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I’m done bickering with you. I told you you’d argue.

@LordFall I’d encourage you to be more reactive and less calculating in your response. Your modeled answers are crumbing realtime to honesty.

@LordFall I respond so quick because you make it so easy. I’m not a victim. I never said that. I have not complained about life at all. That is cope you’ve been labeling as ‘addressing my points’ while not actually addressing them. Calling my points weak or making up that I act like a victim just makes you look like a whiney victim yourself and is obvious deflection. And I don’t feel bad for you. Reconcile Polyamory and Intimacy, for example. I dare you. And when you’re done, let us know how it’s going for you and your wives and your intimacy. Or address the multitude of other points I made. OR why don’t you just actually show some vulnerability and stop acting like you have no tradeoffs. It may be the dumbest thing to try to convince us of; that you have no tradeoffs. Ridiculous.

I’ll leave you with this. You can’t have everything you want and understand the world. Guys like you are naturally an alpha in a room, not reality. You can’t build your games, craft your models, pick up chicks, run a business, be right about everything and 100% present too. While I’m living this below average life you described, I’m getting thousands of hours of contemplation and relaxation a guy like you couldn’t dream of. I like understanding more than anything. That’s what sets us apart. Keep doing what you’re doing. Just drop the intellect act with it. You don’t have the time for it to be believable. Especially, not with the balantant insults this far in. At least when I critique you, it serves a a multitude of great points. From your perspective, you’ve basically been arguing with a nobody—who you’ve had an awful lot to say to haha. Even if you were right about me. What does that say about you?

I like how you criticize stage green from below, though. It is funny. Not saying you don’t have yellow qualities and to be fair you’re weaponizing a model without yet realizing the limitations of models, obviously. So, there are layers of irony.

It is always so odd when someone resorts to calling you mediocre, a troll, criticizing you as a person, your communication style, etc.

The point about intimacy, for example—you went to mentioning 4 billion other girls. Is your plan to be intimate with all of them? You use words very definitionally, sure. Do you know what intimate means?

@LordFall Are you done criticizing my communication style instead of engaging with it?

@LordFall You literally just did exactly what I said you would do, almost word for word. I named tradeoffs; you called them mediocrity and said I dislike competence. Thanks for making my point for me.

And now for a special treat, since apparently tradeoffs do not exist until I itemize them for you: • Physical peace: You have said your sex drive can become so intense that looking at women causes physical pain and pushes you toward behavior unproductive to your life. • Privacy: You explicitly do not value it because your model requires publicity, branding and influence. • Freedom: Travel without financial independence becomes slavery and “blue balling” yourself rather than an experience worth having on its own terms. • Equality: You describe status as “winner takes all,” with the top man getting nearly everything while everyone else becomes irrelevant or fights for scraps. • Collaboration: An equal business partnership felt like “cucking each other” because neither man could be king. • Intimacy: Relationships are repeatedly filtered through alignment, leverage, status and whether someone fits the mission. • Stability: It remains contingent on acquiring enough competence, money and power. • Peace: It is postponed until after the next level of competence has been reached. • Humility: Criticism is routinely interpreted as weakness, projection, cowardice or a limiting belief. • Credibility: You call someone cowardly, incoherent and a troll, then claim you never insulted them. • Integrity: You define it as keeping your word while ignoring intellectual integrity when describing people who disagree with you. No diagnosis or speculation was required. These are consequences already contained in your own descriptions. Your goals are not inherently wrong, and parts of your advice are useful. The problem is that whenever your model produces pain, compulsion, rivalry, exposure or instability, you redefine the cost as insufficient competence and prescribe more of the model. That is not a framework without downsides. It is a framework designed to prevent its downsides from counting.

@LordFall “Jarvis, all weapons are a go.” My point is simple: your model has tradeoffs. Privacy, peace, stability, intimacy, humility, credibility and integrity can all suffer through the relentless pursuit of status, leverage and sexual abundance. The physical pain you’ve publicly described when your sex drive spikes was one concrete example I had in mind, not a diagnosis. I shouldn’t need to write an essay before you can acknowledge that downsides exist. Not wanting to unpack an obvious point for you does not mean I can’t. Your answer did exactly what I expected: absorbed every downside back into your framework, dismissed the rest as vague limiting beliefs and treated my reluctance to explain it all as proof of weakness. That is the central problem. Every criticism becomes projection, cowardice or insufficient competence, so the model never has to acknowledge a cost. My potency line was a jab. Fine. But calling me cowardly, incoherent and a troll, then claiming you never insulted me because you were merely “describing my actions,” is just giving your insults a flattering definition. You finally addressed the substance, and I acknowledge that. But you didn’t disprove my point. You demonstrated it.

“Good artists copy; great artists steal.” Don’t get sued or anything. Copy, steal, make things you already like work with other things you like. That can be a simply form of creativity and you can start to see patterns form, perhaps granting some of those fabled ‘spontaneous’ thoughts.

@LordFall You stopped responding to me again. Twice now. In the other thread you called me a white knight, I answered and you kept talking to everyone except me. Here you accused me of backing down. Inliytened jumped in without reading and said I “pussy out when pressed.” I kept answering. You called me incoherent and a troll, then stopped answering me. The irony is obvious. You’re always talking about value. Here’s mine: pointing out the tradeoffs your model of being “exceptional” barely acknowledges, including privacy, stability, intimacy, peace, humility, credibility and integrity. Some of your advice may be useful, but you devalue it when you misrepresent criticism, insult the critic and avoid answering. Your framework turns every critic into someone weak, projecting, cowardly, a white knight or unable to handle the truth. Agree with you and you’re right. Disagree and you use it as proof that you’re above them. If that sounds like berating, so be it. I’m still here. Call me cowardly again when you decide to answer. Until then, 2-0.

That’s fair. I didn’t claim to know his medical circumstances or offer medical advice—I said “maybe” because he directly connected his medical issues to being unable to get with women. My point was that even if the limitation is permanent, it doesn’t necessarily rule out intimacy or connection. Asking what he meant first would have been clearer, though. @gengar Care to elaborate?

@gengar I understand your concern. Please consider, guys like you’re worried about usually don’t have a bunch of wives. They usually do not have one wife. A lot of guys with this mindset you worry about push women right to guys with an opposite mindset, as they can crave authenticity instead of game. And a lot of these people craving group relationships misunderstand relationships and ignore diminishing returns on connection, mistaking it for something else. Another problem, that is very much just as real, is other men being discouraged because a minority gets laid a lot and acts like it is self justified or ties in an exceptional life by default. You mentioned some medical problems. Maybe you can’t have sex. Maybe you can’t change that. This is your friendly reminder, everybody loves a good listener, and a fingerblast. There are a lot of good people out there. Society is under too much stress for you or me to diagnose it. Just try to relax and connect with people.

I used to own many outfits and clothes. I am very conservative now. I own maybe 10 pairs of pants and shirts. All the same pocket tees (green or blue), multiple of the same cotton pants, shorts, etc., multiple of the same crew neck sweaters (few colors), etc. I have a couple suits, flannels, non-duplicate clothing. I find myself extremely comfortable with the npc vibe, though. The consistency of wearing the same thing all the time, everything matching, pockets, carrying a knife, keys on belt—is oddly unmatched haha.

Lmao my gym music ends up being the DOOM sound track more than I care to admit. Specifically, ‘Bfg Division.’ Brb listening to it now.

Fuck yeah

In another variety:

‘Days Like These’ by People Under the Stairs has a wholesome massage and is a groovy hip/hop rap song. I try to keep it a little more positive but this is the hip-hop/rap playlist I’ve assembled over the past few weeks: ALICE. — jev. Acid Rain — Chance the Rapper black benz. — jev. Snakes — Joey Bada$$, T’nah Apex Next Levels — King Geedorah, John Robinson, Stahhr, Stacy Epps, Invizible Handz Paper Trail$ — Joey Bada$$ Let Go — Aaron May i — Kendrick Lamar Arrow of God — CYNE New Gold (feat. Tame Impala and Bootie Brown) — Gorillaz, Tame Impala, Bootie Brown Benzi Box — DANGERDOOM, MF DOOM, Danger Mouse, CeeLo Green #asapfreedumwillyum$ — People Under The Stairs You Ain’t Gotta Lie (Momma Said) — Kendrick Lamar untitled 08 | 09.06.2014. — Kendrick Lamar The Breakdown — People Under The Stairs, Headnodic Waves — Joey Bada$$ Days Like These — People Under The Stairs Electric Relaxation — A Tribe Called Quest 1nce Again (feat. Tammy Lucas) – Radio Version — A Tribe Called Quest, Tammy Lucas Maintain — CYNE Confessions of a Dangerous Mind — Logic black samuarai. — jev. Lady Brown (feat. Cise Starr from CYNE) — Nujabes, Cise Starr freedom or fame ? — jev., Willyynova The Lightning Thief — Misc Rapp Snitch Knishes — MF DOOM, Mr. Fantastik World Domination — Joey Bada$$ Pretty Apollo — CYNE One For Me — Aaron May San Francisco Knights — People Under The Stairs Ultralight Beam — Kanye West All Falls Down — Kanye West, Syleena Johnson Ghost Town — Kanye West, PARTYNEXTDOOR Soapbox — CYNE The Rainmaker — Action Bronson, Statik Selektah Make Your Mind Up — Souls Of Mischief Montego Slay — People Under The Stairs Rhymes Like Dimes — MF DOOM, DJ Cucumber Slice The Rainmaker — Statik Selektah, Action Bronson First Person — CYNE Check the Rhime — A Tribe Called Quest The Hop — A Tribe Called Quest Everything I Am — Kanye West, DJ Premier Show Me — Joey Bada$$ Steve Biko (Stir It Up) — A Tribe Called Quest Moonlight — CYNE 2000 — Grand Puba One Beer — MF DOOM Drive Slow (feat. Kanye West & GLC) — Paul Wall, GLC, Kanye West Keep The Beat — Eric B. & Rakim

The concert ear buds (loop, eargasm, etc.) are great at noise reduction while maintaining clarity as well.

I don’t think I have autism but I wear my prescription sunglasses and noise cancelling earbuds grocery shopping/out all of the time. It’s easy enough to switch to transparency mode at the register or wherever. I also get calls a lot and like to voice search things so it is great for that as well. But I agree. Even without autism it helps me focus and it’s convenient in general to have them on me always.

My father has OCPD. He is a master welder and brilliant man. It is unfortunate society has tried to medicate/sedate his condition rather work with it. I know many people with ADD/ADHD that really are not hyperactive. They like what they like or are not compatible with sitting in a classroom for 8+ hours a day. I like disorder sometimes myself. Whether it is swimming in off seasons, like you mentioned or cold showers, random breaks in routines, walks down new paths, etc. Freeing, almost.

What is the connection to this destroying society, sorry? Trying to understand your point more.

@Monster Energy That’s funny. Want me to change my picture? I was ironically just thinking about how I’m a long-haired clean cut guy.