Breakingthewall

It's easy to perceive, almost everyone who's in spirituality are pursuing bliss, immortality and feel accepted . Its a kind of evasion. Then in some moment they have some experiences, they match them with everything that they ve read and they think that they know the truth, but then, after some time some crisis happens. Almost no one is on the path to real enlightenment.

When they really want it. Not bliss, or evasion, or do psychedelic to believe that they are god imagining the reality like a game. just absolute openenss. If someone really want that, means that's ready

Yes I know all of that, but then, if you really would know the truth, you would know that it's absolutely impossible that someone who's not absolutely ready for a process that is the opening of your being to the absolute reality would do it. People looks outward not inward

Yes, transparent means that for you it's the same life or death, at least for 5 minutes. You have to trick your psyche to really be able to deactivate it. The psyche is who tries to deactivate itself, it's twisted. There are strong forces that prevents it. For me it's extremely difficult, I can do just sometimes, it's like you dissapear and the whole is, but it's impossible to be in that state more than a moment. Close yes, but with some barrier, without barrier is difficult. I guess that some people can, but I'd say, very few in the entire world

What is the truth? Would you reached that truth without any belief?

Experience is reality in a given configuration. Another configuration would be non-experience. For example, if you were a stone, you wouldn't have experience, but you would be. Difficult to understand, right? From experience, we think that only experience is real. We can't think about non-experience because it's beyond the realm of the thinkable, but it is real. We need the idea of God because things happening without someone directing everything seems impossible. But it is. Infinite nature manifests itself, and consciousness is one more manifestation. If you want to open yourself to the absolute, open yourself to total death, to absolute unconsciousness, to being your essence independently of experience.

@PolyPeter seem that you want to spread a new religion

your problem is that you didn't focus on the truth, but on bliss. It seems the same, but it's very different.

Yeah, transparent, aligned, relaxed. What we call the self is the structure of our psyche. Normally, the psyche is very dense, governed by impossible-to-ignore impulses that have been cemented over millions of years of evolution. Human evolution—all struggle, drive, and social unity—come from foundations forged at the origins of life. The emotional switches we have are decisive, overwhelming, and absorbing. They are what unites families, tribes, and nations; they make people go to war to die for ideals or study the structure of the atom. Without this psyche, we would be less than rats, nothing, extinct corpses. This psyche doesn't let you see beyond what it dictates as essential. Normally, if you become spiritual, it's a shift of the psyche to evade or sublimate other emotional impulses. The true desire to break through the barrier is rare. To do so, you must see through the psyche. To say that the psyche doesn't exist and is an illusion is meaningless, confusing, and false. It's like saying you don't have a body. Stories to brainwash people into escaping their problems for a while. Spirituality is absolutely fake. To see through the psyche, you must first confront it and face your fears. Then, make a real decision, committing to yourself that you want to open yourself to the depths of existence, whatever that may be. It doesn't matter; it's real, and because it's real, you want to see and be that without obstacles. Then you find a way to do it. Little by little, you go deeper in that direction. It's a natural process.

Imagine that all that stuff about God dreaming and deceiving himself to play at being human is absolutely false, and people thinking that others are stupid because they haven't realized something that they take for granted because someone else said it and they have internalized it as their own realization, and that seen from a a external perspective shows they are doubly stupid. What stupidity would that be!

I told it clear, but you dont understand because you don't like a open frame, it's weird for the mind, people needs a limit, like god or anything .

Not true, you can open to the absolute in some moments even you are reactive and focused in some mundane things. You have to reach a minimum of alignment, integrity, then even you are not in perfect peace you can learn how to remove the barriers of the mind.

No, before I always had in mind that I had to drop the self , like, let do any mental grip, drop the understanding, I did a lot of psychedelic with that goal and a lot of meditation. then little by little, I began to reach a state where I had no mental grip. Reality becomes fluid, and you don't interpret anything. It's like you're floating in empty immensity. And if you hold that long enough, and your intention is to open up to whatever, absolute surrender, eventually you do it. You open up to yourself, you break the boundaries. At first, a moment, then longer. If you do that, it's something like: this is it, absolutely. The total, the absolute depth alive, the total potential, my true nature. But you realize that the one observing this is the structure of reality we call human. Your mind may be absolutely empty of content, but it's still your mind. It's still you. It's the human self open to the total. It's different from a fly's self open to the total. The whole is the whole, but the one perceiving it is the human form. It's not an illusion; it's meaningless. It's like saying: you're not playing tennis. That's an illusion. You are a human. No, you're a human playing tennis.

Sadhguru is a scammer in my opinion, quite evil

I don't know exactly what the self is supposed to be. You have to be able to deactivate the meaning of mental content at will, erase all meaning, which erases the emotional charge of everything. Then you can open yourself to what you are, in other words, break through the limitation. Perhaps that's the self. Anyway, that doesn't mean that nothing has meaning, but that it doesn't have any from an unlimited perspective, which is where you try to position yourself.

I think that it's possible to dissect totally the reality, just remove what is not logic Self is a confusing word. In spirituality, they say we have to dissolve the self, but really, the self is our structure at all levels. You can't dissolve it. You can align it, open it, whatever, but there's always self; you are the self in the sense of this structure. The thing is, this structure is evolving. It comes from bacteria, animals, humans, who are absolutely focused on remaining and reproducing, War, domination. All of these processes are inevitable. They're like something that rises in frequency and then lowers. It needs to reach a certain point to then be able to relax control and open its perspective. It's an intuitive process, and it requires becoming aware that you can penetrate reality, escape the magnetism of the mind conditioned for survival, at least in large part, But it's something progressive

It's as if just beneath the surface there were an ocean of moving structures, coordinating with each other down to perfect synchronicity. Right now, reality is flowing. We are reality. We can see it, grasp its essence, align ourselves with it, open our focus. Everything else is irrelevant. We put a barrier between ourselves and the flow. resistance, control. We can open ourselves completely to the flow, but first, we must align our structure. Understanding and opening are parallel. More opening, more understanding, more understanding, more opening.

The problem with spirituality is that it's confusing. Spirituality constantly creates distinctions between good or evil, selfish or selfless, peaceful or agitated, and gets lost in those distinctions. Reality is simple, it's absolutely logical. Simple in the sense that everything is logical structures superimposed on one another, complicated in the sense that those structures are infinitely complex. To open the focus, you have to remove the meaning from everything. Meaning closes down. You get lost in it Great that you resonate with my dissection of reality, I can't help but dissect

Imo it's not false, it's just relative. It's different. stillness, peace are ideas with an opposite. There is a structure of existence that is you, it is closed in on itself due to the structure of reality, to its development. Its tendency is to align and open itself. To open up means to remove barriers and look directly into your infinite nature. Your infinite nature has no opposite, it is not peace, or goodness; all of these are distinctions that closes, completely meaningless from an unlimited perspective, nothing means anything. Meaning means nothing. The changeless contain infinite changes, the change is in its essence the changeless. To deny appearance is a mistake, appearance is an aspect of essence, what else could it be?

Ego is the mental structure focused on survival, right? It's real insofar as it's necessary to survive then more than illusion separation is a temporary reality That implies that the ego is doing a trick to reinforce a belief. Why? The ego knows that it must survive, the other option is death. That's real, death is the dissolution of this concrete form. Maybe you could say that it's irrelevant, but even so, it's death What dream? Who is dreaming? Then if there is not a dream what is? Being awake? Simulate? Why anyone would simulate anything? Why the ego would do that? The structure of the ego is the most efficient possible due a concrete frame of reality, If not if wouldn't exist The infinity is always in a form, form is relation, relation is movement, contrast between opposites. Without movement is not existence, non existence is the absolute stillness, the absolute stillness is a possibility in absence of limitations, the fluctuation is another possibility, the second always prevail because the first is never, is the hidden face of the reality, hidden because it's "never". If fluctuation happens, infinite fluctuations happen, then they organized in logical relations just because incoherent relations are not relations. In short, always are infinite changes of state dancing in an infinite fractal, so why they are not real and its nature is real? Both are real, one is essence, other is manifestation.

Very good approach to the figure of the wealthy, athletic, surfer-like pseudo-hippie who drives an 80k van and treats his life as a perfect showcase. I remember 8 months living in a town with people like that. Everything seemed perfect. Everyone was so cool, so attractive: parties, DJs, wild nature. And in the background, there was a strange, incomprehensible, alien vibe. What was it? If everything is perfect... It was all a hollow facade, the biggest piece of shit ever. A place to go crazy. Narcissism as a commonly accepted religion, toxicity behind every smile and every 5-second hug . all window dressing, a desire to be elite, to hang out with elite people, all to cover up the emptiness inside, their total lack of integrity. What a shit, scape without looking backwards.

How's going life? Enlightenment is the opening of your structure to the unlimited nature of reality. It's something that happens not something that you know. This is what happens when the structure forged in the primordial mud of life that emerges and evolves through the struggle for survival of species and individuals becomes clear and aligns with the flow of reality, leaving behind its animal nature, like someone shedding a skin.

People is so dumb that they can make a city of 20 million run like a Swiss watch. Or write novels, make satellites, create art....

Becoming enlightened. Probably In the future all the human will be. Being enlightened will be something extremely normal and science will decipher all the structure of reality

Never, you could lose everything, including your life. That's a great idea.