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@seeking_brilliance I'll do it if you want.

I take responsibility for things too much. I have a hard time separating caring about someone and caring about their immediate emotional state. @seeking_brilliance Where was the post?

You're sneaky. He really is. Why did this thread attract this situation? Law of attraction? Irony?

Our desire for love and inclusion COULD be blamed for the arising of hate and loneliness. Rid yourself of the desire to be loved and included and you'll become whole and independent. This fatal thinking is the what I suspect to be the highest position of the ego. The last boss? There is no inner peace, love and inclusion without the outer. Sure, you're the screen the movie plays on. But you can't turn the movie off for good. Every morning you wake up and the damn thing turns on by itself! It has no off switch. It feels a lot better to not be so absorbed in a horror film when you know that it all just plays on a screen. A lot of us in this work decide to dull ourselves to the horror scenes, so that they no longer affect us and we no longer care for the characters in the movie. We learn to laugh as we watch heads roll. It never occurred to us to change the fucking channel.

@DrewNows That looks awesome, thank you, have you seen EVERYTHING by Teal Swan or what? My six year old is autistic. Autism often brings with it a lot of strengths. It's really amazing how diverse we all are. When I was a teenager, before they required complicated passwords my password was truthlove for everything. Love cannot be made into an ideal or a requirement, or else it ceases to be love. But truth and love unless reconciled are again a duality just like male and female. Awakening or realization itself is the only reconciliation I guess. @Joseph Maynor Please don't.

"The Tao produced the One. The One produced the Two. The two produced the Three. The three produced ALL things." How many are having this conversation? One or two? The answer is both.

Do you believe that there is value in understanding that there are two main kinds of spiritual energy though? I see a lot of dismissal of different people's paths, understanding and experiences, and thought that if we acknowledged the differences we could understand each other better. I know you say that there are many facets to awakening and leave it at that but two is as concise as it gets before you get to One.

Sure, I feel like a fish out of water sometimes, but the flip side is that that's the fire/desire for Oneness and enlightenment. I'm not blaming men, I really hope what I wrote doesn't come off that way. I know plenty of men who are traveling a similar path. Feminine and masculine is an easy way to describe or understand the energies, but ultimately it's just a metaphor for duality merging to one. This is awesome! Thank you!!!

When you really miss someone and it feels like they want nothing to do with you, the ego wants to turn the strength of love around and it twists itself inside out and becomes hate. Where else can it go but turn inward? There is another to receive the love, but there is no other to hate, so hate destroys. The only way through is to surrender, go into the sensation and feel the burning fire of it. It's not love, it's not hate, it's just hot burning energy. Coincidentally, that's the same way women are coached to deal with labor pains. The story isn't finished yet.

@Pouya You should really check out Yuval Harari's work.

@Esoteric Thank you! Being confident giving advice is probably one of those lower chakra problems I need to deal with. I have the same glimpses and nostalgia from childhood, but more recently I've understood them not just as past but also potential future visions or desires straight from source. I live in a ghost town that was thriving in the late 1800's, and started feeling the energy come through at this one spot that used to be the center of town where I would take my kids to play by the river. Synchronicity ensued, lead to the discovery of a 1800's Clairvoyant doctor's book, which lead to a number of realizations including opening my mind to the paranormal, the law of attraction, led to discovering the remains of his summer home which had overlooked the spot by the river, all of which all played a part in my recent awakening. Energies communicate with kindred and open souls, how can they not when we are one? My challenge is... how can I translate this to others, bring it down to earth so to speak, how can I practically help the planet awaken to love? How do I get my shit together enough so that I can focus and become confident using duality to speak about nonduality?

@Esoteric Disclaimer, I JUST discovered this, am not an authority and really don't want to mislead anyone so please take what I say with a grain of salt. I would forget about raising kundalini energy for now and try to ground your energy instead. The author warns strongly against raising kundalini energy if you've already stared "The Grail Path." See how it makes you feel. I have the exact same stomach area blockage, in fact, I had a strange stomach pain start right before I had my awakening and it's still persists. Consider that you may have been born awake to kundalini energy or awakened in already at some point in early life, raising more of it may cause a storm or imbalance. If it doesn't feel right it isn't right, your inner being knows, even if it's against ancient traditional teachings, your inner being is far more ancient than that, and it speaks to you through feelings and sensations. I would focus on grounding your energy. I kept getting headaches whenever I tried to raise energy. I can tell when I'm working through a pain or block, and this was not that kind of feeling it was a "NO!" kind of pain. For some their path is open to the higher selves, they need to awaken to love and their creative self they need to open the higher chakras. For us, we were born awake to that but struggle with the realities of life here on Earth. For example I've always been a hopelessly messy artist type. Difficulty with managing time, difficulty focusing, very controlling about money, lots of base chakra imbalance problems. In the past we were taught that we must be retarded spiritually to be struggling with such aspects in life, but in reality our path is happening in reverse. Consider how you might work to solve your lower chakra problems, not because you missed something along the way at the start of the path but because they might very well be the last leg of your journey. There's a lot of Christian symbolism in her writing, Jesus was a rare master of both paths and may be a map to teaching/helping all types to awaken fully.

In the book she mentions Buddha's flower sermon when he just held the flower and said nothing, and only one disciple Mahakasyapa got it and smiled, she says it was because his path was The Grail Path. https://blog.buddhagroove.com/the-flower-sermon/

@Salvijus Yes! In my experience the DIY approach works to a point, but you had better be really in touch with your inner being, and even then she or he will lead you to who you need to learn from eventually. The lone wolf approach only takes you so far.

Yes, the masculine and feminine need to be integrated and yet, metaphysically we will still embody and teach different energies. If it's going to change with time then we need to go into duality and understand our differences so that we can understand how we are also the same. We need to teach everyone how to properly start their journey. Certain techniques like psychedelics and Kriya yoga may not be appropriate or even safe for everyone. In a holistic sense it doesn't matter, but when it comes to helping people with specifics and helping people improve their lives, we need to understand our differences intellectually as best as we can, we need a compass so that we know what direction we need to travel in. That has been my journey and is the last leg, that I need to finally intellectually understand the power I was born with and learn to focus, channel it and teach it so that it can do some good rather than just be in a lofty bliss state I enjoy all by myself while letting the world fall apart around me.

It's only been until very recently that culture hasn't had rigid beliefs about the natures of men and women. The history she shares in the book talks about traditions that excluded men or women, but that's only historically, the path is for both men who were born more creative and heart centered, or for men who have finished with the kundalini path and wish to go the whole way. For example my Dad is very heart centered, all his life challenges are very basic ones but he is very open spiritually and in tune with universal love, and has been since the day he was born. Outwardly he's a truck driver, so he doesn't have a lot of feminine qualities, but his spiritual path would definitely be more in line with this. She talks about Masons excluding women because the use the path to raise kundalini energy and it can be damaging or bring out destructive energy in many women. She also laments the loss of traditions where certain moral and other foundations were required before energy was to be raised or given. I'm not 100% sure that those points are the entire story, I'm going to keep my mind open. When I had my awakening, it was like I expanded upon or could clearly see something that I knew I had always had, a fire, a passion, a connection, love whatever you want to call it. Masculine energy definitely was necessary to prompt the awakening and the way it happened makes very little sense when I compare it to most teachings, but this book explains what happened perfectly. I saw how as I grew up I had become ashamed of my "inner being", I became withdrawn, a hermit with workaholic behaviors. I covered up the light because I knew was too strong for most to appreciate and even convinced myself it was bad or part of my ego. When I went about trying to kill my ego, the inner child essence part of myself blossomed out like a flower and I saw the spiritual ego as the actual ego that was masquerading as my higher self in subduing the true manifestation of self.

Anglerfish are awesome. The females anyway. That jellyfish looks like something my three year old daughter would have dreamed up. Magical. Those birds look so ridiculous, it's as if they know that they have to put on a good show to keep their home.

THE LEFT, the left, the left! I couldn't feel the heart on the right, the path of Ramaji and Ramana Maraharshi, they are ass backwards to the path of grace. The stomach pain, all the strange chronic pain I've had is on the left, the uncentered light I saw, always to the left. There are TWO paths, two energies. Lightning strikes down, rain falls down. It rains on mother earth and the seed grows up toward the light, blossoms and bears fruit.

@Mikael89 No free love for you then.

"The Tao produced the One. The One produced the Two. The two produced the Three. The three produced ALL things." "The Holy Grail is not an object that can be found in the physical world. It resides within the psyche and can only be seen through the mind's eye or imagination. The mindset and practices of the seeker create the Holy Grail, The Cosmic Egg, and the Divine Child. During the entire transformation, the Kundalini does not rise through the base chakra, which means that the Heiros Gamos does not take place. This is why the seeker of the grail is called a "Virgin" and why another name for this spiritual path in The Virgin's path. " Mischa V Alyea https://www.amazon.com/Grail-Path-Achieving-Transformation-Emotional/dp/0692558837/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=the+grail+path&qid=1565441524&s=gateway&sr=8-4 I should have known it was happening backwards for me. I kept getting headaches whenever I tried to raise energy.

The Didache, begins "There are two ways, one of life and one of death, and there is a great difference between these two ways." There are two different spiritual energies. Duality itself runs deeper than can be thought.

HOLY SHIT. This woman is AMAZING! https://www.amazon.com/Grail-Path-Achieving-Transformation-Emotional/dp/0692558837/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=the+grail+path&qid=1565441524&s=gateway&sr=8-4 "The Grail Path and The Hero's Journey are diametrically opposite paths. The Grail Path utilizes the Divine Power of Grace to cleanse the inner being and grow the Divine Child. The Hero's Journey uses the Divine Power of Kundalini to initiate the inner transformation of killing the ego and heightening the sense. It does not matter if you call these twins Dark and Light, Bread and Wine, Yin and Yang, Lightning and Snake, or Adam and Eve. These mystical twins, through their metaphorical portrayals, show up through the ages and in a multitude of cultures." Hence, women fearing the snake and the snake deceiving Eve. She even says that's why Masons never allowed women to join. In the past people assumed that women's brains were wired emotional/creative and men's were wired logical, now we know that while that's the trend that it's not gender that defines that.

I had a strong natural awakening and couldn't sleep for between one and two weeks. Don't worry, it will pass so try to accept the situation fully. This goes against other advice here but one thing that made it worse is because I was also naturally fasting which intensified the energy in my case. If you eat carbs before bed, they make you drowsy and sleepy. Might help a little in the meantime. Are you still getting meaningful dreams and realizations?

You're thinking of it a bit backwards. Mental illness is a possible path to enlightenment. OCD becomes integrated as intuition, etc. Even Alzheimer's and dementia are mystical transitions.