Breakingthewall

No I'm not mixing , just understanding the basic error of spirituality, which defines consciousness as the basis of reality, or reality itself. Absolute reality is consciousness and unconsciousness, everything and nothing. Nothing is not empty consciousness; it is the absence of relationship. And relationship can happen without conciousness. Yes yes , I know that you and others believe that conciousness=reality=god. God is creating an adventure to know itself. But this is just religion. Spirituality is religion.

It’s often said that “consciousness is the basis of reality” simply because everything we experience seems to occur within consciousness. But this conclusion is based on a confusion: we mistake the framework of our experience for the foundation of existence itself. Just because something is unimaginable without consciousness doesn’t mean consciousness is the ground of being. That’s a projection of our current structure . we are conscious, so we imagine reality must be too. But the absolute, if truly unlimited, cannot be a consciousness ,because consciousness always involves differentiation, relation, and appearance. It’s already a form. Reality doesn’t need to be conscious , only coherent. Consciousness is not the source, it’s a reflection: a localized structure through which reality happens to perceive itself. As it happens we could say that always happens, or that it's infinite, but infinite doesn't mean absolute. The numbers are infinite and relative.

Conciousness without change is unconsciousness. This is what happens when you're injected with propofol. Your field of consciousness ceases to have content, then it disappears. It can last a trillion years, which is less than an instant, nothing. The moment there's a change perceived, consciousness resets.

For change to exist there must be at least two fields interacting. You the solipsistic have decided that it's impossible that the reality can take two perspectives. Why?

You can't dive endlessly, you can be totally open to your absolute nature, then any form is just a form. Thinking that only this form exist is confusing the form with the substance. Who "knows" that only this form exist is the form believing that it's god. Tell to that god to change the form, or levitate or anything, let's see if he can.

The fact of an experience happening implies "other". Without another there is no contrast, and without contrast there is nothing. Experience is always relative to another. Experience is not the reality, it is an expression of reality. Reality includes what's not manifested, the infinite potential. The nothing. Reality is limitless, then it couldn't be limited to one perspective. If it were nothing would arise, but it's impossible, because no limit could be real

Who believe that? If he doesn't exist....

Heraclitus is absolutely right. Everything is in his simplicity. Everything flows. You cannot step into the same river twice. The path up and down is one and the same. What opposes unites; the finest harmony arises from tensions. This cosmos, the same for all, no god nor man made, but it always was, is, and shall be: an ever-living fire, kindling in measure and going out in measure. Although the logos is common, most people live as if they had a private understanding. They do not understand how what is at variance with itself agrees with itself. The waking have one common world; the sleeping turn aside each into a world of their own. Time is a child playing draughts; the kingly power is a child's. War is the father of all and king of all. The bow's name is life, but its work is death. The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Much learning does not teach understanding. The limits of the soul you would not find, even if you traveled every road. Dogs bark at what they do not understand. It is hard to fight with anger, for whatever it wants, it buys at the price of the soul. A hidden connection is stronger than an obvious one. Character is destiny. Cold things warm, warm cools, wet dries, parched is moistened. The sea is the purest and most polluted water: for fish drinkable and life-preserving; for men undrinkable and destructive.

Another important point of limitless is that your true nature fills your heart. It's everything. The persistent sense of lack in the human condition arises from structural limitation . the perception of separation. When those limits dissolve, the structure opens to the whole, and the sense of lack disappears. What is often called “love” in such states is not emotion, but the absence of fragmentation , it is the experience of totality.

And experience is not absolute, it's relative, it's something in relationship with anything else. It's the same if it's and image, it's "anything else". The self that perceive is created by the relationship with something with something else. Without something else it's not experience, it's stillness, and stillness is nothing, it doesn't happen. Then, the others are others. Essentially could be the same, but there is a barrier that creates the self, it's real, like everything else. Real means that it is.

Solipsism is impossible because you are not alone, since the infinity is not you, it's everything. "Alone" is just a relative arising, same than "others", or anything else.

Imo you open the limits, then you are the total, then the limits appears again and you are worried by the usual things, but little by little the real scope of the game that you are playing as this form starts to manifest. From an absolute perspective everything is the same, but from a relative perspective any cause has an infinite butterfly effect, right now you are dancing with the infinity. You are same time the whole and the part, as whole nothing matters, as a part, everything matters. You can open your relative experience to another level, and seems very possible, almost sure that there is continuity after death, you have a movement to do now, an expansion to achieve. Why? Just because this is the flow of reality .the path shows itself every moment, you have to flow with it.

It's easy to explain. The main point is to completely break the limits, with meditation, psychedelics, or whatever. This is something that happens at a given moment. Now your mind is limited, and the next instant it isn't. It's totally real. You perceive yourself as the total reality, without the slightest hindrance, barrier, doubt, or possibility of error. You are outside of the human, outside of time and form. You have to have a certain detachment for this, maybe it has to be partly innate. Then you realize that you are, what is limitless . But this isn't a self, a center, someone; it's infinity. It's strange to the human self. You're not someone, you're let's say something, but you're still you; it's your nature. So, given your absolute nature, you realize several things: there is nothing to achieve from an absolute perspective, no possible intention, no possible limit. There is no possibility of not flowing, and flow is a relationship with yourself, the relative movement of infinity within itself. And this movement is infinite; it is the inevitable expression of the total nature of reality. Anything is the same than anything else from an unlimited perspective, just forms, the essence is the unlimited, the form is just a possibility that happens. It's not that nothing matters, it's that mattering is a relative arising. Unlimited is just unlimited. This has many implications. Ultimately, any intention is impossible; any god is relative. But at the same time, all reality is synchronized because what appears is relative to itself. At the absolute level, change is impossible. Any change is an inevitable play of perspectives, and it must be perfectly synchronized, symmetrical with itself to appear. And at the same time, it is an expression of the total nature of that which has no limits. From this, you can deduce that everything branches out infinitely, that each point of view is composed of infinite points of view. Everything is infinite, like a game of mirrors that never ends.

A small critique of Advaita, both neo- and classical, see Spira, Ralston, and even the sacred Ramana: Many spiritual paths based on Advaita adopt a negative path: "you are not this, you are not that." This denial may partially dissolve identification with form, but if it stops there, it leaves an illusory foundation intact: consciousness as the absolute stage. To say that "everything happens in consciousness" maintains a hidden duality between what appears and the framework in which it appears. The void left after denying form is not reality, but rather another form: the form of absence. Reality is not emptiness, nor silence, nor witness: it is unlimited without a center. It is not what remains when everything is eliminated, but what is when seen without limits. What appears does not need to be denied, but rather understood as a synchronous reflection of the unlimited manifesting itself. Reality is not consciousness, but that of which even consciousness is a structured reflection. The absolute is not achieved by denying form, but by seeing that every coherent form is already an expression of limitless being. Any vision that retains a privileged framework, even if it calls itself pure consciousness, has not reached reality. It has only emptied form without recognizing totality.

I try using spiritual language instead of purely objective language, but objective is much better: without limits, stability is impossible. There can't be "nothing," since nothing means the absence of fluctuation, eternal stability and this implies a limit. At some point, fluctuation occurs, since nothing prevents it, and some point is always, since the absence of fluctuation is the absence of an event, "never". Any fluctuation is a change of state, and a change of state is a change if it is reflected in a different state. If this fluctuation occurs, as it inevitably must, it occurs infinitely, so reality is not expanding; it is always totally expanded. Any expansion is a flow within the absolutely expanded. Everything that appears is a synchronized reflection of the unlimited upon itself, because the absence of synchronicity implies no reflection, which is the same as nonexistence. Reality and existence are different aspects: reality is substance, existence is manifestation. Reality includes that which does not exist, the unmanifested, the unconscious. Existence is manifestation, symmetry, synchronicity, what appears. What they call enlightenment is the opening to reality, to the total, unnameable essence. A center of consciousness is a relational node composed of infinite relationships, infinite reflections of reality within itself and there are infinite nodes. Everything that exists tends toward expansion, sending potential in infinite directions, but is limited by what reflects back to it in infinite directions. Every movement is a relationship that finds its place of engagement: thrust, expansion, and contraction. The change of state of a subatomic particle requires the manifested infinite to allow that movement, to find the synchronicity for it to occur. Nothing is by chance; everything is pieces of a perfect and inevitable puzzle that flows upon itself.

@en-el hak Agreed, at some point you realize that almost everything human is about survival. But then you realize there are values above survival, values for which you would give your life. The promise to a son, or to a true friend, reverberates into eternity. It's better to die than to break them; this life is short compared to eternity. It's beautiful to go beyond survival.

If absolute truth is absolute, as its name suggests, everything is absolute truth. Then "absolute truth" makes no sense. A lie would be within that absolute truth. But well, absolute truth could be formulated like this: there are no limits, and since there are no limits, I am.

Really? It's totally obvious. Maybe this video could be interesting, Books I don't know, all of them are wrong I'd say 😅. I didn't read any but I ask to chat gpt about all the spiritual teachers and it's principles, and absolutely all of them have mistakes in their basis. It's not ego, it's obvious, you could check any and let's analize it.

Very possible Sure, any evolution has already occurred up to its upper limit and has been diluted with reality countless times. Manifest reality is living intelligence, and it's quite logical to assume that the ramifications of each specific expression are infinite Just the unlimited, the nature of everything. You didn't fall in love with the obsessive Chinese behavior 😂

Is something such a soul possible? What could be? If the form is an expression of the absolute, everything is the same soul, o there is something else, a line of existence that has continuity? Is possible to know that? How was china btw

Seems that he broke the barrier

Beautiful religion. I will name it psychosis.

You are not a drop in the ocean, you are the ocean in a drop. Rumi This is a perfect resume of what I said above. If you want to understand it, you have to open yourself to the ocean and be the ocean. The ocean is total, you can't understand it before of being open to it.

For example, For Ramana Maharsi, reality is consciousness. The self doesn't exist; it's just a thought. And what appears is projected as consciousness, just like in a dream. He's absolutely confused; it's incredible. Reality isn't consciousness; consciousness is an appearance that arises in reality. It couldn't be more obvious. You're not projecting reality like in a dream, because a dream isn't a dream; it's reality. He's lost in a sea of dualities. Incredible 😅 The only spirituality that's limitless is the tao te king and the sufis in some ways, and there is a reading in Christianity that can leads you to the openess in certain way . All the others are closed, over all the Buddhist

There is something essential that if you would see it, you would understand: you are because you are limitless. The source of being is the absence of limits, the fact of that there is not bottom. Seems a logical construction but it's something that you have to experience. The reality is not conciousness, or love, or anything else, is absence of limits. It's absolutely, totally, 100% obvious. Right now you are expanded to infinity. It's a fact, it's the source of you, the atomic reactor that fuels your experience, the unfathomable energy that you are, that anything is. It's not easy to see, if you read adyashanty, even Ramana maharsi, Eckhart Tolle, Ralston, spiral, kastrup, all of them are limited. No one of them have really totally, absolutely, broken the limits. It's crazy, but it's real.