Breakingthewall

I haven't argued anything, I've just pointed out a reality. It's surprising that you don't see it. But maybe anyone could understand it.

I really don't understand this obsession with appearing condescending and talking nonsense. I analyzed Adams's text because I wanted to talk about it. Thanks for the advice on meditation. Any advice on diet, sex, or work?

I guess that there are a lot of awakened persons, but Socrates wasn't one.

I'll explain it to you again because it seems your mind is full of contradictory ideas. The thing is very simple: forget about all those concepts of here and now, consciousness, love, God, free will, etc. Look, the essence of reality is limitlessness. You think you know what that is, but you don't. Never, since birth, have you tasted it for a single second, believe me. To taste it, you must be it, but due to the energetic structure of how reality is expressing itself now, that is, your current structure, you can't be that, since there are limits that close you in. You can break them and be your true, total nature. But then those limits, which are solid, will return. Then you will remember all that about infinity, but you won't be able to be it again. But if it happened once, it's because you were weakening those limits. So it could happen again, and again. Each time, it will become more obvious what limits you, and you can refine it, but they are real, genetic barriers, extremely strong. You have to be absolutely honest with yourself and see them, and also be willing to let go of absolutely everything. Being without any foundation, truly being infinite right now.

You can arrive to the definitive answer about what are you, and it's something absolutely clear and real. It's the end of the path to "enlightenment" or as you want to call it. Then there is still a lot of work to do because the door that opened get closed again. You have to understand what closes and polish it. A real change will happen.

I'm telling you that there is an answer. It's not that I'm walking in circles, it's that if you walk straight you will find the answer, but if you get stuck in any trap you will stay there. The answer is out of the mind, you have to break it.

What you say is true because you are consciousness, but that doesn't mean reality is consciousness. You are consciousness as form, since without form there is no consciousness. Consciousness is form, it is movement. In the absence of movement, for example, deep sleep, as you mentioned, there is no consciousness. Consciousness restarts when movement restarts. So, if there is no consciousness without movement, is consciousness reality? We mustn't confuse the absolute with reality. There are many absolute things, because they have no opposite. Consciousness, intelligence, movement, love. They are manifestations of reality, not reality. To remain there is to remain within a limit. We must break it. Reality includes the absence, but it's always nullified by the presence, but this doesn't means that the presence is the reality. This is the last mirage. Reality is nothing and being nothing is everything blah blah as you know. Being stuck in any something is that, being stuck. Something or nothing are irrelevant, what you are is beyond them

There is a question, what I am. There is an answer. You could becoming fully concious of what you are (and this doesn't mean that you are consciousness, but that you are now aware of what you are and weren't before, but you were anyway). What you are is the absence of limits, but you can't become aware of that by knowing it; you have to be it, and to be it, you have to break all limits. The absence of limits is total plenitude, and to open yourself to it, you have to take an action: break all your limits. There is no other possibility.

Because you could become a slave. I'd prefer to avoid that About conciousness. Saying that reality is conciousness is the same that saying that reality is form. Form is that arises due the relative movement, and the relative movement is absolute, because the absolute stillness is not. Then reality is movement or form? No, reality has the potential to movement and form, and as there is the potential, there is form, always. Because no form is never. Same than conciousness. But this doesn't implies that reality is form or conciousness, it's the possibility of form and conciousness. Reality is a step above, it's beyond conciousness and form, even conciousness and form are reality. A manifestation of reality

For me conciousness is a word that means being concious of anything. For example Leo use to say: increase your level of consciousness. This means be more conciouss, for example, you can't be concious about that harming animals is wrong, then in some point you become concious of that. Conciousness is awareness, it's an attribute that you have. Reality could be unconscious of itself, because reality doesn't need to be concious. Conciousness appears in reality, but as it appears it's an absolute, because reality has the potential of consciousness. But reality Is not conciousness, saying that is a lock, a limit.

The reality is absence of limits. You can't name the reality with a positive name as conciousness, it's an hindrance, a barrier. You could say maybe that reality is absolute potential or absolute being, but even that contains a small hindrance. Btw, what means "conciousness" exactly?

It's sad to have to read those shit, sorry to say. Try to be mature and talk without your brilliant ego. Can you? The point is talk about the truth, not a competition

What is conciousness? Reality arises. Nobody is creating it. If you say: you are creating the reality, it's just a false assessment.

Great reading, I enjoyed every word. That's the attitude, sharp as a knife

I've read it a bit in Google, and it sounds good, but there are two things it repeats that are confusion: reality is consciousness, and you created reality. These two statements are a lock. What is consciousness? Is it something? Where does that word point? And you created reality. Who? So, you are not reality; it's a creation of you. Only those 2 statement are a huge hindrance. If you want opening yourself to the real freedom you have to remove all the barriers. Creation and conciousness are mental barriers. The mind has to be absolutely empty. This doesn't mean "silence", as Adams also says. He said many times that what you are is "silence". This is another hindrance. Empty means diaphanous, free of barriers. There can be thought and absolute freedom same time, thought is not so important, what is important are the barriers. The barriers are not created by the thought, is the thought that is created by the barriers. Repress the thoughts is not the point, silence can be full of energetic barriers. Anyway, congrats for your progress, sounds genuine. Just realize the traps, there are many. Conciousness and creation are traps, walls in the mind.

Then, for a moment, what you are manifests totally. It is total plenitude, what you were searching for. You were searching for yourself. You were lost, wandering in a desert. Every second of your existence was incomplete, and that incompleteness vibrated with an anxious vibration. Then, immediately, that opening closes, and you instinctively perceive what it is closing, what your structure is, and how it closes. How much distortion, anxiety, need for acceptance, fear, projection into the future, even the immediate future, is in you. You are very impure (I mean me). impurity closes, and there are tons of impurity. It's possible being pure? Has to be absolute, without stain🥱😭 if not, the self is like an armored door Seeing this allows you to begin to focus and little by little the openess start to be more normal, but still rare, even partial openess is full time if you don't get total openess not far on time things start to get dark. Only openenss is essential, more than anything else . It's a long process that I suppose never ends, although some say it does, that there comes a moment when your openness is total all the time. It seems impossible to me; human nature is very dense. But who knows? Reality is always in motion. If it moves in that direction, its movement is slow but constant, Inevitable.

Btw, If you seek total openness, there's something you'll find sooner, or at least in my experience: total absence, absolute emptiness. It's a very difficult experience that shrinks your soul, squeezes you, and before you can look away, you've seen absolute horror. This, for me, is typical of experiences with 5 meo, but also just meditation. Ultimately, reality is empty, lacking everything, dead, absolute death. This realization occurs because one last movement is missing. there is something in the reality, there is you. What are you then? Who observes the empty reality? Are you alone in cosmic solitude observing the empty reality? Who observes? You are not observing; you are the reality. Then it opens. You are everything; there are no limits. The cup is absolutely full.

So bored talking alone, I couldn't

Yes, it exists, but do you know what is? It's difficult, because you see a hand, not the infinity. The hand is veiling the fact of that right now the infinity is infinite and you are that. You only see a hand, but you see it flat. It's depth is unfathomable, and from the fact that you are unfathomable you are. And "you are" is infinite. It doesn't means that its something that is not going to finish, it means that right now it's infinite. The experience is like a screen that is flat, but it's absolutely alive because it has not bottom. That's the point, that the absolute life of this moment is because it has not bottom. The life springs of the source of having not bottom, the totality of the limitlessness is absolute life, not just a hand, is the absolute infinity alive because it's everything. If you are totally open to it, to what you are, you get it, that's everything, nothing else is missing, nothing else could be.

Their line of thinking implies that the self is a kind of conceptual error and is a real energetic structure. It's as real as something physical, just on another plane of existence. For nondualists, enlightenment is realizing that they are not the self that appears, but the complete experience—"this" as they say. In my opinion, this is confusing and irrelevant. It's the same to think you are the separate self or the complete experience; the important thing is the openness to what you are, what your nature, your substance, is. What they talk about is a change of mental schema, but that's still within the mind. Openness is the actual breaking of boundaries, transcending experience and being the ultimate unlimited nature. It doesn't matter if you are the separate self or everything, or whatever, if you can't break through the barrier of experience. The experience must appear as a transparent hologram, irrelevant, simply an experience. Just behind it, beneath the surface, is the whole. The whole requires total surrender, totally letting go of the mind and totally opening the heart. This means totally eliminating fear for a moment. Surrender to reality, to the total absence of foundation, knowledge, understanding, or grounding. There are energy chains that prevent you from doing this; you must dissolve them. Listening to non-dualists, it becomes clear that they cannot escape their prison because they do not perceive it. They truly think they are free, and are trapped in the experience.

They could be absolutely and genuinely sure of what they say and absolutely wrong.

Newman says this: Within this apparent paradox arises an experience. That experience is, that this appearance is happening to 'me'. That experience is not paradoxical; it feels very real. There's no space, no room, no possibility for the reality, that 'this' isn't happening to ‚me’. That experience of duality is dissatisfying. It's uncomfortable. Out of that experience arises the need to bring about a wholeness, to cover up the feeling that what is, isn't complete, to make the feeling that it's not okay - okay. Out of that arises the need for good and bad and right and wrong. So this appearance then turns into ‚my life‘, and my life is the need to make 'this' better, 'this' good, to find out or to solve the problem of why I don't feel like it's okay, why I feel like something's wrong, why I feel like I need to seek, to find something else. Then, according to him, to cover the sensation of not complete of this experience, arises the need for good and bad. Well, id say that it arises after having the experience of being impaled and your children sold as slaves, eaten millions of times by crocodiles, abused, tortured, extincted, rejected, mutilated, enjailed, submitted. From you were alone in the jungle surrounded by monsters that wanted to kill you and killed you and your entire family billions of times. Then you created an energetic structure that we call fear, and others structures that we call desire, because without them you couldn't exist. And at a certain point, language and the self appeared, drawing on millions of years of war. This self began its own wars, which were far more savage than those of the jungle, millions and millions of times over. War, desire, death, birth. And this is a concept? More solid than the most solid steel box. A riddle within a riddle within a riddle. An extreme labyrinth, the ultimate game, when the rat that emerged from the hole can align its entire energy system, created over the eons, and open itself to its absolute nature.

Leo can be proud of his work. Just be patient and follow your path. This thing requires time. If you accept and advice for this work, be absolutely independent, don't believe anyone except yourself.

There could exist someone whose energetic structure is such that they are completely open to the absolute being, and for them it would be the same to have lung cancer as to be on a paradise beach. Form is just form; essence is everything to him. Pain and pleasure are the same, transparent holograms through which the absolute shines through with total clarity. It is total now, always, beyond time and any human preference. But given the energetic structure that is created by being human, it is extremely difficult to find this, maybe impossible

I just finished reading a little bit of Jim Newman, which I'd never heard of before, and in two minutes, in my very humble opinion, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's lost in the idea of no self and all that. The self is real, it's genetically encoded over millions of years of evolution, it's an energetic structure as solid as a steel box. Can be broken, but more difficult that a steel box. there is a seeker, and there is an end to the search. All that "this is all there is, there is nothing else, and it is complete." It's simply a failure to understand how reality hides itself from itself with the creation of the self. The self is a real process, and repeating that there is no self won't stop it. There is no depth in Newman's message; it's flat, empty, dead.