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They speak your language perfectly, yet have no bearing on how you live. You can bring it anywhere in the world, teach it anything, etc. But ultimately, you must convey human life to this being. What do you do? It knows nothing. It has done nothing you’ve done before.

My bad. Sorry everyone.

I don’t know how old we are or where we’re from, so things may differ. But I am a young adult male in the US. Yes - most men have no idea if what they’re doing is correct in the bedroom. And most of it is missed through lack of foreplay as mentioned. Also lack of patience, just wanting to get laid, ED, etc. Most importantly it is missed through lack of experience. Men and women in the US are suffering due to gross misunderstandings and having less sex because of it. ———————— Do we not see the difference in our problems? You ladies are complaining about how you get laid and we men are complaining about if we get laid. Because you ladies know you’ll get laid soon enough, as us men wonder how we’ll get laid next. This is the whole genders game!!! I’m not complaining!!! We both know the sex has to line up soon in the relationship. Naturally, unforced. But how we get there is the difference between a cat and a bird!

Imagine men and women are both seeking nourishment at a banquet. The banquet represents emotional and physical fulfillment. Women, in this analogy, are like chefs with access to a wide variety of ingredients. They can curate, choose, and wait for the best meal because they have more access to the process. They know that when they make a choice, it will be a meal worth savoring, carefully selecting what will truly fulfill them in the long term. Men, on the other hand, are like scavengers in a sense. They’re trying to find a satisfying meal but are often left hungry or with fewer options. So, when they finally find something to eat, even if it’s not the best quality or what they were hoping for, they grab it out of hunger. As a result, this can give the impression that men only care about the quantity of food, not the quality, when really they’re just not given the same access to nourishment.

@Emerald We agree women and men are lustful. Please consider alternate reasoning for men’s behavior though. You say we’re compelled. I agree. Compelled means forced or obligated. This implies a fundamental, external circumstance applying some pressure to men’s behavior. What is this pressure? Men don’t know when or if they get laid soon. That is the pressure. Women know they can get laid whenever they want. Obviously, safety, timing, social statues, etc. are all still factors. But those are separate worries. Getting laid is easy for a woman. That is why you guys don’t masturbate the way we do and why we can’t just consider self pleasuring - separate from sex - as you mentioned. If you didn’t know when or if you could get laid OR if you simply had to pursue instead of wait/choose - you’d get a lot crazier masturbating too. But it’s just different games. I’m not complaining and I do not envy women’s side of things either. But to use your analogy of wine and sex… most men can afford beer… sometimes. If they could afford the wine and open a nice bottle just for a taste - they would. But wine is expensive. And the pursuit of women is costly (emotionally), leading to a spiral that all to easily takes over the status quo.

Men are truly gratified the same way, through the same relationship patterns and same passionate sex as women. It couldn’t be any other way. Everything else is a game.

@Emerald You’re missing the point that - yes, while men fall into the pattern you describe: 1. Not healthy for them. 2. Not a choice or preference. 3. Is a product of getting less sex on average than the average woman.

@Emerald Leo beat me to the punch. But I’ll still give my 2¢ as someone who has been quite intrigued by this matter myself. First, I must say, your description of sex is almost exactly how I feel about it. I have felt my take is more feminine, for a man, however. Then again, most men do not look into their minds and emotions as much as some of us here. So many men do not even understand what they want. I think they want what you described as well. Like Leo said, there’s levels of itch. But I’d say there’s just levels of emotional capacity for men. Almost every guy I’ve met that has slept around a lot is playing a role. One they are almost never happy with. They usually had some dysfunctional family and/or idea of what love is. Also, women get pursued. Men have to pursue. If we stop pursuing it is hard to resume. So, many men, getting results, convince themselves of anything to not stop pursuing. It is like a drug or how people with lots of money feel they need more. Except it’s guys acting like they aren’t lonely or not knowing they are lonely, because they’re having sex with lots of women and ‘shouldn’t be’ lonely. But also the number of people having sex, especially for men, has gone down substantially. If that isn’t a sign men want more than scooby doo sex than nothing is.

@Adam M Everyone has heard about your celery juice enough. You begged Leo to admit he didn’t know what he was talking about. Turns out he has read the books and tried what you speak of. Responding the way you have is delusional. Maybe your juice works. For Leo and most people it doesn’t - get over it or call us all liars already. Your disrespect practically has already.

Also, there is no metaphysical bottom of reality.

Physics is practically the opposite of metaphysics. Physics will actually get in the way of metaphysics.

Hello Friends My father has been deemed ‘unfit for work.’ He needs a doctor’s note to be able to work again. He will not get that note. He is in his upper 50s working a labor intensive job and has not been taking numerous meds for 5+ years, ranging from diabetes insulin to blood pressure to depression meds. I don’t even know how he’s alive. He has had an A1C so high it doesn’t register in the device. He’s essentially had a poisonous amount of sugar in his blood for years. Now he will loose his job. There’s much more to it. A lot happened.. he wasn’t always like this. I feel like I have failed. I know I haven’t. He won’t except help. I am trying to get a hold of my sister now. She’s thirty something and I’m in my early twenties. I feel I should call a wellness check. That’s why I want to talk to my sister. I don’t want what to do. He’s been suicidal before. That’s all. A know it’s not much of an explanation but I just wanted to type something out here. Appreciate you guys. Actualized has kept me alive through some tough years growing up, figuring things out. Lots of good people here.

This was too much for the forum. My bad guys. Everything will work out. I should’ve known I wouldn’t want to take the time to explain why everything everyone suggests won’t work. And I don’t then want to get caught in a loop of rationale where I sound like he is hopeless. It’s like I’ve been studying a map for years and now I’m traveling it. I’m prepared as ever. But I’ve never been here. I must let it all go. The worry, the wonder; it is dying.

@Joshe Thank you friend. He’s not quite to that point. But I think he might be more than he alludes to and I don’t know how to work with him. Trying to make sure I don’t feel guilt if something happens to him. Something happening to him seems more and more likely.

Trying to keep calm and not upset him. Feel free to ask questions. This feels like a sort of turning point for me. Can’t fully explain it yet. Dad was a big motivator into pursuing enlightenment and such. I’ve known how this would play out. I couldn’t have stopped it. But we’re left to wonder.

Why are we trying to solve a problem for kids that shouldn’t be on these media platforms anyways? Seems to me just not allowing the kids to be on there in the first place makes a lot more sense and is easier.

It’s just as amazing in the other direction. I could just say ‘a true and honest liberal would be concerned about the inability to express information spread in society.’

@Yimpa I actually had my definitions mixed up- it’s not negative reinforcement, it’s not positive reinforcement and it certainly isn’t both lol. It is just punishment to censor.

@Buck Edwards I get that… censoring people is not positive reinforcement, it is negative reinforcement.

The problem is, the people propagating the views that should be censored do not understand censorship is not a serious danger. How does poking and prodding them with censorship help them at all? Doesn’t it just radicalize them more?

And by that time we wouldn’t be able to have this conversation

@Dodo A few years ago, I became the devil. I took responsibility for all of this rape and suffering people are speaking of. I had terrible dreams of doing things I could’ve never imagined. Things I never have and never will do. I cried that whole day. I just remembered this day. It took so long to integrate it into my life, to forgive myself. But there I was crying that day. With months of confusion to come. I was perhaps 17 or 18, taking responsibility for killing, wars, lies, deception. Clear as day, I saw how it was all done and I could see myself doing it. Like you could understand a white lie from someone. My mental health was terrible. I knew I didn’t do these things personally but I knew even deeper that in some sense or another it was still my responsibility. So I took responsibility.

@Keryo Koffa I like you Keryo. You opened my mind a bit. I like how seriously I take this forum but every now and then something like this comes along 😂

@Dodo Oh I get it now. You think you’re separate from the evil and animals and you just want it to all go away 😂. You’re evil! Face it!

@Javfly33 So if God doesn’t decide everything in your view, what does? Conventionally, God controls everything. By definition, typically, as well.