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@Leo Gura do you know why everywhere I look on social media there is only support for Trump? Owen cook's comments, and even Eminem showed his support for Kamala harris and the whole internet is only talking about trump in Eminem's comments. I'm just trying to make sense of this.

@Leo Gura ah okay, in that case he is very similar to Yuval harari, but instead of being blinded by christianity, he is blinded by his national identity. He too is otherwise pretty wise. Actually I'm starting to see a pattern like this in quite a few places.

@Leo Gura I haven't looked into this one bit, but JP can't be that naive? I've seen some videos of his in the past, and some were pretty good.

@Raze but does he think the people of Israel faced a much greater suffering?

@Princess Arabia The older I get, the more I realize how different the female mind is from me. Almost like another type of human lol .. It's weird because over time, I did learn a lot about the female mind but I think its one thing to learn about the female mind from outside the female mind, and a whole other ball game to truly know the female mind from the inside.

My logical brain always tells me that most of this stuff is coincidence, but when I reflect these "coincidences" happen so frequently, it makes you wonder whether there's something more.

@Leo Gura from a spiral dynamics perspective, I think IDF and Israel has a lot of patriotism as a factor, or something in their propaganda that can turn even great thinkers blinded. I am thinking yuval noah harari, for example. It's surprising because on all fronts, he is a great thinker. He is even a historian beyond national identity, but when it comes to his national identity and his people of Israel, he thinks only his people are suffering in this war. I actually can not comprehend how powerful this national identity patriotism is. Yuval is actually brilliant in the sense that he is one of the few thinkers on AI that can look outside of AI to pull important insights into the future of AI. So he is a very good holistic thinker, and still his national identity completely blinded him on something so obvious. It's actually quite shocking. I also think IDF is luring people in with some aspect of patriotism in the whole country. One of my friends joined IDF, just a normal guy who is not radical in any way, and I can see it is mainly just to fight for his country, and that's it.

@fabger Dude you're still a kid, respectfully. Don't be so harsh on yourself. Your life just started.

Just looked into it, it's so good. This is an instant game-changer for any serious project you're working on.

@Genius100x you're doing great. That sounds great. Just hang in there. One step at a time, you just walk in the dark tunnel until you start to see the light at the end, just have to keep walking until you're out of the tunnel.

@Genius100x Hey man, I just read everything you posted on this thread. I understand exactly where you are coming from. I think you need to make this clear in your mind: Clearly your dreams and ambitions are greater than your suffering. I get your suffering is a lot right now, but your dreams and ambitions are greater. This is a clear sign that you need to commit to LIFE. It's very simple. It's hard to see this simple fact because you are in the "clouds" right now, but just see that if your dreams are big, you owe it to yourself, your future self, to find a way no matter what, do whatever it takes to reach that vision of yours. Feed your ambition, and cultivate that desire very strongly. I think for some time even consider consuming less philosophy as that is feeding your negative emotions, and focus on clear strategy and action. Maybe listen to Owen Cook. He will get you out of this emotional funk you are in, and get you to "fight and claw" out of this haze you're in. Then once you gain some control on your situation, you can perhaps return more to philosophy. Also realize you have many options right now. It doesn't seem like that, but you do have options. For example, perhaps you can go to an ashram in India by bus, and stay there, help out there, and they will provide food and shelter, until you can get a job, and then go from there. If you are worried about your family finding you, then choose an ashram in a remote location, grow a bigger beard or something. Start planning it out. Writing it out if you have to. My grandma and grandpa, in their late 70s and early 80s live in India, and they were daily abused by their son in many ways. They also felt hopeless, but then my aunt snuck them out of the house, and now they are thriving. They too didn't see hope, but they got out. When you're in the clouds, its hard to see hope, but there is a way out for you. I can already see it, you just need to muster the courage and escape. And even if you don't leave for some time, that's okay too. You can develop coping mechanisms. Start cultivating coping mechanisms if you choose to stay at home for some time. Coping mechanisms like: distraction with Netflix, meditation, opening the window and breathing some fresh air, a book to put you in a better headspace, pushups and situps to make you feel physically stronger, etc. You can do all this. The moment you start taking action in the right direction, you'll feel stronger, more capable, break out of your emotional haze more and more, and see new possibilities to fix your situation. Trust me, you will reach better horizons. I think you said you don't have habits in place? That you are just flowing. This is what needs to change. Trying to flow right now, is like letting your cirumstances control you. You need to take control of your life by cultivating the right habits. Build your foundations. Then you can add some flow in as well. Habits are critical, even small habits, and then keep building on that. When you have a solid foundation of habits over time, no one can take that away from you, not even an abusive family member, and you can use that foundation to ground you, to give you something worth fighting for as well. You don't just need just a better vision to pull you out, both a vision and a foundation of great habits can give you a lot of power.

@Leo Gura oh okay, I guess I was too focused on an individual creator's point-of-view to see that more important point of view. I definitely agree with that. At the same time though, that cat is way out of the bag for companies like OpenAI and such. From what I understand, companies like OpenAI are entertaining opt-in for certain groups of people like photo companies, news, and artists but if you're talking about the general taking of data, there's no stopping these big companies from being powerful like that unless government steps in. I also doubt government can do that much now too. Competition is fierce right now, within USA but also the AI race between countries.

@Leo Gura I can see it being a problem when it tries to replace the unique style of someone, or even represents someone's work, or impersonating someone, but I still don't get this: If an AI is creating unique output based on diverse training data, why does it matter if its opt-in or not? From the perspective I'm looking at, when I read a book at the library, and Im absorbing someone's hard work for me to build my neural network and operate on in life, that data is freely accessible to me. It's the same for me consuming online content for free for my personal neural network. I don't get why AI needs to have opted-in data whereas humans don't. (assuming the AI creates unique output and doesn't sought out to represent a particular person's work) Some part of me does say, well thats stealing data though, which makes my conclusion: The answer isn't so simple, where we can conclude that data needs to be strictly opted in, nor even data needs to be freely accessible. Perhaps its a case by case basis, or requires further exploration into the matter.

@Leo Gura Well sure, from the perspective of AI companies getting powerful in that manner, there definitely should be limits to that power simply because of how that power negatively affects society, but simply from the perspective of the fairness of training on other people's data, I don't think its a simple answer that its a problem. Honestly, I think its a complex answer of whether its fair or not. On one hand, it is a form of stealing. On the other hand, Im not so sure its a problem if AI outputs unique content.

@Leo Gura isnt that how human brains work though? We train on book data and from that we learn and operate in this world. Isn't it the same if content is used to train AI to learn and operate in the world? I can understand it being a problem if AI plagiarizes and spits it out as it was inputted, but if its just using that content for learning and training purposes so that it can create new content based on a deeper learning and understanding, is that that big of an issue?

Wish more people I know would vote for Kamala, unfortunately about 30% of my friends are trump supporters because of financial benefits. That's the world we're in right now.

@Buck Edwards I honestly don't know much about our country politics, nor Kamala, but I have dug into these abortion laws and Trump's policies and honestly its really a wtf scenario. Definitely voting for Kamala just because I dont want that mad man ruining the country and people's lives.

@Peo Great choice man, the challenge would be to keep it up long-term. Perhaps journal how you can make this change sustainable, and remind yourself why you're doing this every now and then.

@Marvelllious Don't listen to that guy. He's been making harmful clickbait videos like this for years. He's also overly pessimistic. I don't think he has a good family life from what I recall when I last saw his videos a while back.

@bambi Its not that they are a maker of malicious software, but there is clearly a lack of care, due diligence, ethical analysis, etc. in the developing of these AI systems. They are driven primarily by profit and competition, not consciousness. Even you said earlier that its important for a company to prioritize consciousness over competition. Do you think Google is prioritizing competition or consciousness? I think you already know the answer to that lol

@bambi I don't deny necessarily that those google guys care about the advancement of humanity, but from my research and understanding, in the pursuit of that advancement, they are neglecting the dangers of AI as well. I don't know the answers to these questions, but here are some things to think about: Is Google involved in the development of weapons? And say there are, is that a good thing or bad thing? (I recall some reports saying google is involved in weapons, not sure.) Also, Eric Schmidt, ex google CEO seems involved in helping Israel (I recall he said that, again not sure). Is the very nature of being this competitive in the AI space, without knowing what it is we are creating a good idea? How solid is google's ethical AI team? (Ethical AI doesn't seem to be a priority in any of these top companies, especially Microsoft, who I think fired many of their ethical AI team)

@Leo Gura That's good to hear. It's interesting how you are deep into consciousness and still support the notion of creating high conscious businesses, and hiring people. I don't see much commentary from spiritual teachers on what is conscious vs. unconscious in the world of business. The problems with pursuing a business at all, whether aiming for positive contribution or not, whether its an impactful business or not, is that some damage gets done to people's survival, I think, regardless of the business. It requires carefully contemplation, thinking, analyzing, systemic thinking to see whether you are doing really is right or wrong.

If Elon Musk de-friended those google founders because of their negligence of ethical AI, of all people Elon Musk, its safe to say Google isn't the most ethical lol @bambi These are some solid points. The problem with business and capitalism is that the bigger you are, even as a small company, the more people you hurt (I think). Even in the companies I hired, people aren't off starting their businesses and pursuing their deepest passions, which bothers me. But at the same time, I can't have the impact that I want to have unless I hire some people in that way. I think at the end of the day, people do get hurt in any company you build, no matter how hard you will try to minimize the damage. But what is comforting is how many people I can impact with the companies, and in turn give back to employees money-wise. Like you said, it's looking at all the details of the systems and carefully iterating each aspect for higher consciousness, higher quality ethics, etc.

@Leo Gura How about a company of 10 people, with an owner focused on contributing to the world? I have a few companies where I hired people, pay them well, treat them nicely, and want to transform psychology, healthcare, etc. with AI solutions, and an app I'm developing with various mind tools. My highest priority is the betterment of mankind while also following my passions and curiosity and not creating surface-level solutions, without going too much into the details of that. I guess I'm asking what makes a company corrupt and delusional exactly?

@Leo Gura Hey Leo, I have some questions on your latest blog post: "Start At 10% Life hack". I'm honestly not that interested in skipping the first 10%. But I'm really interested in this tactic you laid out: "I jump around and scavenge from content exactly what I need." I've been interested in doing this for many many years, but never had the courage to commit to this strategy. I can see the power of it, though, now that you laid it out so starkly. But what about missing "really important" content in the process? Often times there is content that I read and don't realize its importance until weeks or months later. Also I don't realize its importance only until after I read the content in the first place. Also a lot of important content builds up on each other to lead to something emergent, and for that emergence to occur, it would require one to learn the various parts that leads to that emergence. From my understanding, this strategy, "I jump around and scavenge from content exactly what I need.", does have massive benefits, but also I do see some downsides. I also fear that I would have an incomplete understanding if I just skip around. I can imagine myself skipping around books that are just "good" or "great" but books that are "excellent" I feel that I need to consume it all. Also, for a lot of books, I don't know what it is at all that I'm reading, because it's so new to me, and I wouldn't even know what matters or not until I read through it, which makes it hard to just skip around. Lastly, does this strategy apply to online courses as well?