Karmadhi

Beautifully said.

Well it is not a perspective, you are objectivally wrong due to international laws. Sadly Israelis do not seem to recognize they exist and create their own system of justice. Genocide and wiping out of innocent non combatants is a war crime. War crimes are not justice. Humanity evolved past these barbarities. Such a perspective will put you in prison for war crimes.

You realize half of them are innocent kids that do not even know anything about politics. How can you guys be so inhumane in a personal development forumn?

Both call out for genocide of the other group. Being incinerated is not any more humane than dying by a machete you know... I understand you got animals in every country but how are these people elected in office? You think countries like Germany would allow people saying such things to be in office? This is what shocks me. It makes me loose respect for the collective moral development of Israeli society because such people would never be elected in the West. Of course not saying all Israelis are like this... First thing Israel should do after the war is ditch all these animals from their politics and replace them with orange/green guys that actually value all human life... I do not see things improving with these current politicians..

@Nivsch https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy3xop-NTUI/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng%3D%3D Since you seem to be from there can you please explain to me who this guy is and why is he calling out for genocide? He seems to be a politican from what I saw. How can such animals be elected in a "first world democracy"? It is baffling me honestly. They do not seem more morally developed than Nazis, such people.

@Nivsch Hamas is less powerful therefore Israel has more responsibility here. Whoever has the power has also the responsibility. Hamas is like a cancer in Palestine society and Israel instead of surgically removing it while ensuring the safety of the patient is just blowing the patient to bits since that also destroys the cancer. What sort of solution is that? And YES Israel has the moral responsbility to do it well since they are the powerful side with weastern support. The west should only support surgical solutions not blowing people to bits solutions.

@Leo Gura How come? What happened to fair equal treatment of everyone? So Israeli is like the corrupt politican in a third world country that gets away with breaking the law?

@Leo Gura Do you think their government will be trialed for war crimes?

The moment Palestinian civilians get involved like they are, then anything Hamas does becomes obselete. Palestinian civilian lives should have priority over Hamas suffering. Those are the wars of law. Unfortunately Israel lacks the will to respect them.

There are international laws for war. If you break them you get punished It is that simple. Why is it hard to understand this? You respect the law, thats it. Everything else is rationalizations and delusions. Israel is clearly not respecting the law so they should be punished. You guys are like a murderer yelling why we should not murder. Because the fucking laws which you also signed say you cannot do that The end

He literally said that Russian soldiers are tricked by their leadership into fighting the war. You can say the same for Israelis about to invade Gaza.

It is a good video but in the one he made about Russia he said how Russians are tricked by their government and the war is basically wrong. I do not see him do it here, he had a neutral stance. How come he did not condemn Israel for stealing land, the same way Russians tried to take land in Ukraine? Is it not objective true that it is stolen land by Palestinians or are there historical facts I am missing?

Thing is Israel the first time it got attacked was this October and in total it has way less suffering that what Palestine went through if you take decades into account. So it is not equal. It is like saying Germans suffered during world war 2 but it cannot compare to the suffering Germany inflicted over civilians of other countries.

@Scholar Most Israelis are decent people, I said that above. But you cannot deny some countries are more racist than others. For example Belgium is less racist than China. Same logic here. It is not rocket science. I think Palestinias are probably more racist than Israelis and more hateful. However their hate is justified, Israelis is not. The oppressed has the right to hate the oppressor, not the other way around.

@Scholar I think it shows how openly racist Israel society is... At least parts of it. This would not fly in the west.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QihoBuGRVwU This is just disturbing... Can someone explain me how this is possible? Are these people evil or something?

Ben Gvir has shouted "Death to arabs" so he definetly is comparable. How can such monsters be in power is beyond me. I am sure most Israelis are decent people but sadly the monsters and radicals tend to get in power. Same happened to Nazi Germany for example. And Israeli do not face harships, they are first world country, rich, no war, no civilians dying. Overall good life there. So they have way way less reasons to be conservative and have such animals in government. Meanwhile considering how harsh life is in Gaza and the fact that Israeli is mainly responsible for it it makes perfect sense for animals like Hamas to be in power. I hope you can see that.

Dude you need to understand it is not the same. Israel has been priviledged and living like rich kings while Palestinians are treated like shit and live in poverty. You cannot expect Hamas to be as restrained as Israel because Israel has not suffered while Palestine (hence Hamas) has.

@Raze Thank you for sharing. This clearly shows their moral development of their army is not much higher than that of Russians but people here dont seem to fanthom that

@hundreth Israel zionism is not better. also their current government is equally cancer

Why only us liberals are crying about Palestine here in the West? I dont see conservatives care much

@Nivsch This is the fundamental problem here: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ElWDKIzkdMM And this was before the terrorist attack on October. This guy is apparently a schoolar so not an uneducated moron, he holds the title "Doctor". And he is insulting ALL of them, not just radical terrorists like Hamas. He is insulting their entire race. As long as this attitude exists, the area will never find peace. I am not suprised if many elements in the Israeli Government or Military think like this.

Nobody is saying "Israel are all bad" or anything like that. But their current government is extremly racist and toxic and needs to change to a more green evolved government. Also there is a high degree of racism of many Israelis towards Palestine. Americans used to have the same attitude about blacks before the Civil Rights Movement in the 60s, it is not that before that they were all evil monsters or anything.

The historical 20-30x difference in casualties between Israel and Gaza shows otherwise. I dont give a shit about Hamas dying, I care about the Palestinian kids which are almost half of all dying. I care about the fact that 95% of those dying are civilains. If most dead would be Hamas terrorists I would not care at all about it. However if you think killing 50 civilians to kill 1 hamas is acceptable than I will not agree with you. To me Palestinian kids and Hamas are independent variables. I do not see 1 linked to the other. Kill Hamas but if you kill Palestinian civilian kids while doing it then you are wrong and deserve punishment. Palestinian civilian kids lives should have priority over Hamas soldiers deaths. To Israel they dont. Hence the liberal outrage including mine.

Google "Terror Bombing". That is what Israel is doing. It is a standard military strategy. Also their logic is this: "50 civilians dead for 1 hamas fighter dead is acceptable". It shows absolutely 0 regard for civilian lives which their right wing government sees as subhuman. Hitler and Stalin had similar mindsets. There is endless footage of Israel bombing convoys trying to leave killing hundreds. UN Staff says south of gaza is not much safer. UN is by far more trustworthy here than any other source since they are the most impartial. Correct, an invasion will be a disaster. You have endless footage of Israel carpet bombing Gaza.