Natasha Tori Maru

@Carl-Richard I get it. I think we both have a lot of stuff to execute in real life - for me I look at it as 'what's measured makes progress'. So I think naturally there is a huge crossover in balance in real world action married up with philosophy/spirituality. Which has lead to a lot of good SOP's to live by to be effective. And we are spitting these out all over the forum triggering each others antennas One of my biggest projects in life is marrying up spirituality and philosophy to reality. Looking for the crossover. Seeking to validify spiritual insights through executing HARD in reality with physical feedback (materials and structures in construction). I see you doing this with the physical body and your work also!

I think this is true of most seekers. Even on this forum many aren't brave enough to say it like that and brandish themselves as 'truth' seekers. But they only want a particular 'flavour' or truth. Overcoming suffering was what lead me to real spiritual truth seeking - and even then I am way too much of a shit cu** to claim I am a truth seeker. More an.... inner peace seeker? Truth seeking is as loaded as awakening or enlightenment to me. Lot of ego left in me. A LOT. It is just easy to think I have less when compared to normies

Ace. This would be how I imagine a successful format would be. Also this shouldn't even need to be said, but I understand the need to reply. People honour what they invest in - and paying money is putting a testicle on the line. Stop that fickle shit people do.

Ooof, I feel attacked! I admire how raw and honest you are with yourself. Real emotional work was something I avoided for years until one day I found myself immobilized, unable to perform in life. I was then forced to face it all. It was a slow process but 10 years later I am pretty ace I still have some odd old habits that arise. Now I witness them and am merely curious, rather than having the feeling that comes up swamp me. A side effect is I can spot my old behaviour in others a mile away. Even tiny little things are tells of deeper pain. Things I was totally blind to - until I healed. I see it often - but I also check myself for projection. Sort of the inspiration behind my signature too

Melbourne for the music scene - I grew up in one of the mecca areas for it (fitzroy, cliffo, northcote, collingwood) Love that shit <3

This would be the next curve ball that would skin people alive - but Leo would never ask for forgiveness

Surprised you haven't been piled on yet - where all the solipsism peeps at? No more fight left

A lot of salt - ironic as it's probably the other way around 🙃😂

This is beautiful. From my perspective - I am not really great at talking about emotions to help soothe others. My mind jumps too quickly into solving their problem, as my way to care. Often others feel I am being heartless as I will gut the feeling out of the equation looking for a solution for them. When what they wanted was to earnestly express and be heard. And I never mean harm, it is always with good intentions. So to get my truth across, I will communicate in actions. I don't tell someone what will help them, I do it with them by experiencing with them. We do it together. I show the truth in actions. That is how it comes through me to assist others when words are needed for just the emotional expression. In this way I am heard because my truth speaks - just in action. And this communicates better than anything, because it is also shared time with the person where they can also emote. And in no way do I mean force - only if the recipient is happy to do the thing. The thing is to help them. Walks. Going out and buying something to solve a problem. Helping with the cooking. Instead of words 'Eat less junk, touch grass, buy some slippers for cold feet'. I see your actions as speaking truth through the body and time spent together. A truly masculine language and way to give back to the woman who gave you life. Just my interpretation <3

@Elliott @LoneWonderer Yep, and it is really, really insidious. You think that AI is automating and making everything quicker, faster. More efficient. Cloud hosting, images on iOS, Dropbox. All streaming services. Spotify, Youtube, Tiktok, Snapchat, Instagram... It all has a cost and needs a datacentre. And because it isn't directly seen and felt, experienced - we do not think on it. We know there is a cost, but we cannot grasp it. AI is in everything now too. I think it is one of the bigger, overlooked issues. I've done some work in construction around them, and I know exactly what it takes to construct & maintain them.

@WonderSeeker Great advice! Testing out and looking from direct feedback from action in reality is always the key for integration for me. When the insight really 'clicks' into place and becomes a knowing & true understanding, not just information. You can understand all the theory - but deriving from scratch, as you coin - is where the gold to be mined from experience lies

Genuinely. I think we have a lot of the same takes on reality, meaning, truth, mechanisms. So when one of us regurgitates an anecdote or hashes something out - its triggering a thought tangent that naturally runs off from the main topic. And that thought tangent is shared. Channelling maybe? WHO KNOWS, NOT GONNA THINK ABOUT IT. LETS ROLL WITH THE INSANITY Maybe its a crossover in how we perceiving & decisions? INTJ here

Hmmm, there is a lot here! I can see you are attempting to reframe how you view events and history through this cerebral process. And reframing can be very very powerful. I am naturally able to flip frames and perspectives. It is so natural I cannot prevent it happening - my default. I do this to sort of 'data harvest' meaning from past events so I can project future outcomes and discern meaning. Most people need to train this behaviour into themselves. I was blessed/cursed with it inherently (not to brag, it just is what it is). A secondary effect of this process has been that it often will reveal a hidden meaning I have made from an event. And that meaning usually becomes a belief. This is really important to realise as, often times, especially when we are young and developing, we take meaning from events that are not true in the slightest. For example 'I went and spoke to that person - and they rejected me. They acted like I wasted their time - that means I must always have a reason to approach someone'. This leads to internalised shame as a result of taking on the wrong meaning/belief from the event. The real meaning behind the event is 'People are selfish and will choose arbitrary reasons for dismissing you that has nothing to do with you at all' thus not internalizing any shame that we may be bad/wrong. But when we are children, it is way too scary to see the world and others as bad/evil - that is too much to take on mentally! So we tend to blame OURSELVES. It is US who are wrong - evil. That is internalising the shame. And this is tragic, because it can lead to all sorts of issues - namely social anxiety, approach anxiety, and self isolation. I use this example as it is an extremely common one I see in others. So I think your process is powerful - the feeling you are looking into - it is a result of a meaning/belief. But as you can see in the example above, the meanings we make about our world and ourselves are often WRONG. But the feeling remains because the belief remains unconsciously - that is to say - outside of our awareness of it. So it keeps coming up - this feeling. What the hell! Because the belief remains. So feelings are true - they are real - but where they arise from can be the error - the incorrect belief and meaning. This is why allowing feelings and following them is very, very important. They cannot be ignored or else they will come back with more force. More frequently. And they cannot always be trusted in that, the belief hidden behind them may be an error. Realising the above mentally is half the issue. That can be enough for a big 'THUNK!' moment in some and realization. But to integrate that you need to act it out in reality to prove to yourself that meaning is false, and see the truth of the experience that you missed the first time around. So if we roll with the example above - we realise there is some weird SHAME feeling that doesn't seem right - we want to test out this reframe of a past belief to see if it is true. And the only way to do so? Go out and approach others. Again and again. Look at the patterns. How they react. Do they always react to you the same? Even when you approach and have nothing to offer of value? I guarantee you they will not. Sometimes they welcome a stranger. Sometimes you have a laugh with them! They will always act differently. Even if you are the same... so what is going on? It cannot be an issue with you causing their reaction - they always react differently, independent of you. How they perceive you will always be different and really have nothing to do with you! Suddenly there is no shame there, because you are doing nothing wrong. You aren't bothering anyone. The key in the above is the action taken in reality to address the recontextualised view on past events. This will re-emphasise the falsehood of previous beliefs and act to create new memories, and see the truth originally missed. So my question is - as you seem to have contemplation down pat - have you been engaging in reality to generate experience to relook at what was once missed? This it the key to rewiring the mind. The direct feedback taken from reality... in the social domain. Working. Talking. Family. Friends. Exercise etc. It can be confronting - but it is often the missing step

Exactly - otherwise my mind eats itself alive

If there is one thing I have learned with people through life - they NEVER do things just once. If they cut corners somewhere - that energy conservation will be misapplied somewhere else. Not ALWAYS the case - but actions like the above tend to be habits. Shit we do without thinking. When someone is seeking to optimise efficiency in particular, we usually see a compromise in quality in pursuit of outcome. This 'people never do things in isolation' is particularly applicable to behaviour in the social domain with personal boundaries. Even on the forum moderating - you see the same repeat behaviours. As soon as someone is an upstart once - my antennas are up

Gosh, its called a COLD PLUNGE ya'll 😈

Our runaway, rampant, all consuming and thoughtless desire for online entertainment, AI & information. Requiring the hidden costs of incredible power & water consumption via data-centre expansion and hosting. Effectively raping the environment.

An OBE might be more realistic ?

...As a nootropic Tell me your protocols? I've been taking 10g creatine monohydrate (unflavoured) a day (I am a small person) for brain benefits for 2 months. So far: increased focus increase memory retention zero energy dips through the day attention and complex task application + cognitive ability has improved MARKEDLY. Especially scheduling projects (working with lead times, processes, contractor schedules, delivery timing and dependancies) and unusual problems. I am finding solutions faster and able to execute with more efficiency. This process always involves research and learning as well as formulating a solution so it can be quite taxing. mood regulation lowered incidence of negative moods, especially stress resilience I smash a ridiculous amount of water with it. I haven't noticed any side effects - I am not experiencing any anxiety or water retention. For whatever reason my particular physiology is responding to it VERY well. Weights and running capacity are up. I eat only vegetables, fish, eggs, cottage cheese, nuts and some chicken. Occasional red meat. Drink tea and coffee. I do not consume a lot of meat. Other supplements: Liquid iron, K2 + Vit D + Magnesium & fish oil.

I have found most normies consider philosophy to be pretty offensive - it probes their worldview. People use that worldview to hold onto certainty - so it feels destabilising to them, unfortunately. If someone is naturally looking at meaning behind things, mechanisms - I take that as a tell they may be open to a conversation 😁

Necro? Hehehe More curious to get newer posters to have a go 😁

Hehehehehehe The raw majesty, awe, wonder & delight of the substance generated between the interaction of subject & object

Non-duality is only half the story - think of it as a step on the journey. Endless journey. I mean - not a bad place to be ⊂(◉‿◉)つ

@rd5555 ^This We might need some more details to assess. First question - are you attempting to mentally think or reframe your way out of something with a process to fix a mental process gone awry? Taking a wild stab with the above - but a big mistake many make is trying to think your way out of a problem only taking real world action (ie physical or applied) will solve. In any event, we may need a couple of concrete examples to dissect to offer up a solution