Natasha Tori Maru

From the not knowing 🌱 @ivankiss don't be a little mutant, unless you want some of mommies zen stick through the neck I do think though, that if we are going the nonduality route, investigating duality and using concepts are needed to point to various parts of our experience we overlook. Especially for those of us heavy on intellect. But I think you know this, and the aim of this paragraph was to highlight the fact that more concepts were present potentially not aware of? 🫠 For myself personally, I think forcing nondual talk all the time is silly. Some people benefit from concepts and ideas initially. Some benefit from having to dig into the meat of a statement that isn't clear - at first. It's like walking up steps that are non complaint: each step is a fucken metre high and you have to climb and fall. Sometimes there is no hope to get up! The initial concepts used as nondual pointers are a little mobile scaffold to help. So once there you can kick the scaffold away and see the real unobstructed view. Rip the cataracts off. Like learning a system before you can break it. All these different methods should end up with a full deconstruction in the end, but everyone gets there in a different way. Some teachers get us to W O R K for it. Some learners can't do it that way. Anyway bit of a digress there, sorry Carl wasn't really at you!

We reflect on what it is that is witnessing the thoughts. WHAT is perceiving the feelings. What is witnessing that? Those things do not make up our substance. You have a thought - it comes, it goes. What is watching that? And if that watching can contain any thought, any perception - what must it be to be able to do this without any effects on the thought or perception? The subject in isolation with all objects removed.

@LoneWonderer I remain totally open with this topic because it could be - as you say - anything. I do see some sketchy stuff though, intermingled with curious reports. Cheers for the share !

What I class as UFOs is actually an unidentified flying object. As in - these are highly likely to be private contractor owned drone tech as a possibility (among other possibilities). I mean unidentified as in, no one has come out to claim them. I do think this gets lost sometimes and twisted in with aliens etc But whatever these government boys are saying publicly - they have been allowed and cleared to say these things. Which is why I think it is a giant red flag.

@Mafortu I think what you pointed to in your reads on the situation crossed over a lot with mine. AND I think it probably wasn't apparent I like remaining open with these sorts of things - I think I came at this with an interest that bordered on aggressive because of the derisive tone you injected into the post. In addition, I did wonder why you posted - what could your intentions be if you weren't aiming to convince anyone?

@Mafortu You answered above - and I did ask

@Mafortu I am laughing because I agree with a lot of the above - but I draw no conclusions as you have. I do not know I wonder why you chose to answer someone else though

@Jowblob My speculations align with what you have rapped on above

@Mafortu The burden of disproof. My experience is different. Time will reveal all.

Yes okay, all well and good. Are you going to explain this and lay out the facts for us all, or act like a gatekeeper of some grand mystery that has the potential to reveal precisely what this phenomenon is? Lots of air and dancing around anything substantial in the post.

Deep sleep.

Yep, this is the Big One. This contemplation eats Just awareness.

@ivankiss the trolling intermingled with the haphazard splattering of earnestness 🤪 He's flirting with the fire. Will he be a good boy

I can deal with some light - but not a lot. 1hr no light kindle or books before sleep. Phone is on flight mode. I wake at 4:50AM every day so I am outside while the sun rises (walking dog + construction 7am start). Sleep by 9pm. I like some sound and need a cold bedroom. Like, really cold. In addition - I can't eat within 3 hours of sleep time because it will fuck up the whole process

Where's the temperature control? Amateur

@Someone here You might like this from John Wheeler - an excerpt from one of his writings. I find you are sensing the futility of spirituality and life. How it all fits. What might be its purpose and application. It came up in my feed randomly and I thought of you: I do not know if you are heavily into non-duality - but this applies to seekers in general.

Basher reports telepathy and mind reading is simply when 2 individuals think exactly alike at a moment in time

@Jowblob At the same time, you could argue that having children is for a higher good for humanity - Leo's mother carried and gave birth to him. Leo then created content to assist humanity elevating its consciousness. So you could argue Leo's mother ALSO did something selfless for humanities higher good. The children we bring into the world - how are we to know what they will then go on to create, put out. Assist. Creativity is humanities birth-right. Einstein's mother/father, Newton's mother/father. They participated in the creation of those individuals that changed the world and assisted humanity. So despite the perhaps selfish individual reasons for having children - from another perspective you could argue the outcome was selfless with how they contributed to humanity. Intention may be selfish - but outcome is selfless. Perhaps it is not so clear cut

That subreddit breaks my heart - I always hope they do not damage the kids through life resentment

One thing I will say about this topic - it has been interesting reading replies. There is so much coming up from user's subconsciousness. It is coming through from them in their posts with zero awareness - precisely because it is in the unconscious mind. Sorry to derail - carry on.

@ivankiss You would hope no one is being led...

Ah right okay - I think your usage of the words has twisted the meaning for me. 'Suffering physically' There is pain, and there is suffering. I sense that you want a cure for pain, suffering, or both. But it is just baked into reality. All we can alter are our perceptions of pain and suffering.

I think so - Hashimoto's can brutalise you systemically. I am BLOODY lucky I do not have CFS as my pathology is in remission. Interesting - are you attempting to look into why you may be drawn to Leo as a projection or a disowning of portions of your psyche? I find examples of myself doing this whenever I judge someone. I am disowning a part of myself and reality externally by judging. So I pay attention to it as it is my brain filtering something out existentially. And I do not want to filter our parts of my reality. I am blocking out something within myself and only choosing to see it outside. The mind is conscious of a lot more than we realise - but we learn to filter it all out in an attempt to 'know' and survive. I am constantly trying to destroy these filters within my spiritual process. Although it can be a hard balance - sometimes I pay attention to things that are irrelevant to survival

I don't like to talk about my plans and goals unless I am trying to figure out a best course of action. Or consulting with someone I deem as an expert or has more knowledge. I have to have a real valid reason to talk about it. A goal. Otherwise, in my 40 years of experience, the dopamine and energy kick of talking about a plan or idea is enough for me to feel as if I had achieved it. I want all that energy and dopamine to be channelled into the task. If I talk about it, I hamstring myself. Rob myself of the energy to actualise it. Plus, I don't really listen to what people say as much in life. I just look at what they do. That shows you their values and beliefs better than any words.

Exactly. Slap a nice little label on it and reduce it down so you can dis-identify it from your egoic beliefs. Voilà! Perhaps you could argue satanism is worshiping and pedestalising some dark deity - but that would be worshipping a concept or belief. So, a falsehood!