Natasha Tori Maru

Fuck, this was a great read - thank you so much! Appreciate you

Creatine has had some big nootropic effects for me - let us know how you go with it! From what I gather, creatine works on the ATP system - which is the molecule your cells 'spend' to do everything. It helps recycle ATP. ATP does basically everything - movement, blood pumping, fires nerves, build proteins, thinking even Thanks YOU TOO! I am a very curious and disciplined person, so I don't mind experimenting. Also spirituality HELPS because you do not attach so much to routines or fixed ways. So experiments that would make others feel deprived, or require sacrifice, do not phase me so much. My curiosity overrides pain and sometimes even fear... so I have to be careful there haha

@Someone here Well you are doomed to suffer then, and in all the unnecessary ways we human beings cause. I recommend 'Ending Unnecessary Suffering' by Peter Ralston. Gluck

Pain is physical for sure. Suffering CAN be physical - as in it can be described as the broader experience that encapsulates pain - but you can have suffering without pain. So I would posit these are not synonymous. So are you sure suffering is totally physical? If I suffer from sadness - what is going on there? Is sadness physical in its origin?

Exactly. That book explains it. We do it. The issue is people suffer huge ego backlash at the thought they might be responsible for it. And don't get me wrong, suffering occurs because of survival - but there is A LOT of suffering generated as a result of the social domain that can be deleted.

Now you are back on track - as you are meant to ask these questions - so that IS the point! My point was that suffering isn't physical. Do you think it is physical? If it is not - what is it?

It points to the fact it is in the mind - and could, therefore, be illusory. It is prompting investigation. So combative aren't we? All this shit is a word game. It is all just pointers. Nothing said - not even a word, is what it is. Light can mean so much without context - light weight, turn on the light, light sleeper, light shade. All words are just games and pointers, so what is your point? Hmmmm?

@ExploringReality Yep my weight went up - but curiously not felt as water weight. As in, when I am approaching my monthly season I retain about 2kgs of water weight. It makes you feel blobby. Almost as if you got fatter overnight. You walk and legs shake - think homer when he gets tapped on his stomach and it ripples like a wave 'Look at the flubber fly!' Creatine, curiously, does not have this effect. But my weight went up 1kg, so I think it is intramuscular! My legs are slightly larger and shoulders also. I do a combo of approx 25kms running a week, some sprinting, and weights at the gym. I don't gas out as easily so I can push really hard with creatine. And I am a small girl 163cms, 48kg - so body changes are fun because I can see it rapidly on a little frame. I only drink coffee and tea - no other gym type drinks.

I typically fast until 11am then eat from 11-6pm. I have done some extended fasts (5 days max) and I love it for the clarity. The amount of bullshit time spend on shopping, planning, prepping, cooking, eating... not to mention THINKING about food is crazy when its removed as an option. So I use the time for real hard spiritual work as my brain is somewhat empty-er than normal I also love it for interception - It always trains me back to being able to perceive precisely when energy systems flip from glycogenic to fat burning. Similar to running - you know when you go for a run, the first 10-15 minutes is a headfuck. I always want to stop, mental fight, then after that I am home free and can go for 15kms without even noticing. It's the energy system flipping from anaerobic to cardiovascular. I can feel when the energy systems of the body change to a 'backup' during a fast, so to speak. I have also experimented with fasting every second day - I just make sure to eat back the calories. Speaking as a woman, this didn't work as well for me hormonally. Men have WAAYYYY more options

I am sorry to hear this tale - it sounds like she wasn't as mature previously and now has grown since. Bad boundaries mean we are not always as honest as we should be in the pursuit and prioritization of harmony. Which is really a fear of loss and an attachment 'If I tell the truth I do not like this, and won't allow it, how will I be perceived? Will I be rejected? I do not want to have negativity' etc. When we grow in maturity we understand the negative is just as needed as the positive when striving for a good outcome. It is ultimately coming down to: Do you pursue further self exploration through substances, or do you pursue further self exploration in romantic contrast with another? Seek clarity around your values. Young people really dislike this but - nothing lasts. What do you think you will regret with each choice? Her, or experiences with substances? I personally do not recommend compromising your integrity by lying and hiding this from her - this is the exact opposite of what you want to achieve in a mature romantic partnership. You want union, not division. And lies only serve to rend the connection.

You done?

@theoneandnone Same same I think it is a comet from what I have listened to - that is me fitting in the most likely proposition based in historical data and events. In addition, I am so weary these days due to sources being corrupt - now more than ever I do not know who to trust, or what data is actually true. High entropy is eating into everything internet and media wise...

@BlueOak So to sum this up - you are saying force is the cause, energy the result? You have inserted a lot of language - which isn't necessary bad - but I felt it did not add to the understanding for me. Do you consider a decision a force? I ask because strictly speaking - force is an phenomenon of material reality. It isn't a 'thing' so to speak, more a way to describe how material reality interacts. A decision can FEEL like a force because it sets things in motion. IE the instant we decide, we have 'applied a directional push' to our lives. Before, we were in a potential (energy waiting). After this decision we have committed to a vector - force applied. But experientially I think it is more - Decision (director, or vector), motivation or will (energy, capacity), action (force, actual push). With the reasoning above I would argue a decision isn't a force by itself. But it can act as a chooser of the direction for where our force and energy will go.... I say force never worked for me because it was the decision - the wisdom to know when to effect change - that was the mechanism responsible for my success in say, building a Dialysis Centre (a real example of a completed build I worked on). But the decision and energy movement cannot occur without the force needed to 'push'. So they work in tandem to influence reality. This is why I do not think it is any more fundamental than energy or decisions. Especially if we consider energy as 'raw potential'. In addition - forces I work (construction) with have opposing forces. A decision does not carry this equal & opposite mechanism. If I decide to take action, the decision doesn't have an opposing force - it is merely the prior form of the action taking shape. All of my work is dealing with the reality of forces! Materials and integrity are the core of building successfully. And no worries with the above - just pointing out that you shouldn't need to insert the fact you have a Y chromosome into the conversation. You shouldn't dismiss a person or their views because of their form. You only limit yourself - you have no idea in actuality what they have to say or whether it is useful to you. To act like you do know at all, is false.

Let us try to point to suffering? I can find pain in my body - my fucken elbow is angry at me after it made contact (quite ungracefully!) with the doorframe. I can point to the pain sensation. But if you try to point to suffering ....

@TheEnigma Bit of irony here...

This is my entire spiritual process 😃 All my big realisations and integrations have happened following lots of contemplation. Then going out into reality, at work, engaging in the social domain, washing the dishes even! And looking for where this is true in reality. In my experience. The concepts are good - pointers. Then the big 'holy shit' moments are when you see it in your experience. Then you realise all the masters are speaking in zen riddles - and everything they said you read takes on A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MEANING!

I think psychedelics can act to destroy beliefs. But more often than not, I see people have an experience that takes the ego with them into it, rather than stripping it away. It's the meaning attributed to the trips that is to be wary of. Our interpretation is often done through the lense of the false self. I believe that the realisation of oneness has to happen in a sober state for it to be integrated, else it is a temporary state change. To be clear I am not against psychedelics - done em all but retired. They just didn't do much for me personally. They didn't act as the best pointer for me.

Gives another dimension to truth when we reflect on how lies corrupt our experience This also goes back to Leo's blog posts about lies - and how they are sometimes a necessity, especially within the social domain. But we must be extremely conscious of when we do so, to avoid the effects on the experience we generate. Low conscious behaviour is lying thinking we can get away with it, because the consequences aren't as apparent like putting our hand on a hot stovetop. But the lies have a profound effect internally, and this becomes absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to ignore when you are of a high enough level of consciousness.

@Davino I would make my claim to integrity being existential using the term 'existential' as relating to and of reality. Looking at matter, materials, we can see that lack of integrity lowers strength, lifespan and capabilities of a material; concrete without rebar has less material integrity. The atoms of a diamond are aligned - carbon in a diamond lattice, so it is strong with high integrity. As opposed to the atoms in carbon, laying flat and unaligned. Brittle and fragile. Chipped easily, breaks in half with little effort. So lies do this to us also - our internal is not aligned with our behaviour; so we become brittle, wear easily, cannot hold up to external, daily life stressors. Internal misalignment destroys our integrity. This fucks up experience; anxiety, doubt, worry and low energy enter when we aren't aligned like the carbon atoms in the diamond. The world outside is inside us - and integrity exististentially is reflected within human experience. This is why I think it is no moral matter, it is existential. And why we can find material integrity examples littered in reality that directly reflect our personal integrity, and how lying effects this. Just my thoughts and how I arrived at this

Very new??? Just one example - the series Entourage even featured the furry fetish. Episode 07 or series 04 'The Day Fuckers' that aired 2007: https://youtu.be/RqkoyMQpvRc?si=xi_jEaNMMWY44yck Kids in primary school I knew talked about it - which is where I first heard about it (90s). Communities been around for a while.

@theoneandnone Don't get me started I'll derail this thread (but I like to think as much as I derail I do steer it back to UFO's !) I have thought a lot about this - and I think I align with your thoughts that they aren't within this 3D space or 'dimension' as you term it. I consider them coming from something we are totally NOT aware of that is part of the totality of reality. Within humanities reality, but in terms of our capabilities of perceptions - completely outside of it. A good example would be birds or creatures that have evolved receptors for types of energy detection we do not. IE ultraviolet spectrum electromagnetic radiation - or infrared. Even ultrasonic sound. Animals (bats, birds) have developed senses for these. Imagine if we could see infrared! Ultraviolet! Or, see gamma rays, X-rays, alpha or beta particles! These are parts of our reality we know about - but they remain TOTALLY outside our experience. I think this goes right back to ontology - we don't know what the fuck all this is at all - we just seem to be able to grasp mechanisms of action. The UFO phenomenon is a weird one, because we don't know what it is (which is standard for us, it's just that science makes lots of claims to ontology but when you really dig it has NFI and makes all sorts of assumptions), AND we do not know how it works. When you get to deeper levels of truth along the spiritual path - you tend to inevitably get to consciousness/awareness being fundamental. And you realize how much of our existence is actually tied up in a projection of a cerebral illusion. IE the illusion of the self. Most of our awareness is funneled into this illusion. So when it drops away, the false self, we realize this experience, this qualia, is precisely how it needs to be, and that we CHOOSE this. And that there is NO other place more exciting, filled with wonder, filled with divine ONENESS. That unity you feel when you are pure awareness and being - oneness - that is love. We reach out searching for something greater than us, only to realize pure being and experience and right HERE is what we want! Spirituality points RIGHT back at this reality. And it is all tied together through unity, oneness... LOVE! And every person who has reported experience with UFOs, including Jake Barber, all report love being key. Being the power that reaches out to encapsulate and make contact. That they are flooded with love. Being. Consciousness. There are MANY reports from people who engage in CE5 and 'calling' UAP and they always use love, unity, oneness. So, I think that love is the key. There is connection there in a way we are yet to fully comprehend. Love as oneness. One with the ship. One with dimensions and perceptions outside our own. We only fail to engage these other dimensions because we don't love enough. And human's are exceptionally good at corrupting Love! Love is a deeper language of connection we have yet to understand mechanistically, so we cannot use it... yet Even the movie Intersteller touches on this - the key to gravity manipulation and Cooper making it out of the tesseract is the love/oneness/unity he has with Murph. The eternal connection. Anyway, I digress, and this is all just my strange thoughts on the matter with no real experiential foundation

The reality these individuals reside in is such a microcosm of the infinite. Even more so than our typical, limited one! It can never be a shock they have lost touch with anything, live in delusion, and their actions reflect the tiny echo chamber of it all... The result of a pathologically sick society

There are elements to survival that create suffering that are harder to understand. So it might be easier to seperate this into the suffering we self generate as a result of, say, the social domain. Mostly, suffering is generated within the mind as a result of resisting an experience. The illusory self is the source of this - and most of the time this suffering is generated through the 'imagining' of an experience. Past/future imaginings. Pain is not the same as suffering. But it is when you think about the future, the past, or yourself that you suffer. When you seek or wish to avoid an outcome. Desire. It might be hard to understand this topic unless you have realised your true nature - the illusion of the self/ego. It is not enough to understand the concept, it has to be realised. Without this, you might think this explanation lacerates you from your humanity: https://youtu.be/694aosiIiIg?si=UTvblsXJiS1-J2ml

I've been across it - but I don't know what to think really. There is a lot of disinformation. I've just come across so many past statements referring to 'a huge alien ship will be announced 'mid-late 2025' as a distraction'. And they all refer to this. So I am skeptical. Not in that I don't doubt it is out there, but I cannot come to any conclusions it is an alien/UAP craft 😊

@Davino I agree. Integrity is existential - not moral. You fuck up your experience when you lie. And we always lie when we want something - or want to avoid something. So it's selfish survival shit. Ralston is great on this: