Karmadhi

Look man, we know Israel is a rich as fuck first world country. I am sure it is an amaizing place to live for Jews and perhaps better than many Middle Eastern countries even for Arabs. Personally I would be treated well there, I can come without a visa and my country has amaizing relations with Israel since we were the only country in Europe that had a Jewish population multiple times higher since we sheltered them in at our own risk. Israel is grateful to us for that and our leaders meet often. I have massive respect for Jewish work around the world, many writters and academics I like are Jewish, like the author of Sapiens. So for me Israel would seem a great country for the most part. No arguments there. However, the way Israel treats Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza is absolutely disgusting to me. It makes my blood boil how they can get away with it. I have also heard there is some degrees of racism within the country where black or Arab Jews are treated as lower class citizens compared to white jews but unfortunately that happens in many countries still so it is what it is. Biggest issue I have with Israel is the ridicioulous number of Palestinian civilians it kills almost yearly, not just on the current war. They had skirmishes before and ALWAYS the ratio is like 20/1. Combine this with West Bank being treated like a terrorist state and Israel keep expanding with illegal settlements and I cannot respect the country, at least when it comes to how they treat Palestinians. Lastly, it baffles me how they can elect a government that literally calls for genocide of others and openly says in talk shows that all Gazans are animals and we will wipe them out. I have heard lawyers, doctors, even some politicans say such things. I sent you once a guy saying "we should turn Gaza into Dresden" if you remember. For example when USA was attacked in 9/11, I do not think people in the USA were openly saying in shows such comments. It is 1 thing to say: "We will kill the terrorists and those responsbilie etc" and it is another to say "We will wipe out an entire group of people". Bombing hospitals, refugee camps, humanitarian corridors etc is totally unacceptable in 2023 even if there are some terrorists there, when you know those places are packed with civilians. The highest death toll among journalists, higher than WW2, and hundreds of health staff killed shows how indiscriminate the bombing is. It is similar to what Russians did in Mauripol but with much much higher people dead. And Mauripol was considered a war crime galore by most countries including the West. You do not need to be a war analyst to see that the policy that mostly kills women and childreen is flawed.

Money corrupts people, I am sure they would prefer to live like second class citizens in a rich country. Telling a thief to return what he stole may be LaLa land to you but Russia giving Crimea back to Ukraine is equally LaLa yet you advocate for it.

I just saw, population wise Israel is around 7 million Jews and Palestine is around 5 million, add another 2 million Arabs from Israel and it is 50/50. By default the land that was the British Palestinian Mandate should be 50/50 split, meanwhile Israel has like 85% of it. Why dont they retreat and give the Arabs there half the land, since they are half the population? Curious. @Nivsch Same question to you.

I get your point but I am sure less people would have died if they actually cared. Also lets say 500 soldiers will die instead of 100, still worth it in my opinion if it spares like 8000 innocent childreen. I know they are Palestinian but still innocent since they are childreen. Israel obsession with minimum military casualties is partly responsible for this. If they want to commit war crimes, do it on Hamas fighters. Rape them, hang them in middle of square, shoot all POWs idc, just leave the kids alone... And if 500 soldiers lives to you are worth more than 8000 kids, at least for the rest of the world they should not be and Israel should be coerced into it. By coercion I mean thread of sanctions, cut of diplomatic ties, War crime courts and public condemnation. I see this as a conflict between 2 parties where a third party (the kids in Gaza) just happen to be there and are suffering under it much more than the other two. In my opinion it is unfair that because 2 parties are in conflict, the third party should suffer disproportionally compared to the other two. So to me as a global citizen, if 1000 IDF soldiers need to be sacrificed to save 8000 childreen then to me it is a deal worth making. I am sure it may not be for the IDF but for the rest of the world it should be. Since those 8000 childreen have 0 responsibility for the attack on Israel, by default their lives should have priority in the eyes of the world since first they are childreen and second the number is way higher than the IDF lives that have to be sacrificed to ensure they will not die. But my last paragraph is more towards non Israel, non Arabs. I do not really except Israelis to be ok with what I said.

Interesting how today it was a calculated precise strike with minimum casualties since it is Lebanon and they want to avoid a war there. Why didnt they use a 2000 paund bomb to destroy the entire district like they do to take out Hamas guys in Gaza and killing tens of civilians per strike? It seems like precision strikes work with minimum colleteral damage. More proof that they intentionally want to mass kill civilians with each strike they do against Hamas instead of using precision drones like they did against the guy in Lebanon today

The issue is that Israeli current neo nazi government does not want it. That is the real issue

@BlueOak All you say Israel has also done. So I find it double standards. Also shelling civilians like Putin has is a lot worse than kidnapping kids because at least the kids can go back. Dead people cannot. I find it weird that BiBi and Putin are not wanted for that

So taking kids out of a dangerous warzone and sending them to Russian foster homes by force is worse than murdering kids like Israel does with missles. Ridiciolous @BlueOak

1947 borders are the real ones, anything else is purely stolen land. The UN decided to create Israel under the 1947 borders

@Danioover9000 Thanks for sharing. Amaizing video. I would add one more layer of western disgusting hypocrisy Today Ukraine launched an attack on civilians killing around 20 people in Russia. Western leaders said it was Russia s fault for starting the illegal occupation of Ukraine. Fair enough. But when Hamas launches a similar attack on civilians in response to Israeli s illegal occupation of Southern Palestine, they are labeled as terrorists. Ukraine attack on civilians today is not. Disgusting double standards

So an Andrew Tate attitude towards girls makes you more attractive? I never saw any mysogonistic attitude towards women work personally. Having a strong personality and being assertive and dominant are not mysogonistic. What exactly are you talking about? Manipulation sure can work but manipulation works with everyone, it is not a mysogonistic thing. It works with guys too

1 dead Jew is equal to 1 dead Palestinian or Nigerian or anything else. If you think otherwise that makes you a Nazi

Because the Nazis razed Europe to the ground and killed close to 20 milion civilians for no reason. They were not oppressed by the Slavs yet they invaded and tried to wipe them out due to their superiority complex. Hamas are fighting back Israeli theft and murder which they themselves started by illegally taking their land and putting them in a big air prison. And Hamas death toll civilian wise is super low. Like 600 or something max. Compare that with Nazis 15 something million. Idk why the world lost its shit over 500 dead civilian Jews honestly.

They have killed 2 times more civilians in 3 months from a population of 2.2 milion than Putin did in Ukraine with a population of 30 something milion in 2 years If Putin is so bad how come BiBi has killed like 30 times more civilians per capita. Use common sense please. If you compare the actual civilian death toll per capita the evil dictator Putin is a saint in comparison.

@Vrubel You take out Hamas the way I showed you above. Your logic is basically saying that in order for Palestinians to reform you need to kill tons of innocent people unecessary. By that logic lets also wipe out Israel since they are also toxic radicals right now in power. Retarted logic Most people dying in Gaza are innocent and yet you defend their killings. I expected more humanity from this forum

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0fz_MxOZET/?igshid=NzBmMjdhZWRiYQ== Here you go Only do this, no 2000 paund bombs, no dumb bombs and no cruise missles. Just do this type of strikes. This is how you humanely take out people hiding amongst civilians

@Nivsch Well you will not be convinced until Israel says it themselves which it will never happen so I will stop this conversation. Until you start trusting international organizations and even western media instead of historical proven liars.

How come Israeli is allowed illegally to have nukes but when Iran tries to get them the world looses its shit and sanctions them to death? Double standards again If Israel is allowed to have nukes then so should Iran imo

@Nivsch https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/100000009208814/israel-gaza-bomb-civilians.html here you go

Going back to 1947 borders and giving up illegally stolen land from the people that welcomed them while Europeans were butchering them would be a good start

@Nivsch They are murdered. Not just displaced We care about Palestine more because first of all they are the ones dying in mass. 32 kids vs 8000, sorry 8000 takes 161 times more priority from us. Second, Israel should not have been near Gaza to begin with. They stole so much land compared to the 1947 UN borders so we will care less about the pov of thieves and colonizers

@Vrubel When you have killed mostly women and childreen any humane and sane government would realize the way they are conducting the war is flawed and change tactics. Israel doubles down on it because their goal is to punish all Palestinians because they see all of them responsible. Apparently 90% civilian death rate is fine for them. Maybe a change of tactics? This is not self defense it is ethnic cleansing and collective punishment. Anything else is pure delusion Funny enough Hamas had a higher soldier death rate than Israel does (400 soldiers out of 1200 total dead) Let that sink in….

@Leo Gura Then the West should disown it. Especially Europe. Give them Russia treatment and they will come about. Starting ICT war crime trials making Benjamin wanted like Putin is, sanctions on Israel and cutting diplomatic ties. Europe especially should do this. Otherwise they are tolerating Putin like behavior which goes against their fundamental values and principles.

Its scary how you pro Israelis conviently ignore all the horrible footage of mistreatment of Palestinians coming out of Gaza daily. Imagine back in the day when all the information you had was your local biases newspaper. Scary…

It was celebrated in many places for many reasons. First of all people did not know you had massacres of civilians, it looked at first like a military operation where for the first time Palestine took back the land that was stolen from them illegally by Israel in 1948. So plenty of reason to celebrate about that. Now if you show people footage from the massacred civilians I doubt people would celebrate as much. Lastly, the number of people wrongly massacred is not as high as Israel says. From what I saw its around 800 total civilians killed and from those 200-300 were killed by Israel due to the IDF panicking and making errors, especially in the music Festival. The true death toll of civilians killed by Hamas unjustly is around 500. 40 or so being childreen. Definetly a big number but no near close the 20.000 and especially 8000 kids killed by Israel Since childreen are always innocent and cannot be blamed either for Israeli oppression nor Hamas terrorism I will focus on them. 8000:50 is around 160 ratio So 1 child killed in Israel, you have 160 killed in Gaza. And the ratio will keep increasing each day. I dont know how this is acceptable in any way. Even the Nazis at the peak of their insanity had a 100:1 ratio. Let that sink in