Natasha Tori Maru

I suppose there is an issue there with others motivations & intentions

@integral You might be reacting to a loaded context you have pre-existing regarding your interactions with @Emerald Reading per post again in isolation I think you may be reacting in an emotionally charged manner to just one line of the entire post. Thus missing the point. I do think it might be worth exploring why you feel so triggered at being called sexist in attitude. Usually when we are confident and assured there isn't even a need to defend.

They buy them simply to make more money past the point of need. Humans are greedy and that need makes capitalism poo. Humans are part of the system you cannot remove from it. Ideally arguing for capitalism isn't going to work because the whole point is the system isn't being used properly. We are looking at how it is applied here. And it is currently being leveraged to exploit those at the bottom. Have you noticed that many of the solutions you propose on the forum relate to 'start business and make money'? Just a theme I have noticed.

I would probably ask what happened to Carl, and where did he go? 🤪

@Miguel1 no, not a narcissist ❤️ I think you just see the other perspective due to your unique experience!

Looking closer at it the whole thing could be seen as a marketing platform by craftily selecting combatants who are doomed to fail. Validating the person in the hotseat

@LordFall who said I focused on the negative aspect of it? I used it as an example to back up a point. It isn't me who has an issue seeing negativity. In fact, I rather apply my discernment to it as an industry and business. I am quite successful as using the system. I understand it. And a healthy balanced view of the positive / negative will lead to more success than a polarised one. Your denial of the issues inherent to our current form of capitalism are almost verging on toxic positivity. The simple fact of it is - there is corruption. You can't try to wiggle your way around it. There is corruption.

I prompt you to assess the assumption made here, surrounding possible intent. I think it will be an area of growth for you

I didn't say anything like that. Just that both sexes do what you what you claim is attributed to women. Tis not isolated to sex. Nothing I said denied biological difference. Just that in this case there is miss-attribution.

Regarding the *actual* debate I feel like they didn't select opponents well. They could have chosen better IMO. A good skeptic that could steelman the shit.

How about yourself? I've run 2 business' - current one is commercial construction and quite successful. When you really run a business - you learn how corrupt the system is and how it runs on exploitation. You have to use that same system against itself to win, which just further fucks over those at the bottom. All the leverage points sit where weakness is, and almost every business needs to exploit them to survive. Construction is a fucken REAL business and one of the most corrupt. It's also the bedrock of humanity. There's nothing you can put forth that will change my mind after having worked this industry for half a decade.

You know... often in marketing and business they sit people down and showcase a product. Employees will be asked to comment - 'Yeah the cup is great, beautiful outlines. Great colour' And remark it is a great product. Top notch and they would buy it for sure. It is going to be a best seller. Then you slap on $10.00 and ask them to purchase the cup - suddenly all those singing praises can't put their money where their mouth is. What people say they want when dating or looking for a relationship is actually NOT usually what they end up 'selecting'. The wisdom here is not to let some of these dialogues/metrics limit you. People say one thing, and do something completely different.

I live alone and very very insular. I do not have much need for general conversation or socialising. But I have had a LOT of experience when younger. Like extroverted social / family mode up until around 35 years old. I just naturally grew out of the requirement for so much variety. I spend most of my free time in meditation, physical practice, nature, reading/research and drawing/art. But my work is quite counter to my insular and peaceful homelife. I work in a family owned business that requires extensive socialisation. Additionally, construction is fast paced and based on people. Problems, always problems. Stress everywhere. So while I live alone with my dog in a very hermit like life on my time, outside of that is 100% people. Not sure where I fit hermit-wise really. If I had the choice (no financial pressure) I would dedicate all my time to inner work, art & body being.

A lot of people get sold on dreams and magical thinking from individuals at the top of the system. I wish them well and hope they make breakthroughs. But I am always looking for the grift. And the is ALWAYS a grift Shhh, don't tell him about how money works - popping the balloon of happy ignorance

I view this as sexist also. This is not isolated to sex.

It is very very head heavy here IMO. I view many users bypassing core emotional issues and attempting to heal on their own (or through spirituality). In reality plain cognitive behavioural therapy is what 70% of the forum needs. But there are many here who simply have no idea how skewed their thinking is. ChatGPT is actually terrible for this in general - it actually does the OPPOSITE of what therapy does - really challenge thinking and belief by pointing out biases. There is a belief that CBT won't be able to assist. In addition most users just need to experience a genuine connection with a human being. You could simply be feeling the lack of emotional intelligence here. Which is very very true. And to be clear I do not think users come here for emotional growth and learning. But that is what they genuinely NEED to progress. It can be frustrating having conversations where you know you can help with thinking loops, but the block by the user is so immense. Arrogance with regard to intellect is the biggest 'vibration' and block here. Aging will humble 99%.

Gotta say I agree with this - would like to see a genuine answer.

Get ready for half the forum to pounce on you, compulsively

@LordFall You could, but at the end of the day one has to use their own discernment & look at the picture wholistically.

I'll have a think about it

@NewKidOnTheBlock The problem is blackpill involves a lot of cognitive bias. The nature of these sorts of slinky thinking loops is that one has no idea their thinking is skewed.

Because it is not what you really want. You want a different circumstance. A change. That doesn't necessitate self harm or death to achieve. These things do not lead to escape.

@theoneandnone Do you have any professionals you speak to, regarding development and mental health? Love and hugs ❤️

@mmKay Thank you for sharing this! And thanks all. I really enjoy the radical open-mindedness. BACK TO UFOs

The basics he promotes are really good - 90% of all you need. And it is a good reminder to many who have forgotten these basics, or are so mired in technology they forget. He just has some whack shit going on as well But we all do, so...