Breakingthewall

I prefer not, but as suffering is a possibility it's going to happen eventually

You exist , maybe you are not "you" according your concept of "you", but anyway an experience is happening , a movement, a relationship. You could call it you or not you, but it is, and It has an structure with a lot of nuances, preferences, perceptions, levels of awareness. That's what we call "you", then if suffering happens we could meet say that you are suffering

If suffering happens you are suffering, where is the difference saying that there is not you? Suffering is just like anything else, something that happens. The only problem with suffering is that YOU (and me) don't like

Then getting involved or think is not part of reality?

So you are telling that I'm lying to appear important. It shows your level of perception. I talk about this because I break the mental barrier more or less every day. It's something I've sought out as necessary and something I've learned to do. It's a difficult game; I assure you, there's no possible mistake. Since I can't talk about this with anyone, I'm talking about it here. I can't avoid it. I know how the psyche operates to shut down. I see what the masters say, and I know they're wrong or lying almost always. It's absolutely obvious. I want to articulate the energetic structure that shuts down. I can't stop contemplating how it works, its mechanism. Everything I say here is intended to be totally impersonal, to speak from total clarity. Sometimes emotion escapes, but I try to keep it minimal.

It's not my fault that you can't reach the level to understand what im saying. Maybe if you stop insulting and you try to understand you could move bit forward. I'm talking from direct experience , if something is not clear, can be formulated again, but there is not a single lie or effort to appear more in what I said. It's direct experience without a molecule of doubt. Maybe even you could understand that this topic is not easy to articulate, do it clean is a challenge, and for me is a hobby, maybe a passion

Yes, if you understand what meaning is, you can turn it off at will and place yourself in a broader perspective. If you don't understand it, you will think that you are operating in a let say mystic or infinite perspective when you are still in the meaning, but amplifying it to the "divine" dimension or whatever

I mean that any meaning is ultimately a cause-effect relationship, and a cause-effect relationship is a relationship between two opposites or different "things" os states. Meanings are made up of countless overlapping cause-effect relationships. There is no meaning without relation same that there is no form without relation. It seems that meaning is something subjective that the mind assigns randomly, but it is not at all arbitrary but has a real basis on which the mind builds meaning in order to operate on a broader plane than pure instinct.

Tell me any meaning that cannot be reduced to a cause-effect relationship

No it isn't. When I talk about openness, I mean leaving the time , cause effect perspective. Later you return to the usual linear perspective, and resistance exists, and it exists for a reason. Limited reality is real, and you pursue the good and avoid the bad. That's how it is, and that's it.

It's exhausting to talk to you because you seem to respond reactively without having read what is being said, but I'll repeat it once more. Within an unlimited framework, form is inevitable; form is relative movement. As form, you exist by virtue of infinite cause-and-effect relationships, or relative movements that limit you in all possible dimensions by cause-and-effect relationships that you could follow infinitely. But this entire compendium of infinite relative movements is unlimited. This implies that everything that appears is limited in its form and unlimited in its ultimate nature. What you are is the absence of limits, taking a concrete form that operates through the perception of forms and of itself. Therefore, you can, at a given moment, understand that all the relationships that limit you are simply relative relationships. You can stop focusing on them and see through them to what you are in essence, which is limitlessness. This is not an abstract phrase; it is perceiving your true nature, what you are regardless of the form you take. "limitlessness" is not a concept, it is the absolute potential, the cause of life, the bottomless where absolute power is

If you broaden your perspective to the total, causality or meaning ceases to be a universal structure: not because it doesn't exist, but because it cannot encompass the totality. The cause-effect relationship occurs within reality, but reality does not occur within it because reality is not caused. Causality is a form, a relational expression that unfolds infinitely, but it cannot contain total reality, since it has no form or limit. When you place yourself in the perspective of absolute openness, you step outside of all specific relationships, all cause-effect lines. From there, every relationship is simply a relationship, without origin, without necessity, without direction, just inevitable. And what this view reveals is that its nature is not causality itself, but rather limitlessness: the openness that allows any relationship, without being subject to any other.

Great to see you again. Meaning is objetive. If I pour gasoline on myself and then light a match, it means I'm going to burn. This isn't a subjective meaning; it's an objective reality. The meaning is real. It's the relationship between cause and effect. Existence is composed of infinite cause-effect relationships synchronized in infinite dimensions. An electromagnetic wave is an effect created by a cause that in turn causes another effect. Its cause is the vibration of a field of reality due charged particle whose velocity changes over time. This particle, in turn, is caused, and if you could follow cause-and-effect relationships to the end, you would see that there is no end, no limits. The final cause of existence is the absence of limits, which is not something, but the absence of something. Meaning is infinite. This implies that from a total perspective, there is no meaning, because there is no limit; there cannot be one. But from a local perspective, everything has meaning in all its dimensions.

It would be great to be a migratory bird, a duck or something like that, that travels thousands of kilometers each year flying over wonderful places looking for warm places with rivers where it can fish and find a mate.

The ego is a human energetic structure that makes humans survival machines and masters of reality.

Seems that your goal is to appear smart, and it's ok if it is what you need now, but perhaps some people aim for true openness. So, unlimited perspective is the perception of your unlimited nature from this concrete form. Without form, there is no perception; if there is perception, it's because there is form. Form perceives forms, but it can also perceive itself as its essential nature. This is what mystics talk about, but they usually do so in a confusing way, mixing unlimited perspective with limited perspective. Unlimited perspective is perceiving what you are, and what you are is limitlessness, which is absolute potential. If you locate yourself in the unlimited perspective, you are out of time and form, in part. That's , you are still a form that operates in time, breathing and that, but same time you open your perception to the unlimited, you understand what you are absolutely, despite the form, you totally forget the form for a while, as it doesn't exist, no time, no meaning, just unlimited. Then you recognize yourself as unlimited reality that is absolute potential, that's the step 1 in true spirituality

You don't understand, I never talk about limitation as if we're bad, I'm saying that you can place yourself in an unlimited perspective, and by default you're in a limited perspective. What's confusing is mixing both. Unlimited perspective is not a limit, is precisely absence of limits. You can place yourself in that perspective because ultimately you are that. That doesn't mean that limited perspective is false or illusion, it's absolutely real, as a limited perspective

You can understand that the nature of anything is unlimited potential manifesting, and understand what that potential is and why it manifests. That potential is limitlessness and manifestation happens because it's inevitable. It's a direct, non-conceptual understanding, then you realize that you are that. Conceptually seems nothing, meaningless, but if you see it it's everything

Adaptive mechanisms are constantly evolving, and this evolution is our personal movement multiplied by x. Changes at a global level are gradual and require a framework that allows for them. Mechanisms of emotional castration and submission to hierarchies are still absolutely necessary. Humanity as a whole is a machine of enormous complexity, and to continue functioning with the precision with which it operates, everything must be balanced. If your impulse is to break down barriers, that is humanity's impulse at a local level, the beginning of a movement that, if circumstances are favorable, will take on a general dimension.

He's wrong, the reality is understandable, but since that guy was operating from a position of limitation, he came to the conclusion that it's impossible to understand it because he equates understanding with knowledge. Too basic.

The issue is very simple and same time extremely difficult. Human evolutionary reality creates mechanisms of hierarchy and emotional castration to achieve the most optimal adaptation and evolution as a society. This is genetically encoded, and as soon as a trigger is triggered, you irremediably fall into power dynamics. The price is closure, dissatisfaction as an individual, emotional castration. Getting out of there is quite difficult; it requires deep understanding and direct action. You're not fighting something banal, a mistake made by foolish humans, but rather you're trying to align a biological reality with your inner reality. Shortcuts don't work; it's a real struggle, you have to conquer your freedom without denying the human reality, not an easy balance

It's not like that, If you're in sync with yourself and open to your true reality, you'll discover the people you can connect with deeply. Obviously, it won't be everyone, but they exist. Thinking that everyone you see on the street should be on the same wavelength as you isn't very realistic. Means that you are not one with yourself, then you blame the others. It's a reality that most people acts reactive, if you want to find people who is fluid, true, then first be true and fluid.

You could then say that if you perceive God as everything, that would be an identification of your structure with an emotional reality: life, matter, flux. And that beyond this identification, what exists is infinite emptiness. But this isn't so, since that emptiness, which is infinite potential, contains everything, since potential and reality are the same.

The alternative is to drill reality and open it like someone opening an orange. With determination and violence. Reality accepts being opened, desires to be opened, since it is potentially open. Reality is you, and you can drill yourself.

Understanding is essential because If you don't understand the structure of reality with absolute clarity, you will inevitably fall into the labyrinth that it is. If you want the structure of reality to become transparent, you must understand it. Understanding it is like understanding anything else: something that is above the mental process, but that you see directly. The mental process is a tool for understanding, not understanding itself. Understanding is direct, without process. The right process can allow understanding happens, but the process is not understanding. Do you understand?