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When you had your NDE were you able to see your body from above? Was there anyone in the room doing things you later confirmed? Also did you spontaneously awaken after your NDE?

Easier to just quote it

What exists beyond space and time? Consciousness? Formless emptiness? Is there an identity , memory , form associated with that exists beyond space and time? And if memory is wiped at death how is that functionally different from materialist nonexistence ?

@Sugarcoat Gospel of Thomas is a good read. I believe that if Jesus existed and was really awakened , it's almost certainly his actual words, and basically debunks traditional Christianity (and that's why they had to cut it from the Bible).

The gnostics were a group of early Christians who wrote the gnostic gospels (not included in the Bible) including the gospel of Thomas and the gospel of Mary Magdalene. They believed the world was created by a false God called the Demiurge. Jesus was sent by the real God to liberate us from the world created by the Demiurge. The fact that Buddhists and Gnostics came up with essentially the same idea (Samsara / Demiurge reincarnation trap) , to me, gives the idea some credibility, I think the idea of avoiding the white light is a new age spinoff of Gnosticism . I think it started with Robert Monroe (who coined the term out of body experience). During his astral projection trips he met an entity who told him that Earth is a "Loosh farm" (basically soul energy) created by demonic entities . I think some other people who had NDE's came up with the idea of avoiding the white light, some of them had met entities on the other side who told them that the white light is the entrance to the "soul trap" imprisoning us on Earth.

Well according to the Gnostics the world is created by an evil Demiurge, and Jesus came to help people escape it. a lot of new agers will talk about how the white light at death is a trap and you should resist it as much as possible.

I think it's only bad if we don't have a choice in the matter. some NDE'rs say we choose our next incarnation (but then they're forced to come back so I'm not sure what to make of it).

Yeah I'm picking career development over friends and pickup atm. Also, my social life has been the biggest thing fueling my weed addiction. So tbh I need to get that handled before I start doing pickup again. My main strategy for making friends in Portland is gonna be Marijuana Anonymous. I've already attended some Zoom meetings and was impressed with the amount of 20 somethings.

Breakdown of the bicameral mind occured around the time of the axial age. Socrates, Plato, Buddha , Lao tzu , Zoroaster Isaiah , Jeremiah

Consciousness is an illusion! Hahahahhaha

That makes sense, the west coast seems very social circle . Okay I just found out the company also has an office in Austin. That's bizarre .

I want to know how I can be God if my consciousness is essentially confined to me and can't be combined with someone else's consciousness. I guess it just doesn't compute . But that's probably because I haven't realized God directly .

I think he's missing the whole point. It's not really relevant whether consciousness occurs when the brain stops working. It's much more interesting to look at the phenomena itself, consciousness becoming infinite and omniscient, and attempting to explain how that's possible.

I've been doing Survival, not Spitituality. My entire journey up until this point has been to live forever. That's all I've ever wanted , to be eternally. Now I need to deconstruct that by dying. I must die. I absolutely must die . Pure nothingness . My entire life up until this point has been pure ego, pure selfishness, and pure delusion. I absolutely must die asap. this is my dilemma a lifetime of misery Or this me dies and I actually start living in a way that isn't deluded . I need to find a way out of this cycle .

I'm gonna visit this summer because I got a temp job . Actually socializing has been the root of a lot of my problems I think so it will be a nice reset. But in the long run I definitely want somewhere to do game . 👍

That's tragic. I guess I'm waiting to move to the pnw until I'm in a long term relationship. Austin actually seems like a place I would like . I guess I thought it was a desert but looks like they have some green space.

Damn I really thought I cooked with that one.

Anyone know if Portland is too progressive to do pickup? I love the natural beauty of the Pacific Northwest, and I actually enjoy overcast weather . None of the big "party cities" appeal to me in ways beyond pickup.

I hear women in NYC will approach you. Can anyone confirm? The angel on my shoulder wants to move somewhere with natural beauty and spirituality, the devil wants to move somewhere it's easy to pickup women.

What do you mean by more? Deeper levels of experience? Better understanding of reality? IMO both can always increase .

That's what everyone on this forum says but how many have actually realized? Seems like a lot of us just parrot Leo without actually becoming conscious.

Yeah . But Sugarcoat made a point that made me re-evaluate a bit. The part I forgot and left out was, my thinking was influenced by Bernardo Kastrup . In an interview he was asked about the afterlife and he compared it to being a total amnesiac in a sensory deprivation tank. That to me would be what I wouldn't want. An experience of nothing for eternity rather than simply not existing .

Father : the absolute Son : consciousness Holy Spirit : divine intelligence what do you think about that breakdown?

My life has been suffering but I feel like that's about to change. I'm moving to Oregon from the Bible Belt . I'm focusing on spirituality again, after a long time obsessed with pickup .

That's actually a really good point. Nonexistence would, in certain sense , be a lot better than life. I think I had a subtle belief that there would be an experience of nothingness, kinda like being in a k hole for eternity. But true nothingness wouldn't entail an experiencer.