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Hello I have done some investigations regarding Destiny's position in different foreign policy and geopolitical issues in the last 20 years or so Although I agree with some of his positions like that Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine or opposing Trump's racist and shitty internal policies, in general I notice a very strong Western bias, mostly American akin to typical Stage Orange in his views They do not seem to care about truth but simply what helps American establishment succeed One good example is supporting the Libyan war, which was a total disaster for Libya and was done on very bad policy of installing democracy by force to a Stage Purple/Red society, purely to benefit the geopolitical goals of other countries Another example is his double standards regarding Ukraine and Gaza where Israel gets far more of a blank check to do war crimes than Russia simply because "Israel is our ally and pro West" meanwhile Russia is not. Saying also "Russia had no good reason to invade Ukraine" is too simplistic and totally ignores the survival agenda of Russia, something which Americans would never tolerate on their own. Supporting Ukraine fundamentally is logical but totally dismissing Russia's position shows huge lack of awareness of other countries survival agendas I am posting this thread because I see that he is mentioned far too much, I do not even know why but he seems to be popular in this forum I think he has a very strong Stage Orange when it comes to foreign policy If you compare it to people like Bernie Sanders or Mehdi Hasan, you can tell his positions are more about defending his own society than trying to find truth What do you guys think?

That is not a state. A state would be the equivalent of Jordan. Until you do that, you have not tried properly. That is a low standard to be fair to compare with ISIS. You are worse than USA, worse than Europe, worse than Iran and on par with Russia. In terms of the ways you conduct warfare. In terms of human rights abuses on par with Russia and not as bad as Iran. Since you guys claim to be a Western style liberal democracy I compare you with Europe and USA and not random Jihadist regimes. If you stop claiming to be as morally advanced as Europe or USA then I will become more soft in my criticizm. I am holding you to same standard I hold UK, France and USA here. And in none of those countries do state forces shoot childreen and say 'we shot dogs" !

@BlueOak This is a good video I saw on this matter It kind of confirms the Russian losses but also does deep analysis on Ukranian losses which are basically totally hidden and no serious media reports on them It debunks absurd claims from both Russia and Ukraine and I found it reasonably objective Ukranian losses have always been a huge blackbox, everyone focuses on Russian losses and the only number said is Zelensky number of Ukranian deaths which is obviously an understatement and not reliable at all.

Maybe give Palestinians their own state like you have yours, kick out all the settlers and build a big wall so you will not have terrorism anymore? Why not that? Sacrifice land for peace You do not want peace, you want land. I am not a politican, i am a watcher of Leo and I have been on this forum for years. I engage in other topics too. However the amount of devilry and biases I see from Zionism is unmatched in the 21st century Not to mention there are a lot of threads existing already like this one and i join in

So you are also against the NATO lead by USA intervention in Yugoslavia which stopped an ongoing ethnic cleansing campaign against the Kosovo Albanian population by the Serbian forces in 1998-1999? If USA had intervened to stop the Rwandan Genocide or the Bosnian Genocide from day 1 would you be against it too? Sometimes interventions save more lives than are lost from the actual intervention I dont know the case for Iran though which is why I am conflicted by it especially given the USA president is a very selfish devil atm

I live in Western Europe and this never happens there, nowhere in Europe actually except perhaps occupied Ukraine In USA it happened 2 times with no childreen involved nor any such barbaric statements and it made national headlines globally for many days The fact that you consider this "business as usual" shows how horrible things are down there in West Bank If some Palestinian had killed 4 Israeli civilizans including 2 childreen and called them dogs you guys would have totally lost your shit and went on a rampage Close to 1000 people in the West Bank have been killed since October 7th, the same number of Israelis that were killed in that attack. From them 250 have been childreen (1/4), compared to 40 Israeli childreen killed in October 7th attacks. If you kill 250 childreen in 2.5 years it shows a lot about you. Since you say "this happens in other places too", no, it does not I do not recall 1000 civilizans including 250 childreen being killed by authorities in less than 3 years in USA or Europe Even if there is a mistake (once in a blue moon), they do not call the victism dogs! That says enough that they do not even care that they shoot childreen and innocent civilians You finding this normal tells me all I need to know about that place. Disgusting double standards and dehumanizion you have towards Palestinians!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/15/israeli-police-kill-two-young-palestinian-boys-and-their-parents-in-west-bank To see this in real life instead of reading it? Would be interesting to hear this statement in real life too The attack on the Bani Odeh family brought the number of Palestinians killed to 11. Two brothers survived the shooting. Khaled, 11, the oldest of the siblings, said he had heard his mother crying and his father praying before they died. After the gunfire stopped, Israeli border police dragged him out of the wreckage, taunted him about the murders of his family and attacked him. One of the Israelis said “we killed dogs”, he told Reuters. No thank you, I do not like to witness such evil in real life, reading it boils my blood enough

I wonder is the left outrage in Israel because a Palestinian suffered inhumanely and totally against any moral or legal norm or because the exposer is getting threaneded and her career is being attacked? Is there empathy also for the Palestinian or only for the exposer? That is important to understand I notice even more left wing in Israel do not share the same universal empathy and care towards Palestinians like for example people in France do

Leo what do you think about the recent war in Iran? It has been close to 2 weeks now I remember you were in principle against it 2 years ago but given the violent crushing of the protests in Iran in January are you still against the intervention or see it as a necessary evil? I have a lot of Iranian friends and I notice a big division amongs them, some are in favour and some are against I am talking about non pro government Iranians here

LMAO I never noticed that

Fair that is indeed true Especially when it comes to fighting back MAGA lunatics His internal policies discussions to be fair are pretty good

Its not just that to be honest The reason his Israel position is how it is is because of his underlined "Western bias, especially American bias" He also seemed to be ok with overthrowing Gadaffi which to me was a massive massive mistake and although I agree with his stance on Ukraine, he totally fails to take into account the Russian survival agenda Basically it is Western exceptionism, especially American The idea that America is right in what they do and they are immune to mistakes You can feel when he talks that his loyalty is to USA instead of truth Which is why to me it is suprising why people give him so much time and attention on foreign policies matters when you have far better commentators I will agree however that on internal policies within USA he seems much better and actually can factually challenge MAGA and all the White Christian supremacists that exist within USA

I feel like currently USA is overstreched with aiding Ukraine and also aiding Israel and the gulf on the war with Iran Especially when it comes to air defenses which are getting used at an insane rate, higher than it takes to replenish them I wonder if China will use this time to attack as USA's response will be limited

To me Israel first in theory sounds like a good idea However it is fundamentally selfish and very biased Israel is the idea to give Jewish people a state, which in theory sounds great considering how much Jews have been persecuted especially in Europe However, the core fundamental issue is that that state was created at the expense of others who were already living there for centuries It is the idea "lets give this dude a house because he is homeless but he ll take over half the house of someone else who has been living there for decades" Was it their land originally? Perhaps I am no expert However, the way it was established and the location to me was not right Perhaps creating it in a non populated vast area like Russia or Canada or Saudi Arabia would be better idea Basically Europe who dominated the world at the time after treating Jewish people like absolute crap for 2000 years, felt bad and decided to carve up some land for them while totally ignoring the needs of people who were already living there because they did not consider those people worthy of even being listened too since they saw them as a mere colony. And it gets even worse considering those people who got screwed over did not even participate in the 2000 years of Jewish oppression.

Yes it is more Stage Green which to me is closer to Truth than Stage Orange They can see devirly on every actor, including their own That is the core difference They may be unrealistic in terms of actual solutions but at least their assessment and analysis of the situation is far more objective in my opinion Its just their proposed solutions are not realistic When it comes to understand devirly and survival situations of different actors to me Stage Green (although not perfect ofc) is still better than Orange Orange seems to basically say "USA good", "Russia, China, etc bad" Too simplistic.

You can use the same argument for Jordan Peterson, he is a psychologist firstly Same for Dave Smith who was a comedian Destiny has a huge platform and he seems to be included often on this forum which is why I made a post about him And just being right on Ukraine (even though with a super pro Western lense on assessing the situation), does not mean much Issue is caring about ur pro Western biased views rather than Truth when you get millions of views is problematic.

I do not know to be fair, better ask the person who created the thread. But it is very clear to me that they do not consider the act to be immoral or wrong which is the core reason why They may give some legal bs justification but the core reason is that they do not consider that action to be wrong if it was done to someone they consider to be a terrorist. If it was done to another Israeli soldier or a UN peacekeeper etc (hypothetically), the reaction would be very very very different. To them "who it happens to", is much more important than "what was done to them".

I know which is why I said the military establishment instead of saying the entire country. The military establishment operates on the Blue-Orange framework, according to everything I have seen from them. One great example is the phrase "1 Israeli deaths should be avenged by 50 palestinians killed". This type of mindset. It was said by some top guy in the military too. I am sure u have many Israelis civil societies and people who are more Orange to Green. But when it comes to Palestine specifically I have noticed even normally Green people suddendly become blue I am not going to argue why they are as they are, I am simply stating assessing their level of development. Every entity has reasons to be at the level of development they are. Why do you think Gaza's leadership is much more hardcore than the West Bank?

To understand that you need to understand the psyche and moral development of the Israeli military establishment and big chunks of Israeli society In Western countries, stage orange to green societies, we think that torture is wrong. Murder is wrong. End of story. In Europe you have many people arrested for terrorism charges, people who literally killed dozens and they were treated within all international law norms, not abused nor tortured nor starved. That is because Europe, especially Western Europe has a stage Orange/Green level of moral development However, Israel is different They may be technologically and intellectually very advanced but their morality is more akin to Stage Blue (majority of cases) or even Red (in some cases) So to them, a terrorist is someone who deserves to suffer, who deserves to die They do not hold the idea that all humans should have fundamental rights that protect them from torture or murder regardless of what they may have done. To them someone who either is suspected or actually was involved in the murder of their people, should suffer Which is why such acts happen and why everyone is on board with it I have seen a debate in Israeli TV where a more morally developed debater said "we cant do this to people it is just wrong", and the other debater said "do you know what that person has done". Basically, if you hurt us, we will hurt you. Now many humans think like this, even in more Orange countries. However, the state institutions fundamentally do not allow this because the institution itself is advanced enough to understand that torture is wrong and it should not become normalized in the society as it can cause huge problems in the overall society. In Israel that is not the case, which is why the entire establishment is ok with this From what I understood, that person who was raped was a suspect (either proved or not) of being involved with Hamas To Israel, a Hamas fighter or sympathizer=A Nazi who wants to kill them simply because they exist, pure evil. Russians do similar thing to Ukranian prisoners of war, torture is very spread there because they view Ukranian soldiers, especially Azof soldiers as anti-Russian fascists similar to WW2 Bandera gangs And since the Russian morality is similar to Israel's , they torture them and starve them etc and the whole military establishment is ok with it. There were also examples of torture on the terrorists that killed hundreds in Moscow in 2024. Ukraine who is slightly more morally developed than Israel or Russia, does not torture in the same way Russian POWs even though those Russian's basically went to Ukraine and did tons of war crimes. Note: The key is not whether someone is indeed a terrorist or a nazi etc but HOW they are perceived by the ones that torture them So in the case of Ukranian soldiers, they may not be anti Russian fascists but to Russian soldiers, they are. The key is not whether the prisoner who gets tortured is guilty or not, evil or not. The key is whether a society is morally advanced enough to not rape, torture someone who they BELIEVE to be those things. To show restraint and act accordingly to the international basic convention of human rights. Hope it is clear.

I notice a lot of people who are drawn to these theories tend to to not believe in democracy and fundamentally think others are sheep that are controled by forces hiding in the shadows. To me it shows low trust in others, lack of trust in democracy and the idea that evil trumps good.

Hello I have been thinking lately, especially after rewatching Leo's videos on Spiral Dynamics and the 9 ego stages series about something I have noticed something which I personally find very disturbing So even though the world is much safer than lets say 100 years ago, there are still conflicts going on One of them is ofc the conflict in Gaza since 2023 which has so far killed at least 71.000 people What I have noticed relative to other conflicts, despite the insane amount of footage, statements and reports/investigations is the insane amount of denial and rationalization I see If we take for example the genocide in Rwanda, the atrocities in Sudan or what is going on in Myanmmar, there is an overall collective understanding that they are wrong and that the parties commiting them are not very good actors. So, most people would agree the rebels of Sudan or the interahamwe in Rwanda were bad actors that did bad things What happened is awful etc But when it comes to Gaza, I see a lot of people defend the actors that did the bad things I see a lot of rationalizations, a lot of defensive mechanism and biases Some of them absolutely shameless Why is this the case? People will defend the IDF without any sort of shame, say everything bad is an accident or not intentional etc I have not seen people defend for example the rebels in Sudan this way Even though the evidence is insane (arrest warrents by ICC, tons of reports by every credible organization, footage, genocidal statements by the Israeli government etc) Now whether it is a genocide can be discussed Whether it is better or worse than X conflict can be discussed No issue there But to simply state that the IDF did bad things and is guilty of bad things is still not agreed on a consensus like lets say the rebels of Sudan is Why is this the case? Why defensive mechanism, co-opt of logic and rationalization, everything Leo talks in "Self-deception" gets triggered by this conflict and not other conflicts. It is a lot of people that seem to love to defend this conflict, much more than people that rationalize Russia's invasion of Ukraine for example I would like some ouput Thank you

Plenty of released files that show Trump being involved with it and another 3 million files not released yet Not only Trump but other important politicans too They need war to distract

You can thank Eipstein and his buddies for that

Very interesting article I checked on the school bombing in Iran some days ago that killed up to 170 childreen https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab-girls-school-strike-as-israel-us-deny-involvement It is quite long but there was a cruicial piece of information to take into account which I will copy paste from the article: "The Shajareh Tayyebeh school in Minab is part of a broad network of schools structurally and administratively affiliated with the IRGC Navy. These schools are classified as nonprofit institutions and are primarily intended to provide educational services to the sons and daughters of members of the IRGC Navy. Registration messages posted on the channel on the Iranian messaging app, “Baleh”- a channel dedicated to communicating with parents of pre-school children at one school in the Shajareh Tayyebeh network – show that admission procedures give priority to the children of military personnel. In more than one announcement, the children of IRGC Navy members are explicitly invited to attend on specific days to complete first-grade enrolment, with another notice stating that registration for children of non-members opens on different days. However, this administrative link (to the IRGC) or the identity of the parents does not change the schools’ legal status as civilian facilities under international humanitarian law, unless they were being used in military operations." Basically, since they were used by the childreen of the IRGC navy, to Israeli low moral development they become fair game and hence a worthy target to be bombed I already had doubts that Israel would do this. Basically do a relatively "clean" war when it comes to the general Iranian public but when it comes to clear targets that are connected to the IRGC in any way, they will employ Gaza like tactics Because to the low development of the Israeli military psyche, anything related to an entity that hates them, is fair game So, if the IRGC hates them, any family member of the IRGC is fair game Pure devilry...

This is what causes people to massively hate on Israel. Pure evil How do Israelis justify this to themselves? It is totally morally rotten and disgusting I have never seen them properly try to weed out this behaviour, it is always brushed aside.