forum many aren't brave enough to say it like that and brandish themselves as 'truth' seekers. But they only want a particular 'flavour' or truth. Overcoming suffering was what lead me to real spiritual truth seeking - and even then I am way too much of a shit cu** to claim I am a truth seeker. More an.... inner peace seeker? Truth seeking is as loaded as awakening or enlightenment to me. Lot of ego left in me. A LOT. It is just easy to think I have less when compared to normies

Ace. This would be how I imagine a successful format would be. Also this shouldn't even need to be said, but I understand the need to reply. People honour what they invest in - and paying money is putting a testicle on the line. Stop that fickle shit people do.

Ooof, I feel attacked! I admire how raw and honest you are with yourself. Real emotional work was something I avoided for years until one day I found myself immobilized, unable to perform in life. I was then forced to face it all. It was a slow process but 10 years later I am pretty ace I still have some odd old habits that arise. Now I witness them and am merely curious, rather than having the feeling that comes up swamp me. A side effect is I can spot my old behaviour in others a mile away. Even tiny little things are tells of deeper pain. Things I was totally blind to - until I healed. I see it often - but I also check myself for projection. Sort of the inspiration behind my signature too

A lot of salt - ironic as it's probably the other way around 🙃😂

This is beautiful. From my perspective - I am not really great at talking about emotions to help soothe others. My mind jumps too quickly into solving their problem, as my way to care. Often others feel I am being heartless as I will gut the feeling out of the equation looking for a solution for them. When what they wanted was to earnestly express and be heard. And I never mean harm, it is always with good intentions. So to get my truth across, I will communicate in actions. I don't tell someone what will help them, I do it with them by experiencing with them. We do it together. I show the truth in actions. That is how it comes through me to assist others when words are needed for just the emotional expression. In this way I am heard because my truth speaks - just in action. And this communicates better than anything, because it is also shared time with the person where they can also emote. And in no way do I mean force - only if the recipient is happy to do the thing. The thing is to help them. Walks. Going out and buying something to solve a problem. Helping with the cooking. Instead of words 'Eat less junk, touch grass, buy some slippers for cold feet'. I see your actions as speaking truth through the body and time spent together. A truly masculine language and way to give back to the woman who gave you life. Just my interpretation <3

@Elliott @LoneWonderer Yep, and it is really, really insidious. You think that AI is automating and making everything quicker, faster. More efficient. Cloud hosting, images on iOS, Dropbox. All streaming services. Spotify, Youtube, Tiktok, Snapchat, Instagram... It all has a cost and needs a datacentre. And because it isn't directly seen and felt, experienced - we do not think on it. We know there is a cost, but we cannot grasp it. AI is in everything now too. I think it is one of the bigger, overlooked issues. I've done some work in construction around them, and I know exactly what it takes to construct & maintain them.

@WonderSeeker Great advice! Testing out and looking from direct feedback from action in reality is always the key for integration for me. When the insight really 'clicks' into place and becomes a knowing & true understanding, not just information. You can understand all the theory - but deriving from scratch, as you coin - is where the gold to be mined from experience lies

Genuinely. I think we have a lot of the same takes on reality, meaning, truth, mechanisms. So when one of us regurgitates an anecdote or hashes something out - its triggering a thought tangent that naturally runs off from the main topic. And that thought tangent is shared. Channelling maybe? WHO KNOWS, NOT GONNA THINK ABOUT IT. LETS ROLL WITH THE INSANITY Maybe its a crossover in how we perceiving & decisions? INTJ here

Hmmm, there is a lot here! I can see you are attempting to reframe how you view events and history through this cerebral process. And reframing can be very very powerful. I am naturally able to flip frames and perspectives. It is so natural I cannot prevent it happening - my default. I do this to sort of 'data harvest' meaning from past events so I can project future outcomes and discern meaning. Most people need to train this behaviour into themselves. I was blessed/cursed with it inherently (not to brag, it just is what it is). A secondary effect of this process has been that it often will reveal a hidden meaning I have made from an event. And that meaning usually becomes a belief. This is really important to realise as, often times, especially when we are young and developing, we take meaning from events that are not true in the slightest. For example 'I went and spoke to that person - and they rejected me. They acted like I wasted their time - that means I must always have a reason to approach someone'. This leads to internalised shame as a result of taking on the wrong meaning/belief from the event. The real meaning behind the event is 'People are selfish and will choose arbitrary reasons for dismissing you that has nothing to do with you at all' thus not internalizing any shame that we may be bad/wrong. But when we are children, it is way too scary to see the world and others as bad/evil - that is too much to take on mentally! So we tend to blame OURSELVES. It is US who are wrong - evil. That is internalising the shame. And this is tragic, because it can lead to all sorts of issues - namely social anxiety, approach anxiety, and self isolation. I use this example as it is an extremely common one I see in others. So I think your process is powerful - the feeling you are looking into - it is a result of a meaning/belief. But as you can see in the example above, the meanings we make about our world and ourselves are often WRONG. But the feeling remains because the belief remains unconsciously - that is to say - outside of our awareness of it. So it keeps coming up - this feeling. What the hell! Because the belief remains. So feelings are true - they are real - but where they arise from can be the error - the incorrect belief and meaning. This is why allowing feelings and following them is very, very important. They cannot be ignored or else they will come back with more force. More frequently. And they cannot always be trusted in that, the belief hidden behind them may be an error. Realising the above mentally is half the issue. That can be enough for a big 'THUNK!' moment in some and realization. But to integrate that you need to act it out in reality to prove to yourself that meaning is false, and see the truth of the experience that you missed the first time around. So if we roll with the example above - we realise there is some weird SHAME feeling that doesn't seem right - we want to test out this reframe of a past belief to see if it is true. And the only way to do so? Go out and approach others. Again and again. Look at the patterns. How they react. Do they always react to you the same? Even when you approach and have nothing to offer of value? I guarantee you they will not. Sometimes they welcome a stranger. Sometimes you have a laugh with them! They will always act differently. Even if you are the same... so what is going on? It cannot be an issue with you causing their reaction - they always react differently, independent of you. How they perceive you will always be different and really have nothing to do with you! Suddenly there is no shame there, because you are doing nothing wrong. You aren't bothering anyone. The key in the above is the action taken in reality to address the recontextualised view on past events. This will re-emphasise the falsehood of previous beliefs and act to create new memories, and see the truth originally missed. So my question is - as you seem to have contemplation down pat - have you been engaging in reality to generate experience to relook at what was once missed? This it the key to rewiring the mind. The direct feedback taken from reality... in the social domain. Working. Talking. Family. Friends. Exercise etc. It can be confronting - but it is often the missing step

Exactly - otherwise my mind eats itself alive