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A person’s worldview and values can sometimes shape interesting omissions that would otherwise just be considered odd.

The other problem is control. The mice did not control their destiny.

@LordFall Do Canadian schools include ‘1984’ ‘Anthem’ ‘Brave New World’ ‘Animal Farm’ etc. in their curriculum?

I see more psychological bypassing through intellectualization on this forum than spiritual bypassing. Spiritual bypassing is pretty obvious. Someone adopts a spiritual framework that lets them avoid an uncomfortable emotional or practical reality. But you can do essentially the same thing in the opposite direction: intellectualize everything, reduce disagreements to psychological explanations, analyze the other person’s ego, trauma, attachment, development, etc., and never actually engage with what they’re saying. That brings up a further issue where disagreement itself can become evidence of the diagnosis. Both can become ways of explaining something away instead of confronting it.

By what definition? Is power the same thing as control? Would that not be you, then, not God?

God has control? God sees a difference in these concepts? Where is this evident?

@LordFall Is that a yes or no?

@LordFall And if there is no WWIII? Would you have done everything exactly the same?

@LordFall So is ‘saving mankind’ a placeholder for something then? Perhaps, what you said about shielding? Why focus on eliminating uncertainty?

So are you saving mankind or shielding yourself from uncertainty? @LordFall

For who? The more complete path, for who? How are you personally saving mankind @LordFall? Or sure that you are? How are you sure it’s doomed?

You ever been asleep, notice you’re dreaming, but can’t wake up?

Yes, everything is identical.

Dudes trying to attractive Gen Z women coming on to me lmao JUST KIDDING

@UlaxPeople don’t bait something without interest. I’m the flattered one, really. While you guys chip from the sidelines LordFall just accepted real criticism and I’m thinking of all the ways to get off my zen ass but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Good stuff. I might even ask LordFall for some ‘bare minimum’ advice—you know the stuff he wouldn’t believe I’m not doing. Then I’ll get to tell him why I don’t care and it’s universally pointless. It could be a good relationship. He has a bunch of great ideas, I chisel them with a hammer. Not whatever we’re doing. Where’s @Inliytened1. He better have watched spaceballs. We were just starting to get along. Think he said that girl in Chicago was picking him up…

Don’t sell yourself short. I’m certainly not selling myself short. I won’t build like you. Building is your thing. We’re playing completely different games. That doesn’t mean I don’t make money or am stage green. And as you mentioned, my skills and personality are more than capable of business or picking up chicks. I don’t want to. Its funny how when you don’t have to try at something—you don’t.

@Ulax Does he seemed phased?! We’re having a good conversation. No need for bystanders to throw in chips when we’re clearly engaging with each other and getting somewhere.

Now that’s a response. Not to say you were engaging dishonestly before, but this is easier to answer because you’re focusing on your own perspective instead of telling me what’s wrong with me. What @Natasha Tori Maru said is fair, and I want to own my part too. I’m an ENFP 5w4, and authenticity, understanding, and intellectual honesty matter a lot to me. When I feel an important point is being missed, I can become intense and introduce context that feels personal or out of place. I can see how that throws people off, and I’m not claiming every inference I make is correct. Maybe next time, if you ask me for more context, I’ll provide it directly instead of responding only to the interpretation I think is being made. We both have thick skin, but we can still end up talking past each other. If I were giving dating advice and you wanted to ask how many people I’d dated, that would be fair. But that wasn’t what I was doing here. I was making a meta point about how we were handling disagreement and about the trade-offs being left out. My own experience doesn’t make that point universally true, but it does give me a basis for recognizing those dynamics. I’ve made enough mistakes in relationships and friendships to have a pretty decent sample size of my own failures lol. That’s probably the part I haven’t explained well. I may never build businesses or communities at the scale you do, @LordFall, and I’m not pretending that understanding them is the same as building them. But my strength is noticing patterns, connecting different parts of a system, and protecting the values and cognitive bandwidth that let me think clearly. Everyone develops some kind of mastery. Mine is understanding what things create, what they cost, and whether they’re worth the bandwidth they consume. That can make me seem abstract or off-topic, but it’s also why I was making the point.

@Willy Phallicus I don’t understand the point of your post. It seems like you just wanted some action so you jumped in a debate and did the cheap ‘one side is completely correct,’ game. He doesn’t have to respond. Nobody said they’re judging him or that he did something ‘wrong.’ If you don’t like the details, stay out of it. Don’t manufacture conflict.

@LordFall I respect you, man. I like your Legend of the Abyss project and what you’re doing. I think you’re smart, and I’m sure you’ve gotten real results. I’ve never disputed that, or that other people get results from your advice. When I first mentioned your potency, I wasn’t saying you’re secretly weak. I meant that you’re genuinely good at building, persuading, creating opportunities, and getting results. But that strength can become a blind spot. You can start mistaking resistance for deficiency and trying to run over people you haven’t taken the time to understand. When you tell me I have no dating life, no social circle, no communication skills, or that I made some desperate low-ROI move, none of that lands as analysis. It’s a story based on things you don’t know. That’s also why I initially didn’t want to engage. It wasn’t passive-aggressiveness or cowardice. I recognized the pattern: I would have to spend the conversation proving basic facts about myself, while you would interpret my reluctance to do that as further evidence against me. I’m an attractive guy. I’ve won awards in school for communication, I play multiple instruments, and I literally communicate for a living through maintenance, troubleshooting, and dealing with people. I’ve had large friend groups and social circles. I don’t need to explain any of that to you to qualify for a conversation, and I’m not listing it to validate myself. I’m sure many people get results from your advice, and I’m sure you’ve gotten results yourself. You may be better than me at certain things. But how do you think someone who actually comes to you for advice feels when that same force is directed at them? They may get useful advice, but they may also be getting run over by someone who is too confident in his own interpretation. That’s the trade-off I’ve been talking about. Can we please just acknowledge that without turning it into another verdict about me?

Nobody has asked for an apology. We’re having an intellectual discussion, to the best of our abilities thank you. This is the exact discourse LordFall says he likes. I don’t think he needs anybody to defend him vaguely, unless you’d like to contribute to the conversation directly.

@LordFall You’re not merely getting the sequence wrong; you’re changing the frame. I offered the story as evidence that romantic success and relational cost can coexist, and that a supposedly rational framework can conceal emotional reactions. You recast it as a case study in my scarcity and deficient social architecture. But the actual facts do not establish that I lacked options, acted opportunistically, or “sacrificed” the friendship. He stopped speaking to me when she became interested, I waited three months for the friendship to recover, and only then pursued the relationship. You are replacing the event with a story that makes me deficient, then treating that invented story as evidence for your framework. That is the self-sealing move I’ve been describing.

@LordFall By what consistent standard are calling me cowardly, barely capable of coherent adult conversation, a troll, mentally blocked, fragile, potentially delusional, and “unstable” merely “light debate friction,” while my calling that pattern bullying becomes evidence of an “unstable frame”?

Maybe I should start giving dating advice here. All I need to do is turn my sex life into a universal theory and appoint myself its leading authority.

@LordFallSo we’ve established that I get laid, I’m not shutting down, and you haven’t hurt my feelings. Have I finally cleared enough of your invented deficiencies for you to engage with the actual argument? You’ve been given countless opportunities.