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Environment can also affect hormones. Hormones do not exist or act independently.

@Yimpa Exactly friend! 😂

@Princess Arabia Interesting. Honestly I don’t know where the idea that makeup was for men came from. But I understand what you’re saying. Makeup has become the norm, it seems. It’d be like saying ‘brush your teeth to look sexy.’ Nobody brushes their teeth to look sexy. We just brush our teeth and that happens to make us ‘sexier.’ I guess the difference could be that while makeup is just something that happens, attraction aside, it does seem to be quite altering. Not as much as implants or something but you know what I mean? When I say I’m not attracted to it - my personality loves simplicity. Make up doesn’t ‘have to be done’ and a certain part of my brain rationalizes it away as bad for the skin, not needed, etc. To be fair, I do this too much, admittedly. Makeup is attractive to me as well. It’s when it wipes off on my sweatshirt or comes off the ‘disappointment’ sets in. I would’ve much rather just had the ‘natural’ woman. Maybe I am being picky. I know we’re all allowed preferences but I wonder if this is sensible of me or not. I just think a lot of men feel immense pressure and want to stop ‘playing the game’ entirely. Men and women can ‘level up’ but there’s not too many things a man can do as consistently and as effectively as putting on makeup. Or other things, like getting nails done, which more women seem to do than men. There’s this idea going around that porn has increased men’s expectations immensely - true. But makeup then almost does the opposite of that. Because men also don’t realize how good they could have it as every girl seems so far out of our league, as makeup and the other things mentioned enable any girl with some extra money to look like a super model.

@Leo Gura I agree with the others. I check the blog almost everyday. At least once a week. Love it - love it. I enjoy the variety. From something educational, to interesting or funny. There really is a little bit of everything with it. I guess thats just us liking you as a person though!

@Princess Arabia So, might I ask, do you think more women wear make up because they personally enjoy the way it makes them look or because they’ll attract more men? Or both equally? Because I feel like the majority of women do wear makeup. Maybe there’s some trend where some percentage of women wear less make up once in a relationship - I don’t know. This could explain a category of people not engaging because of misconceptions of what is expected of them. I think something similar can be said for men that believe they need a great paying job to even speak to women.

@Princess Arabia I appreciate that. He is just being obnoxious like I was not to long ago. It’s all good though.

@Princess Arabia You have helped me reimagine this. You're right, it's not inauthentic if it's what makes the girl feel good. What I should have said is, I cannot relate. I am... ...very comfortable with the way I look. I couldn't imagine really changing much. I'm not super attractive, I just don't really feel the need for any social norms or anything, for better or worse. For instance, I just grew out my hair for like two, three years. Everyone said I looked great. I was getting a lot of attention. And it got hot out. And I just shaved it all. Because I was sick of brushing it as well. Everyone was mad at me. I forgot I cut my hair the day after I cut it. Other than the fact that I was just more comfortable. I've been wearing the same pack of Hanes t-shirts, plain, for years. I'm clean, but I don't have the need for fashion anymore. I used to buy outfits. I bought good outfits. I used to get complimented on my fashion. All I care about is people. And their personalities now. So when a girl puts on makeup, or does something to impress a guy, whatever it is, I guess I just feel like most people are trying way too hard. And I don't relate with that. Nobody's being inauthentic. Like I said, I was wrong about that. For the record, I get uncomfortable when I see men playing social games and stuff as well. It might not be in the form of makeup or fashion, but trust me, I know the ways men talk and the way men lie, and it's just a different side of the same coin. I just can't relate because I'm not attracted to men, so it's not as personal of an occurrence or observation for me.

@Spiritual Warfare Actually I criticized you, there was public agreement from others and now you’re whining and trying to get an upper hand on me or something. No clue what you’re saying really. If you’re done with the insults, you started a good conversation and I’d like to resume that. Listen, I was being obnoxious before. I get it.

@Spiritual Warfare Emotions aren’t a sign of weakness; they’re what makes us human. But if it makes you uncomfortable, maybe you're the one who should step out.

@Princess Arabia No I do not blame you, ladies. But please remember I said it is wrong for me.

@Spiritual Warfare I am trying to find your value in this conversation, beyond absurd, uncomfortable comments, remarks, and photos. I am not trying to be rude or obnoxious again and I see how I was before. I just can’t help but notice how incredibly uncomfortable you’ve made me in this thread.

@Princess Arabia Yeah this is just dead wrong for me. Maybe I should stop speaking for other men but I really find this quite offensive and it saddens me to hear such a harsh take on men.

@Princess Arabia I shouldn’t have generalized. But I was speaking for myself. I do not find any of ‘that’ attractive. I am probably wrong and most men probably do find it attractive. And there is plenty of evidence in your favor.

@MsNobody Perhaps I am an outlier. I crave authenticity. Makeup feels inauthentic.

@Princess Arabia And a lot of men are sexless because nobody comes along. Men don’t get to wait for the right partner.

I have never found any of this attractive or talked to a man that has. Of course men will settle. However, none of these things are what a man wants. Men will choose the natural version of beauty over its artificially enhanced counterpart 9 times out of 10.

@Emerald Did you read my analogy about the food banquet earlier? I think there’s more than a subtle effect being had with sex being easier for women.

My bad. Sorry everyone.

I don’t know how old we are or where we’re from, so things may differ. But I am a young adult male in the US. Yes - most men have no idea if what they’re doing is correct in the bedroom. And most of it is missed through lack of foreplay as mentioned. Also lack of patience, just wanting to get laid, ED, etc. Most importantly it is missed through lack of experience. Men and women in the US are suffering due to gross misunderstandings and having less sex because of it. ———————— Do we not see the difference in our problems? You ladies are complaining about how you get laid and we men are complaining about if we get laid. Because you ladies know you’ll get laid soon enough, as us men wonder how we’ll get laid next. This is the whole genders game!!! I’m not complaining!!! We both know the sex has to line up soon in the relationship. Naturally, unforced. But how we get there is the difference between a cat and a bird!

Imagine men and women are both seeking nourishment at a banquet. The banquet represents emotional and physical fulfillment. Women, in this analogy, are like chefs with access to a wide variety of ingredients. They can curate, choose, and wait for the best meal because they have more access to the process. They know that when they make a choice, it will be a meal worth savoring, carefully selecting what will truly fulfill them in the long term. Men, on the other hand, are like scavengers in a sense. They’re trying to find a satisfying meal but are often left hungry or with fewer options. So, when they finally find something to eat, even if it’s not the best quality or what they were hoping for, they grab it out of hunger. As a result, this can give the impression that men only care about the quantity of food, not the quality, when really they’re just not given the same access to nourishment.

@Emerald We agree women and men are lustful. Please consider alternate reasoning for men’s behavior though. You say we’re compelled. I agree. Compelled means forced or obligated. This implies a fundamental, external circumstance applying some pressure to men’s behavior. What is this pressure? Men don’t know when or if they get laid soon. That is the pressure. Women know they can get laid whenever they want. Obviously, safety, timing, social statues, etc. are all still factors. But those are separate worries. Getting laid is easy for a woman. That is why you guys don’t masturbate the way we do and why we can’t just consider self pleasuring - separate from sex - as you mentioned. If you didn’t know when or if you could get laid OR if you simply had to pursue instead of wait/choose - you’d get a lot crazier masturbating too. But it’s just different games. I’m not complaining and I do not envy women’s side of things either. But to use your analogy of wine and sex… most men can afford beer… sometimes. If they could afford the wine and open a nice bottle just for a taste - they would. But wine is expensive. And the pursuit of women is costly (emotionally), leading to a spiral that all to easily takes over the status quo.

Men are truly gratified the same way, through the same relationship patterns and same passionate sex as women. It couldn’t be any other way. Everything else is a game.

@Emerald You’re missing the point that - yes, while men fall into the pattern you describe: 1. Not healthy for them. 2. Not a choice or preference. 3. Is a product of getting less sex on average than the average woman.

@Emerald Leo beat me to the punch. But I’ll still give my 2¢ as someone who has been quite intrigued by this matter myself. First, I must say, your description of sex is almost exactly how I feel about it. I have felt my take is more feminine, for a man, however. Then again, most men do not look into their minds and emotions as much as some of us here. So many men do not even understand what they want. I think they want what you described as well. Like Leo said, there’s levels of itch. But I’d say there’s just levels of emotional capacity for men. Almost every guy I’ve met that has slept around a lot is playing a role. One they are almost never happy with. They usually had some dysfunctional family and/or idea of what love is. Also, women get pursued. Men have to pursue. If we stop pursuing it is hard to resume. So, many men, getting results, convince themselves of anything to not stop pursuing. It is like a drug or how people with lots of money feel they need more. Except it’s guys acting like they aren’t lonely or not knowing they are lonely, because they’re having sex with lots of women and ‘shouldn’t be’ lonely. But also the number of people having sex, especially for men, has gone down substantially. If that isn’t a sign men want more than scooby doo sex than nothing is.

@Adam M Everyone has heard about your celery juice enough. You begged Leo to admit he didn’t know what he was talking about. Turns out he has read the books and tried what you speak of. Responding the way you have is delusional. Maybe your juice works. For Leo and most people it doesn’t - get over it or call us all liars already. Your disrespect practically has already.