Natasha Tori Maru

@Carl-Richard But boss! What can I do but commit to the baseline condition of being a finite knower inside an infinite, shifting reality? I am aware of one banana. Another appears. I see two vaguely half moon shaped, yellow, hand-sized cylinders before me. My new lense adds some pluses and equals in there to remove my being from the codependent nature of subject/object arising.... And begin my journey into the distortion of the true self 🫣

It's so innacurate for anything construction, compliance or methodology related I don't touch it. It's answers sound like they come from a 45 year old dude in midlife crisis who decided to remodel his house. Probably because it is LOL. It's the sum of the collective sperg dregs of trolling on the internet. I never use it for information. Just compiling and formatting. Huge asset there. It's great for meeting minutes.

Should have majored in fine arts. Should have spent more time single.

I'm convinced most of the ignorant dialogue here is purely from inexperience. What you think you want is never what you need. What you think you are attracted to is typically not what you find is best for you. Get off the internet, forums and social media.

Replace 'no seperate self' with vague putdowns around other users ability to comprehend, or 'you haven't experienced that truth yet'. Or implications some users are above others. I see it as the mind applying states and rank that have nothing to do with the codependent arising of subject/object experience. Which remains the guts of infinity/unity/love/emptiness/fullness/awareness becoming aware of self. Perhaps it is more a comment on where others are at in process. But this discussion of infinity is a language and definition issue. Some users are using 'infinity' and 'absolute infinity' to point to something different and they haven't defined how they are using the terms. Just my perception regarding this conversation.

@KoryKat stop spamming your AI slop. You have to disclose AI use in all posts containing AI.

I understand what he is trying to say. I get what a paradox is - I was pointing toward the feeling the spiel came across like Curt would like to disregard paradox to make everything nice and neat 💀

Oh, so they did go into the paradox of it... But it has to be that way. I think this is why I immediately went to thinking it a paradox just pondering your question. Curt thinks a paradox is a cop out? 🥴 And yeah Curt has been rebranding and altering all his previous thumbnails. Not a fan...

Neither 💀 Not knowing it is 🥹

Oh my gosh. What am I watching ...

Sounds like existence being nothing and all things as a paradox. Doesn't sound very surprising either... Empty and full

I don't know about those other discoveries - my observation was just from that context that Curt was asking from. I only speak on absolute infinity not infinity. Which is probably the issue in translation. I have the flaw in my own thinking of coming at things from a mathematical perspective because of University training. I think Curt was definitely rationalising and attempting to apply mathematical proofs frequently in that interview - which lead to the framing of some questions standing on a bunch of presuppositions. He was well meaning - attempting to look at crossovers between science/maths in Leo's worldview. I think it just lead to some questions that weren't offering clarity. I'd have to rewatch it to go further 🙃

If you are talking about a set (the mathematical term I take it, as a bounded conceptual container, as this was the context of Curt's question I recall) of absolute infinities by definition none of those elements within the set can be an absolute infinity. Rendering the question null and void.

I do not see why Leo wouldn't? The reason it might seem like some form of hell to endure is simply because we have a stupid view of time

I am glad, as I did not think I had anything revelatory to add - more I questioning prompt I hoped might steer? I wish I had someone to speak to on these things a long time ago when I was turned a bit inside out during process. AI would have helped too

The literal face of constipated, passive-aggressive 'no-self' discourse

@James123

Theres a few different versions of what is meant by 'consciousness' being tossed around here. Perhaps a clarifying reframe: ‘Can awareness be channeled or localised through a computer system in the same way that it can become localised through us?’ We, as humans, do not even have clarity around localization of awareness.

Isagi is Chess King, very easy to spot. Anyway guys we shouldn't be derailing this thread 🙏

@Ramasta9 I thought you might enjoy this (⁠•⁠‿⁠•⁠) In the backstreets of Northcote:

In addition, please be more conscious of accusations like this openly. Report this sort of stuff to the mods. Don't drag someone else into speculation and tarnish their reputation. We all know the collective damage behind Preety. Do not perpetuate the damage. This applies to myself also.

You don't actually have hard evidence ever though - just circumstantial. In addition I mean, I cannot always take you seriously because you thought @Ramasta9 was bloody Nahm... Facepalm moment You see Preety everywhere - and you are quite mean to her on other platforms. Do you recognise that this is occuring because she is everything you have not yet integrated? You have all the same qualities you denigrated her for, unclaimed. You wouldn't be projecting this and judging all those things if it weren't so. You feel okay judging her because you are so sure in your mind you do nothing like she does.... But it's all there in you causing contraction.

I think some people do not sit well with the paradox of holding knowledge, and simultaneously not knowing. They are determined to sit with only one side of that coin 👾 It is always this AND that, no? ಠ⁠‿⁠ಠ

Astrology is all fucked up intentionally to distort whatever truth is there. There should be 13 signs, not 12. Just look at how fucked up the ancient calenders are trying to accommodate 12. It is very strange so much beautiful and accurate geometry and astrological observations were made.... And then this fucked up 12 that minces it all. 28 days per month. 13 months. Follows the lunar cycle. It's cleaner and more accurate but somewhere along the line historical momentum and human attachment lead to 12.