Natasha Tori Maru

I think it's both! Anonymity can be freeing, but there is still ego going into the anonymous persona (that I see!). It is like another layer to the already false self - now we have a new false e-self! But with slatterings of truth in there... This thread is revealing humanities completely bizzare behaviour surrounding this self / ego ay? 😏 I use my personal face and name because I have no need to hide also @Yimpa And it does help with accountability!

@TheEnigma Bit of irony here...

I believe he was banned, or had privileges revoked, as a result of recruiting to his own forum or chat space. He has been on the path for a while - I think he posts over on Nahm's forum. @Sugarcoat I enjoy your view of interactions here! I am somewhat more pessimistic - I think this space gives people the time and energy to craft a version of themselves that is, in a way, attempting to control others perceptions of them. For who knows what end... But we all do this to a degree ! I find that I generate more candid authenticity from others in real life. In addition, I am much more jovial and likeable in real life (I think anyway), than on the forum. Without my personal expression to go with my words, I can be a bit savage or prickly sounding But I do agree about the topics here, and that we are freer to express within the spiritual domain in this space

This is my entire spiritual process 😃 All my big realisations and integrations have happened following lots of contemplation. Then going out into reality, at work, engaging in the social domain, washing the dishes even! And looking for where this is true in reality. In my experience. The concepts are good - pointers. Then the big 'holy shit' moments are when you see it in your experience. Then you realise all the masters are speaking in zen riddles - and everything they said you read takes on A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MEANING!

I think psychedelics can act to destroy beliefs. But more often than not, I see people have an experience that takes the ego with them into it, rather than stripping it away. It's the meaning attributed to the trips that is to be wary of. Our interpretation is often done through the lense of the false self. I believe that the realisation of oneness has to happen in a sober state for it to be integrated, else it is a temporary state change. To be clear I am not against psychedelics - done em all but retired. They just didn't do much for me personally. They didn't act as the best pointer for me.

Gives another dimension to truth when we reflect on how lies corrupt our experience This also goes back to Leo's blog posts about lies - and how they are sometimes a necessity, especially within the social domain. But we must be extremely conscious of when we do so, to avoid the effects on the experience we generate. Low conscious behaviour is lying thinking we can get away with it, because the consequences aren't as apparent like putting our hand on a hot stovetop. But the lies have a profound effect internally, and this becomes absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to ignore when you are of a high enough level of consciousness.

@Davino I would make my claim to integrity being existential using the term 'existential' as relating to and of reality. Looking at matter, materials, we can see that lack of integrity lowers strength, lifespan and capabilities of a material; concrete without rebar has less material integrity. The atoms of a diamond are aligned - carbon in a diamond lattice, so it is strong with high integrity. As opposed to the atoms in carbon, laying flat and unaligned. Brittle and fragile. Chipped easily, breaks in half with little effort. So lies do this to us also - our internal is not aligned with our behaviour; so we become brittle, wear easily, cannot hold up to external, daily life stressors. Internal misalignment destroys our integrity. This fucks up experience; anxiety, doubt, worry and low energy enter when we aren't aligned like the carbon atoms in the diamond. The world outside is inside us - and integrity exististentially is reflected within human experience. This is why I think it is no moral matter, it is existential. And why we can find material integrity examples littered in reality that directly reflect our personal integrity, and how lying effects this. Just my thoughts and how I arrived at this

Very new??? Just one example - the series Entourage even featured the furry fetish. Episode 07 or series 04 'The Day Fuckers' that aired 2007: https://youtu.be/RqkoyMQpvRc?si=xi_jEaNMMWY44yck Kids in primary school I knew talked about it - which is where I first heard about it (90s). Communities been around for a while.

@theoneandnone Don't get me started I'll derail this thread (but I like to think as much as I derail I do steer it back to UFO's !) I have thought a lot about this - and I think I align with your thoughts that they aren't within this 3D space or 'dimension' as you term it. I consider them coming from something we are totally NOT aware of that is part of the totality of reality. Within humanities reality, but in terms of our capabilities of perceptions - completely outside of it. A good example would be birds or creatures that have evolved receptors for types of energy detection we do not. IE ultraviolet spectrum electromagnetic radiation - or infrared. Even ultrasonic sound. Animals (bats, birds) have developed senses for these. Imagine if we could see infrared! Ultraviolet! Or, see gamma rays, X-rays, alpha or beta particles! These are parts of our reality we know about - but they remain TOTALLY outside our experience. I think this goes right back to ontology - we don't know what the fuck all this is at all - we just seem to be able to grasp mechanisms of action. The UFO phenomenon is a weird one, because we don't know what it is (which is standard for us, it's just that science makes lots of claims to ontology but when you really dig it has NFI and makes all sorts of assumptions), AND we do not know how it works. When you get to deeper levels of truth along the spiritual path - you tend to inevitably get to consciousness/awareness being fundamental. And you realize how much of our existence is actually tied up in a projection of a cerebral illusion. IE the illusion of the self. Most of our awareness is funneled into this illusion. So when it drops away, the false self, we realize this experience, this qualia, is precisely how it needs to be, and that we CHOOSE this. And that there is NO other place more exciting, filled with wonder, filled with divine ONENESS. That unity you feel when you are pure awareness and being - oneness - that is love. We reach out searching for something greater than us, only to realize pure being and experience and right HERE is what we want! Spirituality points RIGHT back at this reality. And it is all tied together through unity, oneness... LOVE! And every person who has reported experience with UFOs, including Jake Barber, all report love being key. Being the power that reaches out to encapsulate and make contact. That they are flooded with love. Being. Consciousness. There are MANY reports from people who engage in CE5 and 'calling' UAP and they always use love, unity, oneness. So, I think that love is the key. There is connection there in a way we are yet to fully comprehend. Love as oneness. One with the ship. One with dimensions and perceptions outside our own. We only fail to engage these other dimensions because we don't love enough. And human's are exceptionally good at corrupting Love! Love is a deeper language of connection we have yet to understand mechanistically, so we cannot use it... yet Even the movie Intersteller touches on this - the key to gravity manipulation and Cooper making it out of the tesseract is the love/oneness/unity he has with Murph. The eternal connection. Anyway, I digress, and this is all just my strange thoughts on the matter with no real experiential foundation

The reality these individuals reside in is such a microcosm of the infinite. Even more so than our typical, limited one! It can never be a shock they have lost touch with anything, live in delusion, and their actions reflect the tiny echo chamber of it all... The result of a pathologically sick society

There are elements to survival that create suffering that are harder to understand. So it might be easier to seperate this into the suffering we self generate as a result of, say, the social domain. Mostly, suffering is generated within the mind as a result of resisting an experience. The illusory self is the source of this - and most of the time this suffering is generated through the 'imagining' of an experience. Past/future imaginings. Pain is not the same as suffering. But it is when you think about the future, the past, or yourself that you suffer. When you seek or wish to avoid an outcome. Desire. It might be hard to understand this topic unless you have realised your true nature - the illusion of the self/ego. It is not enough to understand the concept, it has to be realised. Without this, you might think this explanation lacerates you from your humanity: https://youtu.be/694aosiIiIg?si=UTvblsXJiS1-J2ml

I've been across it - but I don't know what to think really. There is a lot of disinformation. I've just come across so many past statements referring to 'a huge alien ship will be announced 'mid-late 2025' as a distraction'. And they all refer to this. So I am skeptical. Not in that I don't doubt it is out there, but I cannot come to any conclusions it is an alien/UAP craft 😊

@Davino I agree. Integrity is existential - not moral. You fuck up your experience when you lie. And we always lie when we want something - or want to avoid something. So it's selfish survival shit. Ralston is great on this:

@BlueOak I think defining this better will help. How do you define force vs energy? In addition, I would appreciate you forgetting the fact my avatar and name appears feminine. If I did not have this appearance you would not have responded as such. So, do not 😏 I know something of force. Experientially. You might say more than most. I work in construction. I design doors, hardware, security and structural engineering (to name a small portion). I manage construction of hospitals and science facilities. I suspect I know more of force than you realise.

Force has never worked for me in attempting success. Leverage and wisdom - yes. Ultimately, I have no control.

Good point - leads to wet noodle syndrome

@LoneWonderer Oh wow haha - I was just totally shooting in the dark with my whack thoughts... thanks for the shares. My brother also recommended Alien Earth, and then he too said it turned to turds... But I am SO tempted because I adore the alien franchise (even the poo). I can tolerate poo though - if its slapped with the Alien flavour >.<

Haha welllll.... lets go wild. Say they are operated from consciousness. If we recognise that all that appears in our awareness - perceptions, thoughts, feelings - is within us. Which is to say - we never experience a sunset out as the sun, as the water, as the sky - we experience our perception of the sunset WITHIN us (through raw light to eyes, sound to ears, smell to nose sensations). Reality is within us AS our consciousness. Why couldn't we be able project our awareness (or being) out to encapsulate a ship and experience control of a ship through pure awareness? After all the ship is within us. Within our awareness. Like the ship in the original Alien film with the space jokey as part of the ship - or Battlestar Galactica's base stars, or Farscapes living ships? I wonder what that could unlock operating a ship as a total being at the consciousness level of whatever appears behind atoms, quarks etc Cool imaginings

I think this also ties into discernment vs judgement!

I think when there is an emotional attachment or reaction to our ideas/beliefs being challenged, it is VERY difficult for us to clearly see this. So it becomes impossible to filter it out in language expression as it is somewhat unconscious. I do not exclude myself from this! And Solipsism is just a bomb of a topic, so I am not surprised Openness is a rare diamond of a quality !

It is a really good way to operate IMO. At its base, it is being able to entertain and understand a view without any ego attachment to it. Similar to the the ability to reframe and view things from different angles - it gives you an edge when looking at complex topics. In particular, I think for concepts that span into the realms of paradoxes, strangeloops, tautologies, koans, contradictions, self-referential loops & oxymorons it is a HUGE boon. You can pick apart ideas and concepts without being limited, as you aren't attempting to verify a belief. Simply observing and thinking without looking to affirm some view. This can only be a boon in truth seeking, as generally, we see what we want to see. And seek to verify beliefs, rather than see truth.

I dislike DOACEO in general but this was great! Cheers

🎯 Agree with this take

Luis Elizondo also did the old 'publish a book' marketing trollop. Any of these government workers coming out making statements - this is controlled disclosure. Controlled. IE put through some filter that is obscuring shit. They are only saying - p - r - e - c - i - s - e - l - y - what they are allowed to say. Anyway ON TO THE TOPIC AT HAND! This was a good watch if anyone is keen: https://youtu.be/XG04I_vtQFA?si=DPxIMAdYugIVDTtk I never even considered the fact that these objects coming to a full stop amounting to 1000G force stoppage/momentum termination is actually mind blowing. Where the fuck did the energy go?

You were a bit unfairly targeted I think I am happy to wear responsibility as I was going for laughs with colourful language. I don't actually think there was any abuse of the mod position. As moderators we are allowed to have views and ideas. And I happen to have a lot of overlap with your views and dissecting users beliefs. The mod tag is a coincidence. But something to watch for as this can be misunderstood. In my defence I roasted the ideas/beliefs, there wasn't any namecalling. Crop dusting of sarcasm here and there...