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	And if Leo runs down the highway with just his underwear on, is this also a pattern of self expression? Look, I get what you mean and its a decent point - but can you see the other side as well? I had 3 people messaging me on instagram that day, who thought Leo lost his mind. I guess you can always subjectify your version of an actualized person towards an unachievable standard of eccentricity, but thats not the point. How do you know its self expression and not just delusion after all? You (propably) dont know him either. Those posts are odd and dont fit with his usual pattern of representation.As a public spiritual teacher with a huge audience, there is a smart and grown up way to deal with such issues. Of course you can go full "expression mode" and do whatever - However, I can already tell that he lost some people right there. If this is what he really wants to do, then fine .... There is a difference between individuated expression of someones own identity and repulsive craziness.
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	No, I completely disagree. When it comes to self-help, you can NEVER seperate the person and the content. After all, it's the person who profits from the work - its the good old waking up, growing up and showing up process Ken Wilber has been talking about for ages. The life you live, the character you reap and the insights you gain will at the end influence the person you become - its a direct function of it. If a guy teaches you how to overcome procrastination, then he better not be a procrastinator - but rather someone who overcame this obstacle. Now as I said - I am not accusing him of anything - I just critiqued his representation.
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	I am not so much concered about Leo's wellbeing because his replies on instagram and here on the forum are still pretty coherent. What's a bit irritating, to me at least, is his choice of public representation. As one of the big self-help/spiritual content creators you inevitebly take on some form of being a role model for your followers. Of course people will be interested in how Leo's life looks like - he is the one teaching you how to improve yours. After all, why would you want to follow someones advice if the person sharing it isnt at a mature level of embodiment and integrity. Why would I take anything Leo shares seriously, especially if there is a clear asymmetry between the quality of his life and the content he puts out? Now, here is where his recent instagram-posts come in. Its not that those are major red flags - but they do show some level of disconnection. Yes, its propably part of an DMT-aftermath, but thats a pretty empty excuse anyway - for obvious reasons. I also have to admit that this is not the first time I start feeling this way... It just doesnt fit the picture in my head of what an actualized person looks like and how he/she acts in this world. I have met many individuals who I would consider very fulfilled in their developement - who have figured their shit out and also share many great insights on the way. There is a certain grace & virtuosity in their vibe ...its undeniable and this is what I am kind of missing from Leo. That said, I dont know Leo and he could be amazing. Its just the impression I get from him sometimes... And no, this has nothing to do with being uber-conscious or above the madness. Its a simple question about relatability between a teacher and his audience. In fact, Leo demoted Nahm for this exact reason just a few weeks ago. This kind of argumentation is completely ridicolous. Again, I am not writing this to bash him - but as a long time follower (joined at ~5k subscribers) who usually apprechiates his point of view quiet a lot, its a bit strange to say at least.
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	The evidence regarding ApoB-carrying lipoproteins, cholesterol as a surrogate & cardiovascular disease progression is casually proven, beyond any doubt and by multiple lines of evidence over the last 50 years. It does not matter what youtuber X says or what some maverick doctor writes in his book - the amount of evidence is simply overwhelming. The inflammation hypothesis has, at best, some supportive elements going for it. Thousand calories sounds like wayyy too little, even if you want to lose weight. Whats your current weight/height? Whats your goal with the diet? Weightloss?
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	Having knee jerk reactions is completely normal - I have them, you have them and so does the rest of the world. The shadow work happens when you recognize the reactionary energy and use it for a deeper inquiry. Thats exactly what you just did. Way to go!
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	Most of William's claims are based on bro science or not any evdence at all. Which doesnt necessarily mean that they are wrong, but that you always have to take them with a grain of salt. Pork certainly doenst make it difficult for oxygen to travel through the bloodstream....Maybe the argument he is making is that pork affects arterial endothelial function which could end up reducing oxygen inflow into certain tissues. Pork is not a healthy source of fat, calories or protein. Chicken/fish are healthier options. Plants are (for the most part) the healthiest.
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	100% agree.
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	Thats a lot of whataboutism and irrelevant objections. Nobody (in the right mind) ever said that Tate is an innocent role model for modern musculinity. I am sure he has done some really evil stuff in his life but thats not the point. Also, what the hell are those comparisons - we are talking about mindset/self-help and achievement ...and achieving a world-title in a martial art gives you a lot of weight in those categories. Yes, winning wimbledon or being an astronaut would indicate a certain pattern of being which undoudebtly puts you in a position of having something to teach. And thats exactly our argument .... I used to partake in a programm about improving rhetoric-skills and the teacher used to analyze Hitlers speeches for learning purposes. Is it wrong to learn from Hitler speaking patterns, even though he was propably the most evil man in the 20th century? I guess not.
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	I think Tate stands out in a way because, compared to many other "thoughtleaders" in the manosphere, he actually walked the talk and achieved insanely difficult milestones in a relateively short amount of time. Let's just forget his regressive/unnuanced views for a second - winning two world titles in a martial art is, on its own, hella impressive. Creating an online membership program that makes at least 7 digits each month is also not to be taken lightly. Now put that into the context of someone who actually grew up poor, went through a lot of shit and still made it - thats even more extraordinary. So yes, he definitely is kinda special and I can respect him for just that, regardless of what he says or does otherwise. Those achievements require a certain mindset/pattern of being that has become insanely rare in our world. Tate also shares a pretty unqiue philosophy of life, which is undeniably consistent throughout his line of arguments. As I said before, I disagree with most of his regressive ideas - but I cant help to admit that some of his positons are carefully thought through and coherent. Just compare him to the other talking heads in the red pill/manosphere-community - most of them are pathologically unaware of their own heuristic. If you hold him to a 2nd tier standard, then of course he wont push the movement to new heights in your eyes. Its inherently a tier 1 subject and moving on means transcending its purpose. If absolute novelty is your benchmark, then yeah - you will just see the guy with fancy cars and hot women. There is nothing new under the sun - 99% of what current teachers in spirituality are sharing has already been said hundreds of times before. However, its the individual aspect that gives the message its weight. To boil down the whole movement to self-service & mistrust is a very postmodern (stage green) way of looking at the world. Its kinda true at the one hand but also very limited in the context of the whole picture. There is a reason why many young men are so attracted to this line of thinking and its not only because they are all egoisitc assholes who want to fuck over the world for their own benefit.
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	Think of the great yogis, saints and sages from Moses to Christ to Padmasambhava. They were not feeble-mannered milquetoasts, but fierce movers and shakers- from bullwhips in the temple, radical acts of selfless love to subduing entire countries. And they did so not because they avoided the physical, emotional and mental dimensions of humanness and the ego that is their vehicle, but because they engaged them with a drive and intensity that shook the world to its very foundations. Even hardcore neo-adveita teachers do exhibit a strong sense of personality or idendity. There is a certain pattern that wants to emerge through you - it shows in your interests, your likes, your dislikes, your aversions - in everything that isnt a concious thought, but an expression of your heart and intuition. Go out into nature. Start moving into a direction in your life and observe how it feels. Dont try to think this through. Drop the deconstruction work, do stuff in the real world. Meet friends, play an instrument, look at art. Inquire into your psyche - is there an unfulfilled longing for something? What is the thing that wants to express? What is the activity that makes you feel alive? This is great advice as well.
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	From a conciousness development perspective, I think that a big part of Tade's magnetic appeal is his rather unmitigated embodyment of some of the lower to mid tier1-stages (red, blue, orange). Aggressive, traditionalisitc, monetarily successful - and unapologetically so. He is a like a way smarter and less dogmatically religious version of Elliot Hulse. He has done shit - walked the talk, and this is what gives his arguments a lot of weight. I think that our current western cultural tendencies are deeply lacking those "lower" qualities and this is one reason why he gained so much attention in the last few years. Also, and I dont really know why I feel this way - but he is kinda likeable. I wouldnt bother having a drink or two with him - I guess it would be an interesting conversation nontheless. I cant say the same for most of the spiritual teachers I follow. Now, when it comes to a potential role model - its a difficult question. There is undoubtedly wisdom in his worldview (remember that each stage has its own set of important insights) but there is also a lot of crazy problematic shit as well - so its very limiting at its own. I dont want to live a world where every youngster is following his ideals and values. There are definitely healthier and more grown up ways to look at success & masculinity. You can have most of what he has - cars, women & success - but without the obvious misogynie/regressive paradigm and a more developed conciousness overall. I always liked Zan Perrion as a role model for healthy masculinity:
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	The cases of liver damage associated with EGCG are from concentrated green tea extract and not matcha. Feel free to drink your matcha every day.
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	Its difficult to deliberately influence the passing mechanism because thats a very complex process with dozens of factors that come into play. The respective bioavailablity of duloxetin also varies a lot and usually lies between 32% and 80% of your dose. Peak plasma concentrations are reached approximately 6 hours after ingestion of the gastro-resistant capsules. My advice: Just dont change your lifestyle-habits during the cessation-period. Keep up with your usual oral application protocol. Meaning, if you always took the pill in the morning with your breakfest, then keep doing that. Your body has already adapted to this regime, so its smart to keep it going, even if you lower the dose. Eat your usual meals and dont add other drugs or supplements to the mix. Th Smoking is a strong influencer of duloxetin metabolism - thats one to keep in mind. Also, you should be under your physicians observance. He knows best how and when to get lower. Generally, duloxetine tapers last around two weeks - but you might need an individual protocol. Cymbalta is one of the more difficult SSRI's to get off - you might experience withdrawal symtpoms. It depends on multiple factors - can be 30 minutes or 3 hours. Not really. Your gastrointestinal metabolism actually works most efficiently when you are at rest. Negligible. However, it's best tolerated when taken after a meal. Its much more important to keep the time of intake constant. Negligible. Swallow the capsule with a drink of water.
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	I love this answser
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	Sometimes the path of self-love is one which involves a strong stance against a certain condition, rather than passively accepting it. We are not talking about a birth deffect or other irreversible deformities - we are talking about androgenetic hair loss, which is treatable for the most part. Its of course not a disease, but a rather cruel joke from mother nature. Fix what you can and accept/love the heck out of that which you can't. Or dont. Its really up to the individual. You will pay a certain price regardless of your decision. What you are saying is of course, at the root of it all, true. It is a mental dynamic of insecurities, ego & conditioning. However, the path to self-love is polyaxial and sometimes, the net positive for someones life is taking the extrinsic route. I love myself even more for taking action and not just "accepting" it. I really dislike this monotonous way of seeing complex issues. OP needs to come to his own conclusions. Thats why I told him not to listen to anyones advice. It's really up to his invidual expression and patterns and not something we can chose for him. Cheers
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	Yes, especially finasteride and minoxodil work wonders. They are FDA approved for that indication. I would advice for topical solutions in both cases. Sure. You can also accept/(self-)love that you are 200kg overweight. Or you can do something about it. This might not be the same thing but both it shows that the nature of the question is not either/or. I am defintiely better off with hair than without. There is just no question about it.
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	Ignore all the advice. They dont know you. Just because someone else shaved their head and did fine afterwards doesnt mean that this is the right solution for you. I also started suffering from male pattern hair loss in my early 20's and THANK GOD I did not listen to all the family members and internet experts who told me to "just shave it bro". I am not telling you to keep your hair either. It really depends on many things - your headshape, your beard status, how much you care about being physically attractive, your job situation and so on... Some guys look way better bald than balding. Others suffer from the slaphead curse. If you want to be proactive, then there are many ways to stop and even reverse your lost hair.
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	  undeather replied to Raptorsin7's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God Neo-Advaita is a reductio ad absurdum-view on reality. Its a perspective held up as some sort of undeniable "truth". I dont think its healthy - most spiritual emergencies emerge from this particular line of thought. Intelligent people lose their way to relate wuith the world, such as seen with the sad downfall of Nahm - one of the prior actualized.org moderators. (context: https://imgur.com/3WKAELm) There are healthier ways to engage with spirituality - some which include the truth of no-self but also transcend and inclunde prior stages. You dont want to become an adveita-bear after all:
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	Our therapeutic understanding surrounding the gut-microbiome is still in its infancy. Studies about supplementation show mixed results. Our best data actually comes from stool transplants, which can be extremely effective in some patients. There are multiple case reports & anecdotes about certain individuals fucking up their micriobiome through supplementation. This can cause all sorts of issues down the road. I personally advice my patients to build up their biome through mostly food-focused resources (fermented vegetables, sourcrout, berries) and use supplemebtive solutions only in exceptional cases.
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	Thats exactly what my post is poiting to
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	Both are possible solutions. My personal go to as a MD is, first and foremost, evidence based medicine - which is mostly based on drug-related interventions. However, I think that holistic solutions are greatly underapprechiated in our modern medical paradigm - and this is especially true when it comes to mentah health conditions. It also comes down to the individual patient since everyone has different goals and ideas about the healing process. Depending on your condition and the severity of the symptoms, its perfectly fine to try alternative solutions at first. And if you want to try mainstream medication, than thats perfectly fine as well - taking a drug is not a cop out. Your decision should not be based on shame or avoiding shame - thats not how good medicine works.
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	Quite the contrary. Admitting defeat is nothing like what you just described. For me, an individual who has given up on him/herself is someone who wouldnt even consider taking any action. Its actually really brave to seek help - and this is especially true for someone who suffers from a debillitating mental condition. We do have an expanding arsenal of tools to deal with with specific issues and I dont see one reason why you shouldnt give them a try. Psychiatric drugs are real life changers in some cases, while other minds need a different approach. There is a lot of stigma around these drugs, esepcially on the internet - but its usually a lot of noise from online-experts who have no real clue about the topic, nor have they ever treated a patient. How about this: Keep the drug-approach as some sort of last resort and try out some of the alternatives to deal with your condition. You will always know that if shit really hits the fan, you can go back and take the medication. It can be your safety net and you can still put up your best fight. However, if you just want to feel better and life just sucks - you can start with the pills right now. Its not shameful, its not admitting defeat - its just one way of dealing with a condition. It doesnt mean that you should keep taking them for the rest of your life if thats what you are worried about. I know patients, who after years of consistent SSRI-therapy, got off the drug and healed their depression with a psilocybin trip. Also, keep in mind that the drug-approach doesnt mean that you stop implementing alternative add-ons. Psychophysiological practices like breathwork/meditation/yoga or NSDR can work real wonders. Movement, sun exposure and diet are also no brainers. Just never combine oral drugs with psychdelics or other nootropic/psychotropic remedies Last but not least, a small anecdote out of my own life: I started suffering from really strong allergies about a year ago. It became so bad that I could barely breathe at night - so I got myself an asthma-inhaler which I used 2 times a day. I was annoyed because I didnt want to use this stupid inhaler for the rest of my life - so I kept applying it until my lung recovered from the stress. I had similar thoughts like you described in your post. After a month or two, I started doing research and tried out some alternative treatment options. Breathwork + cold exposure managed to decrease symptom severity by about 90% and I managed to get off the inhaler after 4 months.
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	This question of right or wrong doesn't really make sense in this case. I mean - wrong for what? for whom? for which purpuse? in what quantity? in what sense?.... If we cant contextualize our qustion about food, then any answer will be inherently unsatisfactory.
