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@Leo Gura Gotchya .. I guess I asked all that because I know you're able to access certain insights with the mind and tools you have that many of us don't have access to, that could flip my entire way of living inside out lol I'll try my best not to project my fears. I tried to frame it in a way where I'm focusing on the philosophical aspect, and which I am, but the fears do come through sometimes. I'll work on that.

@Natasha Tori Maru its probably like a fish aquarium in her mind .. her very own turd aquarium. Why even flush the toilet at that point?

@Leo Gura Well if we take that lady for example, what that says to me about her psychology is that shes highly emotionalized by that lifestyle. But also you mention objects of luxury, like does having any object of luxury create some sort of deep delusion in your mind? For ex. say you're mostly living a normal life, but you have an Audi S5 sports car. If most of your life is grounded in high conscious principles but you still own such a car does that fall into the category of what you're saying? I guess Im wonder is if any objects of luxury at all create some form of deep delusion or is it the overall emotionalized pursuit of objects of luxury in general.

@Leo Gura Regarding your post on luxury, is that a generalization that luxury is a trap? For ex., I'm not in pursuit of "endless luxury" in the way some rich person is constantly after stuff, etc. I value more higher conscious things above that. I envision living in a normal cabin type house, by the beach, nothing fancy really, but Im sort of applying that practice you mentioned in a video about investing deeply in your space and house, and the joy you get from that, and like setting up an archery space, your own library room, getting into the fine details of building your house the way you'd like, etc. In a sense the pursuit is for creating a space optimal for inner growth, but also for living a good life. Is that so bad if its in pursuit of higher ideals but that incorporates some degree of luxury? Or does any bit of luxury deeply delude you, or any partial pursuit to create an aesthetically pleasing environment for oneself, and that you should aim to remove all luxury from your life lol .. Im mainly just trying to understand your thoughts better.

I'm hoping we share our best, most potent use cases for AI for our lives. I know we all have our own beliefs and emotions about AI, but if we objectively put them aside temporarily, and just practically see how one could effectively use it in their lives, practical input -> output, or investment -> return on that investment, we may come up with some incredible cases. Now I could ask AI but I personally want to know what has actually worked in your life. Anything stands out that just changed, is changing, or has massive potential over time by consistently doing it as a practice? What inspired me to create this was, years after using AI for hours a day, I just discovered one of the most exciting use cases for me: A week ago, I decided to try ChatGPT's advanced voice mode. Now I tried this here and there over the many months, but I never really liked it. Sometimes its monotonic, sometimes it speaks a bit fast, etc. But a week ago, I recall just over the years how Ive learned how powerful reprogramming the subconscious mind is from actualized.org, but I rarely ever take the time to practice visualizations from psycho-cybernetics. I do plan to change that though. So what I thought was let me ask ChatGPT for a highly powerful visualization, one that would give me a strong edge related to health and fitness as I've been trying to change that for years. It spit out the visualization and I was reading it, but it was hard to go deep because reading and visualizing at the same time is a bit difficult. So I lay down, close my eyes, turn on the advanced voice mode and tell it to read it out for me. As it did, I got deep into the visualization. It was really good. After it said it all, I had some refinements and iterations, new ideas I wanted to test to visualize, spoke my refinements, and it took me in a new direction, and in that way I refined my self-image, the environment of the visualization, etc. It's incredible. Since day 2 till today I've been eating 95% healthy because I'm visualizing health and fitness related visualizations with voice mode. I'm so excited to do this every day that I'm getting wired apple earphones (hate apple wireless) so that I can talk back and forth with AI as I go about my day to see what other use cases come from voice mode, and to even do visualizations more often through earphones. Additionally I spent over 1k+ hours in app development with lovable.dev .. Its the best startup Ive ever come across, fastest growing in Europe in history. It allows me to create full scale apps and Ive been hooked ever since. Its actually incredible, and you can get very creative with it, integrate APIs, and do all kinds of unique functionality with it. I listened to 100s of hours of Leos creativity videos to put me in the creative state to build features daily with lovable.dev. Im hoping you guys keep sharing over time your best use cases, the ones that truly impacted you in a positive way. I can see this thread being very powerful as AI advances, and hoping we all could deeply contribute to this over time as technology advances, we as actualization explorers discover new use cases to transform our lives, etc.

@SwiftQuill thats a pretty good list .. Im going to refer to that for my app dev path. I have found chatgpt's assessment of ideas often being hit or miss though in some cases. But for that last, what I personally would do is take one specific item on that last and pass it to the deep research agent. For market research for ex. and competitor research, the deep research agent is orders of magnitude better than ChatGPT regular. In fact ever item mentioned on that list would be way better off with the deep research agent. But the list itself is gold.

@aurum role play scenarios is genius .. although Im not sure where that leads lol but I can sense and intuit its genius

@aurum Thats amazing .. I personally stopped pursuing direct awakening at least for a long while, but I did try going deep on philosophy and just overall higher conscious thinking, but I mostly found that its lacking in intelligence, depth, etc. when it comes to really deep topics. But if you're saying essentially to "push" it to train it in that way, I could give that a try, but so many times I end up finding it lacks depth and intelligence when it comes to wisdom.

@Thought Art I thought they deprecated the old one and just have only the advanced lol .. And Ive been thinking about using it for going meta on my thinking but honestly going meta on my thinking in general is new to me, I dont know what all approaches there are. But I'll have to give that a try.

@Natasha Tori Maru Ive been thinking that lately. Not just who you speak to, but everything around us will soon be made by AI factories. Im trying to just take these next 5 years and really appreciate humans, and the world around that is not made by AI until our world changes. (also speaking as someone who lives and breathes AI right now lol)

@Leo Gura Wow, I didn't even realize how much I needed to hear all this. A lot of good insights here and I'll have to screenshot this for later. I didn't consider this, but this is what I'll exactly do. For years, I cant shake this notion that Truth is this cold, dark, unforgiving, place. I mean I don't know if it is to some degree, but I know my mind is projecting a lot. But Beauty is something I can go after. I can even recognize beauty of consciousness to a small degree even in daily life, so I already have a taste of that. Maybe eventually I can shift more to Truth for its own sake. This also gives me a lot of hope. I thought fear = it's not for me. But now at least I can entertain the possibility that I can slowly reduce that fear. Psychedelics still scare me, but maybe thousands of hours of shamanic breathing, yoga, etc. may open possibilities for a deeper desire for Truth.

@Leo Gura In a lot of these posts related to awakening and truth, these few patterns of thinking keep persisting for me: a) Fear, fear of death, fear of life getting altered, fear of going insane, fear of getting dissociated, a lot of fears, and not just the fears themselves but the actual possibilities of such things happening .. and then b) why? what even is awakening? (if we can never know through thinking, then what are we even after?) .. and shouldn't the why be far greater than the fear, but how can that desire be so high if there's never been an experience of it to actually motivate oneself? .. and I kind of know what you're thinking, that I should want truth for its own sake, and on a relative domain I do, but on an absolute domain, practical things like the fear of death, uncertainty of all kinds prevents it. Also on a different level, there are periods or moments in my life, over the past 10 years, where I'm fearless, and I'm genuinely interested in Truth, but still fear and practical obstacles hold me back a lot. In my early 20s I went after Truth far more intensely (maybe somewhat non-genuine) but I would seriously question reality, take psychedelics, etc. but a lot of that left me dissociated, not discovering anything absolute, etc. and so now I have these fears built up. I guess I'm hoping you could address some of the more practical obstacles over time. I know you cover Truth from Truth's perspective, but its hard to relate to that often from someone with little direct experience.

@Leo Gura yeah makes sense, they need to make a safe 2-person scooter. Would be a good business idea.

@Leo Gura yeah maybe that played out better in my head lol .. I could see it being dangerous. Better yet .. you could get a second scooter for "guests" and then roam the city together. That'd be epic.

@Leo Gura of course .. 1) it expands the territory you can meet girls to even less crowded areas, 2) less walking 3) great date idea if you both are on the scooter like she's behind you if you ride slow

@Leo Gura Lol I know you thought this as being infastructure for game also .. also emphasis on no phone + helmet .. I almost had a bad accident from trying to take a video while riding these.

@Leo Gura Yeah I know that about the government in the events of slow moving day to day stuff in an environment where things matter months and years down the line. But when there's an active oligarchy forming right in front of their eyes, putting a fire everywhere around them, its almost shocking how asleep they are when this in particular is happening.

@Leo Gura Why is the entire government so slow and timid about this? Why cant the entire government bring the same retaliation energy against trump the way he's stepping on everyone's toes?

I have an amazon business, and I was asking my dad who incurs the tariff costs of the new shipment i get from china, he's like of course you do. I looked at him and said "of course, why just hurt the world when you can hurt americans too (trump logic)" That's just my limited interpretation. I have no idea about tariffs.

I would say start by building your weekly habit schedule. Commit to 1 habit at a time, don't overwhelm yourself. Get that habit to stick. Focus just on doing that 1 habit well. Then every Monday of the week you add a new habit, and you keep adding good habits in your life until you "build" your life. Motivation is fueled by momentum. What I described creates momentum. Motivation is also fueled by consistently doing the right actions. I don't personally believe in a partner that much. I believe self-discipline is internal. You need to find it within.

@stephenkettley I think you can have multiple purposes now, or you could do one and then another purpose in 5 years. But if you commit to 1 purpose now, vs. having more than 1, there's a world of difference in your mind. By committing to 1 purpose, you'll have mental clarity, confidence, true purpose, because purpose is sort of one destination. It's like if you're trying to get to Florida, why are you trying to get to California at the same time lol But also when you're fully committed to 1 purpose, you suddenly get a surge of constant creativity, if the purpose is ambitious and exciting enough.

The irony is that question 1 is so important that it makes other questions less important lol When you're so focused on a particular thing, everything else becomes noise, at least for that phase in which you're focusing on that one particular thing. But 3. stood out to me a lot .. I wish I knew about the power of discipline, training, and habits, their compounding, and their synergy. The thing is I knew about it for ages, but I didn't really truly know the depth of it on an embodiment level. 4. People should try building apps with AI. I haven't found a better way to tap into creativity, and one of the greatest joys in my life is tapping into creativity.

@Rishabh R Yeah I can relate. We suffer far more in the mind then in reality. It's best to see it for what it is.

Good luck man, it took me years to quit and Im so glad I did.

First off, I would use the deep research agent by Open AI to tell the exact details of your product (make sure you have a product, thats the biggest mistake I made in the past is not having one) It will give you detailed strategies of what actually works, and fits your circumstances, and what works for other people in your situation.