Natasha Tori Maru

Yeppp - I don't know about your experiences, but this is amplified into giga-delusion territory if you take them together. Then, not only is it an internal recursive thought joyride, but someone else is there to reinforce all the delusion. TBH interpersonal issues of any kind make trips hell for me. It just seems to be this area I have trouble with while using. Retired from psychedelics now, still didn't lose the obsession with men. Love them, but stumble.

My current feelings? The Map is not the Territory.

Yes, I felt they could have touched on the subject and left it at that. They all felt rather compelled to insert their personal anecdotes - which is okay. But it did turn into an echo chamber. More balance in perspectives needed for sure!

Intrinsic Joy = Being x Meaning ² It is missing the Lorentz factor!! (γ or, lower case gamma) - this element describes the effect of 'Intrinsic Joy' as it approaches equality with 'Meaning'', where meaning is a universal, natural constant. Let: γ = 1 / √(1 - (Intrinsic Joy)²/(Meaning)²) Therefore: Intrinsic Joy = y x Being x Meaning ² As Intrinsic Joy approaches equality with Meaning, y increases significantly, due to the action of Lorentz factor. This means the total Intrinsic Joy required to increase Being also increases dramatically. In this limit, as Intrinsic Joy approaches equality with Meaning, an infinite amount of Intrinsic Joy would be required to reach ultimate Meaning. This means it is impossible for any Intrinsic Joy with Being to exceed or equal Meaning. In other words, Being forever increases as it approaches Meaning, as Intrinsic Joy is the sum of where it begun, and where it is going. Intrinsic Joy and Being equivalency! Note: I just wanted to eat dinner, Carl. But I felt a great compulsion of intrinsic joy in providing meaning in this moment of pure being <3

Haha fuck it Just collapse all the threads and forums into one singularity Just one consciousness jabbering to itself

Requesting you leave solipsism out of this area. Damn, this solipsism shitfight is bleeding into multiple threads across the forums!

Are you okay if I PM you?

For myself - recursive thought feedback loops - oh my gosh! These are an issue when psychedelics are used in a repeated fashion without grounded integration. It REALLY helps if you have someone you trust 100%, to honestly give you a kick up the arse when you have blasted your brain into orbit !

I actually loved this breakdown of the podcast - although it might be controversial regarding masculine/feminine roles. I actually align with it regarding letting the masculine / feminine partners sink into their respective roles. Would enjoy others thoughts:

Swinging in with a chonk of truth here. Unless you have experienced this, again like an awakening or an orgasm, you just cannot conceive of it. You can lay in another's arms, breathing in unison, as one, in meditation. Pneuma. It will induce such spiritual ecstasy so as to shake the foundations of your very being. Better than any orgasm. Making love while embodying that state makes normal lovemaking a joke in comparison, it feels like a mechanical, soulless process. What you create in that space is something larger than the sum of its parts. Again, needs direct experience Agree here. I am confused when Leo tries to inoculate himself against communion/sex and spirituality. And collective consciousness. I just feel that compartmentalization is robbing him of more truthiness.

Jeez thanks for sharing this - you open yourself to ridicule being this vulnerable. There are many of us experiencers who keep it secret our whole lives. Culture is slowly accepting this narrative, but it's slow. I've only had experiences with Mantis beings. They told me they control human perception. They make us see whatever they like to hide themselves. That human minds have been 'tweaked' to enable easy control, but there are some humans they steer clear of that their perception 'hijacks' do not work on. Also that there should be no fear because our consciousness cannot be touched by Others, if we are unwilling. They told me they love humans for our wonder, our suprise, our lack of telepathy. We cannot connect to each other directly, so our interactions are unique. We are a 'voice species' so we can experience more fully without telepathy. Anywho I draw no conclusions from this, just some strange perceptions of mine ☺️ The terror involved initially has really faded with time

This is very astute and self aware. Theres a famous saying that is relevant here 'If a business supplies something for free, your data, attention & engagement is the charge' in other words those business' are using YOU for revenue. Your attention is your most powerful asset. Beneath this you are unveiling all the insidious ways culture tries to embed into you beliefs that you need to be a certain 'way'. No. You just need to be a based motherfucker - provided you do no harm to others of course. A compassionate based motherfucker 😜 Annnnnnd this is just my opinion, so here you see, I am complicit with point No.1 !!! Was this necessary? Maybe not. My aim was to make you laugh and feel empowered on your inner path, free of these veils 💜

I actually cannot stop laughing

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It sounds like a dopamine purge! Although I know processes like this do so, so much more. How are you feeling a few days out? Has the clarity and joy remained?

To be clear - I did mean the challenge that is life in general. As a point of unity, so we feel less alone in overcoming challenges. Also to empower as I really believe in humans But I can see how it can be misread. Edited the post for clarity. And your points are correct. @Rezo gelenidze - I hope you don't take what I wrote to imply hopelessness, as life does change and can get easier.

It would be a good one, as many people face the issue. But it requires vulnerability - and you are in a precarious situation with that. I do not envy you, as personal experiences can be used against you. Most especially when you share vulnerable experiences. Also most especially when harpies with chains be swinging in your forum spaces

I'm in the same boat - wading through shit like molasses grinding away. It doesn't always get easier, it certainly can - but I can tell you - you get stronger. <3 *edited for clarity*

This man, this - someone needs to walk in swinging a 36" chain and wup the reality back into them!

My opinion also.

It is possible. To my experience - you cannot have any jealousy or possessiveness in your character as a woman to have a relationship like that. And that is a rare quality in most people. There needs to be absolute transparency and clear rules and boundaries. From the man's perspective - its a lot - to be so attentive to 2 women's emotional needs. But it can work when the mans sexual needs are satisfied by the novelty and variety in his sex life, as he can be so gratified he has boundless love, care & energy to pass back to the women.

Do you think the wife could possibly be brainwashing and gaslighting herself here, as evidenced by her perpetual need to 'work through accepting' the situation? Her initial reaction was negative to the situation. I do acknowledge you prioritise her choice as being sovereign and willing. Her need to 'work through' acceptance displays some friction and negativity. I've been in open relationships and they were effortless and in no way did I need to experience anything she has. This negativity she experiences continually is contradicting everything. It speaks to it being unconscious.

It's a challenging topic and thought provoking topic. Even more challenging to be aware of the behaviour judgements we make when assessing.

Tasty bias morsels I do see