Moksha

I haven't seen any evidence of psychedelics healing brain damage, but there is a substantial and growing body of research that psychedelics, when properly integrated, can help heal a variety of mental illnesses, including OCD, depression, anxiety, and PTSD. Not surprising, when you understand that the root of many mental illnesses is thought-entrapment. Awareness surrounds itself in a fortress of false thoughts, meant to keep it safe, but which entombs it. Psychedelics and other spiritual practices create enough chinks for the light of the absolute to shine through, gradually dissolving the walls until only the barest outline of a shadow remains.

As I said once to Leo, I'm under no delusion that I am superior or inferior to you, or anyone else. We are all tiny waves that crest and fall in the blink of god's eye. Meanwhile the ocean, which is our absolute nature, remains depthless and still.

@Breakingthewall I feel it's not helpful for us to discuss ideas. It's good that the absolute within realizes the value of liquidating the mind, to make space for its light. Continue that.

@Breakingthewall Relative means the appearance of existence, not the unveiled absolute, which is beyond existence and non-existence. I realize this makes no sense to you, and that's ok. The absolute within you has its own path to carve, as it has carved its path within me. Look forward to reunion when the clouds have cleared and the sun is in full glory. ☀️

Yes, I know from many conversations that you believe what you currently perceive is the only reality. I was hoping that your perspective may have broadened based on recent comments you've made The cosmos and your perception of it are not real. They are phenomenally convincing, but are bound by dualities within the dream. They are the cloak that the absolute wears in order to experience its imagination. Beyond what you are currently experiencing, as the absolute masquerading within a form, is the unbridled absolute. When it directly realizes itself, you understand with perfect clarity. Beyond the conceptual mind, the absolute is changeless, it is timeless, and it is seamless. I tried to share my direct realization of this earlier, but it is only words until the portal perpetually opens within you. It may begin as the tiniest peephole to the absolute, but it is stable beyond anything your mind or the cosmos can throw at it. It dispels every apparent boundary, with only the slightest attachment necessary to continue within the dream. There is enough direct light coming through it to dissolve every misidentification in your mind. But first, it has to open, and remain open. When it does, you will understand what I mean.

Every experience in the cosmos is god veiled, in less or greater glory. It is god's essence, but it is inevitably and graciously indirect. God, or the absolute, in its infinite glory is changeless, timeless, and boundaryless, beyond its cosmos. Existence is only a dark mirror in which god reflects on the experience of itself.

Lucifer means "Son of the Morning". The story of his fall is the story of us all. Eventually even the most demonic of us still gets to dissolve back into the absolute that is its essence.

Exactly! The more direct the absolute is, the more the dream dissolves. The entire cosmos is only its imagination. The absolute is the essence of the cosmos, but it has to veil itself from itself in order to experience its creation. There are infinite levels of the absolute realizing itself within its dream. As it surrenders the attachment of its awareness to the cosmos, and turns awareness inward, it deepens into its infinite nature. Mystics see this. The absolute cannot be entirely realized within its dream. Its light is so intense that it dissolves every apparent boundary. The cosmos cannot contain its glory. Many spiritual traditions prescribe wearing a veil when appearing before God, or that God must veil itself before revealing its glory. The meaning behind these practices and writings is deeper than many realize. For example, Exodus 33: Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.” And the Lord said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” Then the Lord said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”

So even when you are directly experiencing your infinite nature as the absolute, your body is absolutely real, as is your ability to feel pain? Or does it just appear to be real?

There's nothing evil about money, only the love of it.

God appearing as other than God is a transient reflection, like gazing at yourself in a rippling lake. God itself is always absolute.

If this is true, why would hitting your thumb with a hammer have any effect when you are directly experiencing reality? If your body is still there, does this imply anything about your direct experience?

Tu es Dodo

By pursuing desires that will never fulfill you, and running from fears that aren't real.

If 5-Me0 disappears your body, how can your thumb be hit by a hammer? Unless you mean that it temporarily reduces body awareness, but that body awareness returns upon sensation. In which case, it sounds quite like what I describe as lucid dreaming.

Yes, but I was wondering if when you realize infinity and hit your thumb with a hammer, does it hurt?

People spend 99% of their time wasting time, regretting that they wasted time, dreaming of the time when they no longer waste time, and wishing that the moment now was different than it actually is. Why not try something different and experience life lucidly, as it actually is? You can still have goals, but don't define yourself by them. You will never realize love, happiness, and peace in the future, only now. Your kids are here, enjoy them while you can.

When you realize the absolute on 5-Me0, is there any pain when you hit your thumb with a hammer?

@Breakingthewall The form is relatively real, just like everything else in the cosmos. If it was absolute, its apparent mass wouldn't depend on the observer. Two atomic clocks perfectly synched but moving at different speeds wouldn't show different times when reunited. The relative doesn't have to be ignored, just don't misidentify with it. @Javfly33 I was referring to the insanity of the masses, but you're right that spiritual insanity can also occur, when direct realization becomes a memory. All the more reason to remain lucid within the dream.

Most people that consider themselves sane are actually insane. Rather than seeing reality as it is, they identify as an imaginary form, and make every decision based on phenomenal desires and fears. Awakening is the realization of sanity. It is seeing clearly. When it happens, of course it is a shock to the conditioned mind. The framework it has carefully constructed for decades to define reality collapses like a Jenga tower. It is left in disarray. You have to pace enlightenment. Otherwise it will overwhelm you, before you are ready to be overwhelmed. The adjustment is disorienting. I went through a period where I was afraid to even drive. How do you know if it is awakening or mental illness? Direct realization is absolute knowledge. There is zero doubt. As your mental structures relax and dissolve, your true nature shines with increasing intensity, and you understand unconditional love.

@Yimpa Thanks for your kind words, but believe me any eloquence is despite rather than due to my best efforts

@Water by the River Astute insights as usual. Meditation and psychedelics have tremendous potential, in addition to the traditional spiritual paths of contemplation, devotion, renunciation, and service. Really it comes down to sincerity and readiness, over any particular method. Each winding path diverges and intersects with other paths in the ascent of the mountain. The great joke is that after an arduous hike, when you take the final step to the summit, you dissolve. Good people come to worship me for different reasons. Some come to the spiritual life because of suffering, some in order to understand life; some come through a desire to achieve life’s purpose, and some come who are men and women of wisdom. Unwavering in devotion, always united with me, the man or woman of wisdom surpasses all the others…the wise who are always established in union, for whom there is no higher goal than me, may be regarded as my very Self…seeing me everywhere and in everything. Such great souls are very rare. The reason matters less than the realization. The enlightening journey is love, which sees the sameness in and beyond all things. To answer your question, I've experienced so many ego traps in my life that I've learned to step carefully. My foolishness has been my good fortune. Instead of trusting the senses, it navigates now from within.

The pantheon of gods is no more real than those that worship them. When the worshipped and the worshipper dissolve together, the absolute realizes itself.

Everything unreal is imagined, and everything is unreal Imagination is simply misidentification by the real for something it is not. Absolute reality is beyond thingness and nothingness. It's paradoxical to the mind, and can't be comprehended, only directly realized.

The only true knowledge is unexpressed being. Every word, thought, concept, feeling, sensation, and experience is imagination.