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Please explain how there is passive aggression or games in this thread. All I see is advocacy for the mentally ill and for autism and for those who are different than the rest of us. Please don't just throw claims without support in this 'bro' culture that is this forum.

Bliss I accidentally let slip earlier this month that I'm in blissful states quite frequently or almost always. Let me explain. I'm hit with states of oneness and Beauty, such is my default. Such is my gifting. However, I have many drawbacks and issues, and challenges. God chooses the silent. The 'dumb'. The meek and the small. Maybe to not spread ignorance, to keep the jewel hidden. God values keeping it all hidden and secret. When I 'grow up' in density, God decides the secret needs to be let loose. I can amplify my gifting through meditation and by inviting the presence of God. "Start by welcoming Him and thank Him for coming to you and bringing all that He is and has. Acknowledge and enjoy His presence" . "Keep It Secret. Keep It Safe." - Gandalf. JRR Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings You can see this reflected in Lord of the Rings. A powerful object- the Ring (Spirit, the sun, love) is given to an underestimated being so as to keep it hidden. This ring holds great power so 'God' gives the task and the ring to the smallest of creatures. Only he can be the one to keep the ring hidden. The Ring and the rings of power have run havoc in the hands of more powerful beings and so Frodo is maybe destroying with his pure heart the ignorance and corruption the ring has caused/is causing. Masculine and hating The masculine sword of truth can easily fall into the territory of hating if the individual integrating the masculine is not careful. It's recommended that you come from a meditative place. Some forms of criticism can be constructive even if they may seem like hating on the surface. Just as some forms of compliments can be constructive and shouldn't be necessarily relegated as ego-boosting if the complimenter feels the conviction to do so. Generally, the masculine will occur alongside internal and external backlash. Hating is an obvious and often subtle attempt to put someone down and make someone uncomfortable, such as calling someone low IQ or low social calibration. The discomfort from utilizing the masculine can result in hating. Hating is often dismissed as Ti or as some bastardized version of the masculine when actually it is anything but. It is NOT 'Ti', it is just pathetic. I think, generally, truly the need for the masculine sword of truth is rare. But to ignore its usefulness entirely is too much as well. Compliments When your heart opens and your mind finds a deep calm then you will find it in you to find the True Compliment Born out of True Love. To be in gratitude is one of the highest states; to be in gratitude to a person and to bare your soul, if only for a moment. When you know the conviction to speak something beautiful and kind and the constructive nature of baring your soul, the impact that simple act can have despite adversity. Like plucking off the spikes on a rose bush the feminine can soften inevitable energetic 'upsets'. Pretty excuses Recently I've been misbehaving and doing all kinds of stupid, low-consciousness stuff. I've gone back to one or two places in development. I want to move forward and evolve. I think that certain users on here were super toxic to my system. But what does that say about my system if it's so shaken up and easily fallen back a few stages in development just by a few silly certain users on here? Not much. Plus I can't really blame anyone but myself. 100% responsibility. Popularity The masculine is decidedly popular. The popular girl is the feminine leading with the masculine. She makes her energy attractive and desirable by pulling away, making herself scarce, indicating high value. That pulling away causes a need for a rejoining. The feminine offers herself up freely, is transparent and you'll see her make moves on the chessboard of life that don't seem obviously in her favour, in the short term. She does not create a pull away that requires a rejoining. She is apparently an ugly duckling until she learns to integrate her masculine and knows her value. She doesn't play the masculine game at her own expense. Talk There is talk of Being and then there is BEING. Those who walk the path, who recognize BEING when they hear her. I'll be honest I rarely see BEING on this forum or even in spiritual circles. It's all intellectual masturbation, there still lacks a grasping. Probably Leo is the only one I've seen who kinda gets it, which is probably why I need to defer to him a little more and stop my criticism as much. I'm just skeptical of his methodologies. I think God gifts people spiritual gifts for a reason and saying DMT can trump God's decision-making seems wrong to me. Outer manifestations of how 'good' you are or how well you talk the spiritual talk or how many followers you have, are rarely relevant but can be a correlation. Divine order vs Compassion Faith vs Will There is a divine order to the universe. God gifts certain spiritual gifts for a reason. And yet to not help others and have compassion for others would be a mistake. God holds you in the palm of his hand and his order is divine. All is well, whatever you choose. But you still need to have compassion. Others need to search out the gifts, such is the masculine. Such is will. You cannot rely solely on faith, the feminine. This is where DMT and weed etc. come in. . Exactly. Functionality is not something to aspire to as much as non-functionality is. There holds a place in this universe for the small and meek or adolescent or non-functional or non-powerful. Happiness and nirvana are often given to the unlikeliest of creatures. Divine order. . Honestly, what is the point of spirituality and spiral dynamics and all this talk of a 'bigger picture' if no one can get this basic premise? That the meek and the small are not necessarily less evolved and less enlightened in the greater scheme of things. When you step outside your own ego and your own maps and science, the significance of others' value in the greater scheme of things becomes clearer. The world is more nuanced than boxes of 'functional' and 'non-functional'. Many of the supposed 'non-functional' have something to offer and are functional in the greater picture. But they are silent about it. How can they speak on something so complex, how can they champion themselves when they have so many struggles? This is a serious problem. The functional are loud. They have no problems championing themselves and so their point of view is the majority rule and very attractive for an ego to unconsciously adopt their perspective. I think people like Carl Jung were trying to use theory to understand and booster 'the meek and the small'. Perceivers, specifically INFPs, frequent the mental health system quite regularly and don't quite fit into our ESTJ society. I remember reading a quote somewhere where Carl Jung said the introverted perceiver's strength and organization lies in his internal world rather than the external. INFPs are most likely to 'ruminate', self-reference, and commit suicide of all types I think and yet people like Jung and Tolkien went out of their way to understand them and their strengths assuming them to be equals in their society that can so easily demonize and pathologize them. Conflict Putting yourself in conflict situations causes a pull away. Especially if you remain taut or rigid or self-contained. Low neuroticism in conflict situations (low agreeableness) is the integration of masculine. Popularity occurs when you pull away and then spring forward. If you only ever pull away then it just causes frustration, although you will be more desirable. A feminine who naturally springs forward and trains herself to pull herself back and remain self-contained is powerful. Pain The pain you encounter during the pull away in conflict situations will subside and you'll be left with the fruits if you don't mess it up by being neurotic before the pain subsides and spring forward undoing the pull away. Still, even then, there will usually be fruits if you can get your neuroticism under control. Low agreeableness or conflict comes with fruits. Fruits such as the need to rejoin, charisma, charm, and attractiveness. That's why assertiveness training and meditation practice are both great things for the feminine to include in her self-development. She has to put herself in conflict situations and lower her neuroticism. "Conflict situations" just means mild low agreeableness and mild forms of conflict. Nothing extreme is necessary. My mentor taught me the art of subtly. Make yourself uncomfortable and embrace criticism. Come from a non-neurotic place, a non-volatile place. Meditate. Speak from a place of stillness and embrace division and conflict but lead with the feminine (unity). To demonize division would be attachment. Meditation Meditation is stepping out of your own way. The flower naturally blossoms left to its own devices, when you step out of its way and lower neuroticism as a result of meditation. You are beautiful when you step out of your own way. The cork floats to the surface. It is your default to blossom left to your own devices. The Method I picked up this method many years ago during a mystical experience. It served me well. Letting go and satisfaction are on the same frequency. Find a satisfying feeling in the body, then practice do nothing meditation. They feed into each other. Where there is satisfaction there is a letting go. Where there is a letting go, there is satisfaction. It's easier to find a satisfying feeling in the body and then practice doing nothing, than to practice do nothing and then feeling the satisfaction. Tap into the potential held within the satisfying feeling. The satisfying feelings in the body will grow, along with the mind's letting go. Your body will glow with satisfaction. It doesn't only have to be a bodily sensation. It can be anything. Beautiful energies, the breath (particularly out breath), sexual energy, reality itself (advanced), etc. Satisfaction draws more satisfaction. Even larger forms of satisfaction. Bodily sensation is one of the most potent ways. Can be difficult to access though. In terms of access, here's what I do (in order): 1. Satisfaction from reality itself (access point) 2. Satisfaction from bodily sensation. If I can't reach bodily sensation then the breath or sexual energy. 3. Satisfaction from beautiful energies. . How to write this without sounding arrogant or proud while dispersing possible misunderstandings? What I mean by "BEING" is a very high level of consciousness. It is not necessarily all mental masturbation when people write of their experiences and insights. I recognize when people are speaking in the absolute. I'm sure others have a high level of consciousness and are writing of their own experiences of that. The only time I 'meet' someone with my level of consciousness is when it's reflected back to me in visions and dreams. From that perspective and in my experience and knowing, I have a very high level of consciousness as baseline. Although I still realize that I have quite a bit more integration work to do regarding the divine masculine and divine marriage, as well as growth in the relative or human sphere of concern.

I think people like Carl Jung were trying to use theory to understand and booster 'the meek and the small'. Perceivers, specifically INFPs, frequent the mental health system quite regularly and don't quite fit into our ESTJ society. I remember reading a quote somewhere where Carl Jung said the introverted perceiver's strength and organization lies in his internal world rather than the external. INFPs are most likely to 'ruminate', self-reference, and commit suicide of all types I think and yet people like Jung and Tolkien went out of their way to understand them and their strengths assuming them to be equals in their society that can so easily demonize and pathologize them.

The assumed premise that a good way to do spirituality is to try to encapsulate it in a few defined terms is quite a bit of the problem here. It creates a strawman. I won't pretend to know all the answers. All I know is that when I see my lounge and the ground, I internally fall to my knees in reverence. It influences how I see things. I have an inner knowing about my own place in the greater scheme of things and I am often somewhat non-functional. I can sense my place.

Honestly, what is the point of spirituality and spiral dynamics and all this talk of a 'bigger picture' if no one can get this basic premise? That the meek and the small are not necessarily less evolved and less enlightened in the greater scheme of things. When you step outside your own ego and your own maps and science, the significance of others' value in the greater scheme of things becomes clearer. The world is more nuanced than boxes of 'functional' and 'non-functional'. Many of the supposed 'non-functional' have something to offer and are functional is the greater picture. But they are silent about it. How can they speak on something so complex, how can they champion themselves when they have so many struggles? This is a serious problem. The functional are loud. They have no problems championing themselves and so their point of view is the majority rule and very attractive for an ego to unconsciously adopt their perspective.

Exactly. Functionality is not something to aspire to as much as non-functionality is. There holds a place in this universe for the small and meek or adolescent or non-functional or non-powerful. Happiness and nirvana are often given to the unlikeliest of creatures. Divine order.

You seem to have very high social intelligence and awareness to me. I think your level of social intelligence is highly developed, almost intimidating. Hope you don't take that the wrong way. I think people can even resent you for your ability to so easily 'outmanoeuvr' them in that area with your social intelligence and innocence.

Abraham Hicks.

I've found grounding work and general interaction with my environment and people helps me to emerge back into the physical. My physical illness and other challenges I face are withdrawing me to the non-physical (according to AH's theory on illness and cognitive delay). I'm not kidding when I say that my cognition has taken a plunge this year. Flow state or alignment may also be a factor. I don't seem to have as many delay issues with my partner or while writing and in both cases I'm in flow state most of the time.

"Intuitive" in the above case could mean more intellectual types such as enneagram types 5 and 6. My partner is 6w5 ENTJ apparently. An NT 6w5 is quite a bit more 'heady' and intellectual than an NF 9w1 gut type. "Se" in this case can be explained as being 9w1: 9 THE PEACEMAKER The Easygoing, Self-Effacing Type: Receptive, Reassuring, Agreeable, and Complacent 9w1 traits: Calm Content Balanced Simple Innocent Soft-spoken Soft natured Accepting Pure of heart Kind Meek Virtuous

INFP 9w1 archetypes: The ingenue The Ingenue is a young virginal woman with the purity of a child. The Ophelia "In Real Life mental illness is rarely pretty, but in fiction, there's just something about a lovely young woman, often with long, disheveled hair, running around babbling lyrically about the strange visions flashing through her deranged mind, singing creepy little rhymes, scattering flowers and occasionally bashing people's heads in. A tragically beautiful, ethereal waif who's mad as a box of frogs. Her beauty is an important point here, underlining her fragility and the sadness of her fate. She usually talks in riddles and rhymes, can be sad or joyfully happy (or switch between these states). There's often a surprisingly artistic bent to The Ophelia's madness; she may sing, dance wildly, or try to paint her delusions. She may wear white and look extra ghostly and wraithlike. She would often be an Unkempt Beauty because crazy people usually don't care about trendy clothes and make-up." The Empath "Being able to tell how people are secretly feeling is okay too, right? Right?... While this sometimes makes for an impressive combat power, it does make the Empath an excellent Confidant for their teammates... one who knows all of their secrets, and can use them against them." Princess classic "When we think of a Princess, the most common association is the archetypical princess, the perfectly good, innocent, and beautiful princess, who is practically a saint with a royal title. These are largely associated with Fairy Tales, and are considered to be as old as those types of stories. Actually, this character started in the Victorian Era. In that time when stories were being shaped by Disneyfication and Bowdlerization, the concept of courtly love was warped to take all the sexual sub text out, and turn the noble lady into an ideal of the times. All to provide only the most positive and uncomplicated image to children, and even adults as well."

@Tyler Robinson I agree, trolling and bullying has occured in the journalling subforum. It's up to Leo as the head moderator on here to create and enforce boundaries that address this problem. If he doesn't do anything, then it will remain the way it is. He's the only one who can address this issue on here. The other moderators can only do what they can within the parameters that Leo provides them to utilize. This is his community at the end of the day. He's the final leader.

INFP 9w1 energy: Radagast:

INFP I paid $50 for the official MBTI test on MBTIonline. Joseph took the test for me since I can't self-type. I got INFP. I'm on the border between S and N and, T and F. My I and P is strong (very likely).

Belle from the movie "Ryuu to Sobakasu no Hime" is an INFP 9w1 sp/so. Very close to my own type. IxFP 9w1 so/sp? I absolutely adore her character! ""U" is a popular social media platform where people can create a virtual persona and start a new life. Among its five billion users, one newcomer is quickly gaining attention: Belle, a beautiful singer whose alluring melodies slowly capture the hearts of the masses. But in this space where everyone hides behind an avatar, curiosity arises over who the mysterious girl truly is. Suzu Naito—a shy girl from the countryside—can no longer sing following past trauma, all her efforts resulting in breakdowns and illness. However, when Suzu joins U, she is once again able to project her voice. Under the alias "Belle," her vocals soon go viral, receiving both love and hatred. Meanwhile, rumors spread of a chaotic beast within U, known only as "The Dragon." After a chance meeting during her concert, Belle finds he is not as evil as the stories suggest. Now, both online and in the real world, Suzu has to face the struggles of identity, fame, and opening one's heart."

ISFP I think I'm going to have to agree with this typing overall. Joseph and I ran through the descriptions of INFP and ISFP and we both agreed that ISFP fit me best. I noted in our discussions with him that he often describes that I am just 'Being' in my feminine, while he is talking. That I am resting, 'Being'. Sounds like Se to me. I am being in the moment, while he is analyzing and theorizing. I often feel kind of out of my element with intuitives, although I have a twin flame kind of friendship with them. We are on a different wavelength. I am in the moment, while they are in the mind. It can be a very fruitful relationship though, we balance each other out. What does beautiful sex look like? I've seen sex videos that were actually surprisingly impressive. There was one in which the woman had a particularly womanly and motherly aura about her. The man had an aura of authority and detachment that I found attractive. The woman would pull the man into her, cradling him in her arms as she made soft encouraging sounds. He would detach his energy from her, hesitating and she would curl into him, softly encouraging him to reengage, which he would, with all of his strength and love. They would repeat this, over and over again and I found it mesmerizing. Social Settings I'm learning through trial and error what kind of social settings work for me and what kind of social settings do not work in my favour. I find this 'social setting' in my journal with minimal contact but in which I can fully express myself without social pressure but leave an imprint of sorts within a meaningful social sphere with some feedback is an ideal social setting. Faster-paced social settings can leave a sour taste in my mouth. I'm fundamentally a loner who just wants to focus on her own path. Flashbacks I've been having flashbacks to my teenage years recently. A time in which I was socially rejected and seen as less than worthy. 'Desperate, weak-minded', those words echo in my mind. God. I would rather feel anything but this way. But then I ask myself, where does my sense of self-worth and sense of grounding these days lie? I think it lies in keystone habits, in right action, and in my spirituality. Writing and art. Anything which helps me to ground and feel steadiness and lean back my energy. I tend to lean forward in my energy in social settings. Writing and art naturally lean my energy back. So does right action in general. . "The feminine is about dancing all around the place however she wants. The Masculine is about watching this dance and protecting her." "This is true...but sometimes they switch places. The Masculine can be dancing around the place trying to build and erect things, and the Feminine watches this dance and protects him." . As I age, my cognitive issues are becoming more numerous and my stage in density more obvious. I want to know how I can be of service as a result of that as I age. Lower density is feminine according to some systems of thought. Stronger systems are masculine, weaker systems are feminine. Weaker systems inspire compassion and unconditional love. They are teachers of unconditional love and compassion according to many spiritual teachers on this planet. They raise the collective consciousness of the planet by their mere presence through the conviction of others' consciences. They inspire others to protect and serve. Especially if the individual in question with limitations has gone out of their way to evolving to the best of their capacity. Weaker systems such as children and animals and lower density beings on this planet are the vibrations holders on this planet. They keep the peace. According to Abraham Hicks animals and lower-density beings are naturally connected to God compared to Adult/neurotypical individuals. The Gentleman The 'alpha male' in my personal experience (from mystical experiences) is a gentleman of the highest order, and yet with ferocious enthusiasm and activity. He is light as a feather, humorous, almost floating on air. He dashes here and there but his attention is startlingly focused and present. He will never humiliate the feminine in broad daylight, nor ignore her beautiful dance. He is protective and bestows upon her a ray of love to fill her center with self-love so that she may speak and act from a place of strength and honor. He is a gift from the heavens to strengthen her at her weakest. A pillar of calm and balance and peace, he listens to the feminine's concerns and weakest points with utmost non-attachment, withdrawing when it is appropriate. His love and sexuality are strong and poetic; he will come on heavy and fast with a very poetic and creative style of entry. . "Isn’t permanently rewiring you brain to be fully present a bigger goal than short glimpses?" "It's not a matter of duration. You are focused on the wrong factor. The most relevant factor is Consciousness. How conscious are you? It is of little consolation to be mildly conscious permanently. Ideally you would be highly conscious permanently, but that's a tall order to fill. You gotta start somewhere. So at least start with being highly conscious for 5 minutes so you even know what is possible. What you ultimately want is the consciousness of God. So just pursue that and see how far you get. Meditation will still be necessary." - Leo Gura Flower I was thinking and I realized whatever capacity I am set at, it is beautiful. I am like a flower. I may be limited but I am beautiful. I am blossoming and evolving and flowing with reality at my level of capacity. I feel content with where I am currently at. I make peace with my cognitive issues and choose evolution. The Flower's Beauty The flower's beauty is composed of no ego (lower density strength) and choosing growth and evolution where choice is available despite illness and challenges (my cognitive issues). Standing in both those qualities and knowledge of these qualities resolutely despite my challenges and despite potential bullying (because of said challenges) further solidifies these qualities. I have past experience of standing resolutely in the knowledge of these qualities in the presence of bullying and was able to transform a negative situation into something else. First Voice 'Visions' is a far safer description I find than anything else (like self-referencing. It's just a vision). I'm having visions. Visions of what is to come; precognition. Visions of what others may possibly feel and think. It's a bit like a tarot reading on the go. It stems from the first 'voice' or angel (all beings or lifeforms). All beings or lifeforms are this first voice and all speak from this first voice that is a representation of Oneness. All are divine if you look closely. The representation or first voice and Oneness meld together, they are not so separate, they have a likeness, so it may be difficult to tell them apart. It becomes more obvious once the first voice SPEAKS and the voice evolves into more than just a first voice.

@Tahuti You spit so much truth and then you speak this... stuff. Low IQ? Let these people have their say. Your truth still stands.

Intuition or vision told me to do 1-5 seconds of proper meditation every 1 minute for 1-2 hours every day because I have terminal ADD. feels natural. Doesn't feel strained no pressure, 0 resistance blowing open ability maximum capacity enjoyment trumping everything else can reach deeper levels of consciousness with ease inspired to go deeper once you start

How much time do you have?

What no one seems to want to admit to is that the forum went downhill not just because of some kind of issue with the structuring of communication but also the leadership quality. The leadership was overruled unconsciously by the collective. You should do everything you can to fix yourself and your management team up before looking to fix externally.

I was active. No longer a participant. Never did much 'bullying'. It's fascinating how these kinds of discords suck the participant in. We would often joke about it being a cult but all joking aside a strong masculine figurehead is a tempting offer for self-development and spiritual evolution. Especially when the current one seems a teeny tiny lackadaisical. Someone with high enthusiasm, who is highly active. There's reasoning behind this stuff. But yeah, I get it now. Why it's tempting.

ISFP I think I'm going to have to agree with this typing overall. Joseph and I ran through the descriptions of INFP and ISFP and we both agreed that ISFP fit me best. I noted in our discussions with him that he often describes that I am just 'Being' in my feminine, while he is talking. That I am resting, 'Being'. Sounds like Se to me. I am being in the moment, while he is analyzing and theorizing. I often feel kind of out of my element with intuitives, although I have a twin flame kind of friendship with them. We are on a different wavelength. I am in the moment, while they are in the mind. It can be a very fruitful relationship though, we balance each other out.

I've seen sex videos that were actually surprisingly impressive. There was one in which the woman had a particularly womanly and motherly aura about her. The man had an aura of authority and detachment that I found attractive. The woman would pull the man into her, cradling him in her arms as she made soft encouraging sounds. He would detach his energy from her, hesitating and she would curl into him, softly encouraging him to reengage, which he would, with all of his strength and love. They would repeat this, over and over again and I found it mesmerizing.