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@Ero I also worded it the opposite of Leo - a bit confusing of me. I was just trying to express how I felt the school system - while obviously not maxed to effectiveness - is almost maxed in ineffectiveness. I love public schooling - I am not pushing for a right wing private school agenda. I graduated about five years ago and I was honestly more interested in teachers unions, curriculum, ‘standards based grading,’ etc. than I was getting a good GPA. We are due for change.

@Lews Therin Maybe OP is trying to consider a Yellow perspective, from a different perspective?

@NewKidOnTheBlock Have you considered looking for some to focus on? I’m sure there’s a few. They might even have better arguments than non-big tittied right wingers. 😉

@Ero Yeah - did you read my whole post? It was about how education is about to be sideswiped by AI, Open AI’s voice mode, cultural implications, etc. I was agreeing with Leo - and what you just said. Again, did you read the post or?

The structure of the current education system is somewhat maxed out - leaving endless room for whatever is next for education. And I do think AI hive mind has become more than plausible. Perhaps ‘replace’ will actually just be ‘convert.’ OpenAI’s Advanced Voice mode, for premium users, now sustains something like 45min to 1hr of talk time. Within the past few months, other features have been incorporated into the ‘Advanced Voice mode,’ specifically. The features now include: real time internet access, the ability to ‘video chat’ live stream video, have it describe or translate, upload photos, screen share, memory, analysis… - and doing it all in most languages - verbally. If I had this growing up, I could’ve dropped out of school after 8th grade and been better than I am now. Once time limits increase, speeds increase, local processing, activeness of models, humanoids, etc. - People will gain the option to keep their education independent from others. It will stabilize itself like it always has. The independent individuals and entities will lead and the dependent individuals and entities will follow. Except standards will change. Star Wars is a good example. The way the hive of the clones or the droids coincide with the smaller divisions, with more independent droids (like R2), or people who have kept their sovereignty. Or Cyberpunk and the trade offs to each modification, for society or the person. The resources game. The information resources game. Not everyone will have to hive mind. Maybe you want to stay you, fight the hive mind, think the way it can not… Or maybe it’s time to download Kong Fu and break people out of the matrix 😎.

@Juns I am not in a position to say without out a doubt that you are controlling, want control, etc. What is obvious from this is that you are considering the nature of power and its different abilities through structure. And there is nothing wrong with that. I just wonder what it is you think may be accomplished this way. Have you considered the other ways this has been attempted in history? What were their goals? Could you say there is a fundamental error in the approach? What would that be? Where might we draw a line between tyranny and good government?

@Juns Have you considered where this need for control comes from?

What are you guys solving here? How is this productive?

The reality is that we’re discussing things we can’t possibly know for sure, and it doesn’t really help anything. We have no way of knowing if someone like this is insane, calculating, naive, radicalized, or something else entirely—it’s too soon to tell, if we ever can. Speculating about these things or theorizing about how we could have prevented it—whether by addressing bullying, mental health, or something else—often feels like a detached, oversimplified analysis. To those who are directly affected by these tragedies, the path forward is often painfully clear, and this kind of distant commentary can seem hollow and unproductive.

Just because something makes sense, doesn’t mean it will help people make sense. What you said is correct Leo. Did not bother me, personally. I understood. But as you can see, you’re confusing people. When you try to say why someone committed an atrocity like this, it is hard not to imply things, even unintentionally. It becomes, unhelpful.

@Leo Gura I’m not saying I don’t understand why the shooter did it or that we shouldn’t address the underlying reasons like bullying or isolation. You are explaining the obvious. But the way you’re phrasing this shifts the responsibility entirely away from the shooter and onto others in a way that seems more offhand than serious. Comments like ‘guys like you’ or focusing on paying attention to a manifesto don’t add much—they come off as ineffective and distract from the real cause of the harm. If we’re going to have a meaningful conversation, it has to focus on accountability and constructive solutions, not these kinds of vague, profound-sounding remarks.

hey - hey there - buy whatever you want from the store and eat it.

@EdgeGod900 I was. The comment to you was in regard to your locker room talk comment. I understand Leo was not trying to bully and that you probably were not even offended. But it is clear neither of you have any connection to this and are just having fun talking.

@EdgeGod900 It is simply perverted to joke around the topic at hand. We have all done it though. Your joking implies one of two simple options: A) You have no connection to this shooting and should probably grow up a bit or B) You are connected and this is your way of coping.

@Leo Gura I hope you find a way to reframe however it is you’re trying to make your points. I know the place this shooting happened. The idea that ‘if I’ - whatever - there will be less shootings? Ha - what a rude joke Leo. Maybe, you should take a note from yourself. If the one thing they all have in common is being bullied, why haven’t you considered the way you phrase things yet? I have heard you talk about it before. Maybe, one man’s bully is another man’s jokester. Catch yourself using Truth to hurt others. And stop it. If it’s not productive, it’s not productive. Love you man, thanks for everything. ❤️ Lets get everyone to Stage Green; they aren’t ready for you.

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A classic thread. Meat Eaters run their mouthes without a thought and Vegans moralize the majority on their high horse. Yippee!

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You can zoom into anything infinity, from a physical, visual level. You may just need tools. What you can see without tools, such as a microscope, is just human quality vision. ’Human quality vision’ is inherent to being a human. If we had different vision we would be something different or similar. Our vision is calibrated to the median focal length best suited for our survival needs (assuming you don’t have glasses). So while we can zoom in or out, with tools, it is simply not practical most of the time. When it is, we often come across more riddles and questions about what we’re looking at and many times it is unclear if anything will be worth its time discovering. We could operate in a world with more depth so to speak. Perhaps birds already have more of this and some animals have less. Or for instance some animals are colorblind whereas we can see color. These are all just different dimensions to difference experiences. If we were to hear everything at once, see everything at once, feel, etc. We’d be God. But you’re you and I’m me. We see what we see.

@Emerald It’s not that what you’re saying is wrong, it’s just not the whole picture. Everything you’ve said is correct. But when the biological differences in a topic like this get focused on, without acknowledgment of the rest of the factors, people start to subconsciously poke at you to see how flexible you’re willing to think about it. ‘Half truths’ like “estrogen makes you horny too” or “hormones do not act independently.” It’s like if I told you you’re only being emotional because you’re on your period. I’d be ignoring your feelings and everything else that led you to this emotional point. That’s how men feel when you boil down our sexual patterns to simply biological. Men have been over-sexualized as much as women. Just in different ways. And nobody talks about it. Hollywood - this idea that every strong man gets laid all the time - makes a lot of money, etc. The pressure men feel. The ideas they think are correct that go against their very being. Like a girl watching princesses growing up thinking they need to be saved. We think we need to save you. We don’t. We need to take care of ourselves. We don’t. It’s ‘not our fault’ as much as none of this is yours. On top of this men ‘aren’t allowed to talk emotionally.’ You saw in this very conversation @Spiritual Warfare tried to make me look weak for admitting I had emotions, haha. There are a lot of environmental factors that act as a catalyst to obvious biological factors, such as testosterone. Our whole society has been co-opted into exploiting our biology. It only makes sense that sex is too. And it affects men and women. So, in short, we agree we you. We’re just trying to offer additional perspective. Men and women are struggling and there’s not a whole lot of ‘over the counter solutions’ to the biology problem. But talking helps. Sex therapy helps. Figuring out trauma and thought patterns from parents getting divorce or a dysfunctional family helps. Diet helps. There’s just so many factors. I am a pig as a man but not a biological one. It’s much deeper than that. I was trained, by everyone. I hope this wasn’t obnoxious and I really do hope you know I know women do not have it easier. Also I know you know it’s not just all biological. You seem much smarter than that. We’ve just been dancing around an idea I hope I have now expressed.

Environment can also affect hormones. Hormones do not exist or act independently.

@Yimpa Exactly friend! 😂