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Also if you believe the second approach is more evolved, you're actually still believing the first approach anyway, see how impossible this all is to work out?

There's no conflict between the two unless you believe one or the other. Teachings don't tell you how to do it or how to get there, but illuminate what you take to be the truth but is not actual.

Tim Ferriss has a podcast and is a big advocate for psychedelics. Would love to see Rupert Spira, Jim Newman and especially @Nahm (Phil from Actuality of Being)

Physical reality already melts in deep sleep. So do you. Try showing someone how you do it though. I think people really think there's a difference between the mundane and spectacular. Then they disbelieve the spectacular and overlook the mundane, all because they believe in the existence of both. So strange.

Once you start to dig into your psychology and patterns and tendencies, you observe that there are patterns that run in your family, tendencies towards anger, depression, anxiety, certain diseases. This is "known" and accepted by society and psychologists. However these issues are neither with ONLY body (genes, structure, hormones) or only mind (thoughts, conditioning), but if you take yourself to BE a body-mind you believe yourself to be susceptible and at the mercy of to your genes and much, much more. You are not a body mind.

Seeing the humor in stuff. Effortless. Also helps to have one or two asshole friends to laugh with who won't let you get away with your own bullshit.

Wonder and awe are only ever now. Would you still "hear" the sound of the forgotten bells (feel the resonance) if they were really forgotten? Nope. You is wonder-full

Easiest thing is to appreciate people, and look for things to appreciate. If you're annoyed with people at the moment and not engaged in conversation look for something in your surroundings to appreciate. This is hard to explain, but notice when you look at something, that you have no idea what it actually is. It's a complete surprise. Don't think about this, it happens on it's own when you really, really look at something. It's sort of like when you listen to hear something really closely, as if you were listening for an animal in the woods, you become completely quiet and open. Only you do with seeing. Or what the heck, do it with hearing if you want, focus on one sense is just a gateway anyway. There are more gates than just the breath, but that one feels amazing too.

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Life, in general is no different from spirituality, it's just that on internet forms where you have groups of people who seem to value the same thing in the same category that you have these sort of discussions. It's like asking who was the best Kobe Bryant, Freddie Mercury, Mother Theresa or Steven Hawking? It's a stupid question. It depends on what you value, what you love. So just go direct to the love.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2021/4/woman-with-worlds-longest-nails-has-them-cut-after-almost-30-years-654013 "With or without my nails, I will still be the queen. My nails don’t make me, I make my nails!" Aww... there's wisdom literally everywhere.

If your object is to be the best at something you could flip through the Guinness book of world records for some ideas. But you have to pick a SOME THING or category in order to the best at it, in order to measure progression and have others recognize you as the best. Example, "Most clothes pegs clipped to the face in one minute." I'm sure that guy is just an underachiever and anyone can take that title. Or maybe you don't care about being the best, you just care about what you care about. Spirituality is the dissolution of categories and things. You just "do it" cause you love it and all other reasoning dissolves. In fact it's not even a choice, it's like... there's just no other option, but not because you're devoid of options but because this one just shines so f-ing bright that counting clothes pegs stuck to your face just doesn't even appeal you anymore.

There's nothing pure about it but it is also child-like in-no-sense.

trajectory (n.) https://www.etymonline.com/word/trajectory "path described by a body moving under the influence of given forces," 1690s, from Modern Latin trajectorium, from trajectorius "of or pertaining to throwing across," from Latin traiectus "thrown over or across," past participle of traicere "throw across, shoot across," from Latin trans "across, beyond" (see trans-) + icere, combining form of iacere "to throw" (from PIE root *ye- "to throw, impel"). Middle French and Middle English had trajectorie as "end of a funnel," from Latin traiectorium. problem (n.) https://www.etymonline.com/word/problem late 14c., probleme, "a difficult question proposed for discussion or solution; a riddle; a scientific topic for investigation," from Old French problème (14c.) and directly from Latin problema, from Greek problēma "a task, that which is proposed, a question;" also "anything projecting, headland, promontory; fence, barrier;" also "a problem in geometry," literally "thing put forward," from proballein "propose," from pro "forward" (from PIE root *per- (1) "forward") + ballein "to throw" (from PIE root *gwele- "to throw, reach"). Ok, who wants to play a game of catch with me? I don't have a ball for some reason, all I have is this boomerang. Whatever, I'm sure it will work just fine.

Oh.... so if you had an ever so slight curve to your trajectory, like Pluto's orbit around the sun or something, it would seem from your perspective that you were traveling in a perfectly straight line, not a circular orbit. And you'd think that you were getting somewhere, and you'd think that it would end somewhere, wouldn't you? Huh.

"I'm on my way to what I want from this world And years from now you'll make it to the next world And everything that you receive up yonder Is what you gave to me the day I wandered" Is light a wave or a particle? ? Is Donkey enlightened or just fictional? I mean, either way, I love him.

@Nahm I knew you'd come around to seeing it. You ever thought about how narcissistic it is to say from the perspective of earth that "the moon is full" or that it's a new moon or a quarter moon? The moon is like, I'm always a fucking sphere buddy, your perspective just changes and so you think there are things like alignment and reflection of light. And the sun is just like, "what the fuck guys, you're just going around in circles."

Should I doubt the thought of doubt, or the breakthrough itself? Isn't the breakthrough once passed, itself a thought? Is experience itself in the past, or is that an experience of a thought about an experience? With this "in mind", all breakthroughs should be both fully credited, heralded and completely disregarded.

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@Raptorsin7 Honestly is good. But we often get honesty mixed up with perpetuating issues that we don't realize we are perpetuating, because we have done this so long that we believe that they are happening TO us. A resolution happens TO the character only, the author just creates it. If the author does not wake up and notice that he is home, safe, and creating with his thoughts, the character will never get their resolution. The character never wakes up from the story. It doesn't matter if the character desperately wants a resolution, only the will of the author will be done. Don't mistake a resolution with what you really are, the creator of problems and their resolutions.

No, you don't want to limit yourself like that. You already are that without doing anything. You're like an author sitting there in the comfort of their home, with a calming cup of tea, writing an epic battle scene. Just stop mistaking the character for the author.

What separates the ballparks? Walls and fences you gotta break through?

Yeah, kinda like turning on a light in a room full of people and thinking it only illuminates you. Also anyone else's understanding only makes it easier for others to see clearly. So that's pretty amazing too.

I know, it's funny right, we realize that we aren't REALLY the person who can "get it" or not get it, the person who can grasp or lose it, and that feels so amazing that then we pat ourselves on the back and say, "YES, I GOT IT!". If you recontextualize this song from being about sex to being about meditation and Awareness it's pretty hilarious. Armageddon it.

If you're talking about how many times you've got lost in thought, it's WAY more than 1000. If you're talking about how many times you've actually left awareness, then 0. It's both horribly condemning and completely redeeming at the same time. Cause any thought or judgement you took away from it would be...