Breakingthewall

Yes sure, but I guess that you understand that who has that feeling is the human structure. I had a lot of horrible feelings about openenss, 5 meo was a mental torture of a level that only because I have a big masochist component i felt more and more attracted until it was an obsession. Then I started to be in another frequency, not with 5 meo, all time, little by little, until you start purifying yourself about those attachments and you can reach a clean openess at least during some moments almost every day. This is a work that doesn't stop, every second more cleaning, more aligning

There is not understanding in the totality, except that its total. In that everything is included. Any understanding like what physicality is happens in this form. "You are god dreaming" is an understanding that happens in this form and has a relative meaning.

That's also energy, but what a hell, it's essential to avoid it if you are seriously interested in developing yourself but it's not an easy task

Of course but it's a different plane. Enlightenment is openness. Then there can be clarity that makes you understand how reality operates, see its dynamics, its rhythm and harmony, its flow. All of that is human potential, but you have to differentiate one from the other.

I don't know, why the things that appears are not real? I'd say they are, everything is real, because the reality is real 😅. Enlightenment is be open to what reality is , not to how reality is. "How" is that about God, physicality, dream, etc. You could deduct it but enlightenment is the direct and absolute openenss to the totality, without content. Implies all content, but it's nothing that can be defined, definitions happen in it.

@Ishanga I thought you were at the Isha Foundation under that giant statue in a 3-week meditative trance 😅. Nice to see you again

What is where? Just an idea. The totality is total, you can be open to it or not. What I said is that for being open you have to equalize your energetic sistem in many levels, and that about thinking is not important I'm not sure if you are talking seriously of just trying to appear interesting

You can't see that "physical" is a categorization that is happening in your current angle of existing. If you were a squid you wouldn't know that. There are infinite possibles dimension of being. "Physical" makes sense in this dimension, not in others. The absolute is not "physical" or "mental", it's where those distinctions happen. Enlightenment needs some subtle understanding to dont being trapped.

It's not about that, it's about to equalize yourself, remove your energetic barriers. Why you refuse understanding? Sorry for repeating, but you are in a mistake

No, enlightenment is be open to the totality, it has no content. Zero content, absolutely no thing. It's be open to the totality. Period. You don't understand it? Obviously, if you would, it would mean that you are enlightened

Man, if you are a methamphetamine addict obsessed about fucking his daughter, you are closed to the source, maybe you still are, obviously, but you are closed. Why you don't try to understand?

How I see it is isn't your conciousness and there is not a process from an absolute perspective. It's totally expanded, for the reality everything is total, it's absolute joy because what we call "joy", this, let's say, feeling, sensation, perception, really means : unlimited. Every real joy is the intuition of limitlessness, it's not the same than being happy for something, joy is different, it's synonymous of limitlessness . The form is happening because it's inevitable, but the absolute is not someone or something that have feelings about it, it's only total. It's very difficult reach it, because it's not anything, is totality. Then it's everything, the glass will get absolutely full, any shadow of dissatisfaction will absolutely dissapear. It's an impossibility, the totality is total. Period. Nothing else. Everything, more than everything: total.

Btw, with energetic state is mean the degree of structural openness, degree of resonance with the source, deep alignment between form and formlessness. You can be silent in a state of vigilance, denial of thought. this has no relation to enlightenment. When the beauty and brilliance of reality manifest, they do so in everything. There is no maya or dream, there is openness. When there is openness, thought slows down. Not the other way around. Stopping thought does not bring about openness.

You could be in absolute silence all time and be closed to the source, and you can be thinking about someone who owes you money or whatever, and being open to the source and perceiving with absolute clarity that those thoughts are an emanation of the Source, aka the whole. It depends more on your energetic state than on thinking or not thinking. Believing that not thinking is superior to thinking establishes a totally separate duality; it's mental castration. In some traditions, it's been established that silence and inaction are synonymous with enlightenment, but that doesn't mean it's true. You have to view everything with great skepticism, otherwise you become religious, and it's sad to see people interested in spirituality become religious, as we can see here

You say that because you can't escape the human temporal perspective of what's happening. The idea of God dreaming is a projection from that perspective. Reality outside of the happening isn't trapped in anything; it's the human who is trapped, and it's circumstantial. It's a perspective that happens and disappears; it doesn't imply that another one will happen later. "Later" only makes sense in the temporal dimension in which you operate now. Enlightened is not realizing that you are God dreaming, this is just a history, it's be open to the nature of the reality. From this openenss you realize that any form is the same than another form, it's a form, period. What you are is the substance of the form . The substance is not god, god is made of the substance. This not implies that the form is meaningless. It's meaningful from the perspective of the form. Meaningless from the perspective of the substance. From an unlimited perspective, anything is the same, but you are also a form. That spiritual ideas about silence and detachment could be useful to open yourself to the total, but just for that, the form is the form and you can't scape from if because you are the form. The totality is the substance of the you, the material, the you is structure, but even that it is. Without structure there is no god, not you, just totality. Totality is not trapped, it's total, period.

Sounds good. You should try living homeless for a couple of years without anyone talking to you, sleeping on cardboard in the street like millions do. Maybe it's great.

It's like a hobby, or maybe a compulsion. See through the walls. I'm not judging, I'm pointing the obvious, who's not blind will see, and they could learn a lot about human personality, it's very useful, necessary knowledge to walk in life

Reality can't be a mind that imagines because that mind would be limited. Reality is absence of limitations and it's your ultimate nature, and given the absence of limitations the relationship happen, and what you call "mind" are that relationship flowing in itself without center and without end

And now you are in a mental an emotional mess quite serious. You are a narcissist who needs to defend an image. I'm not telling this to attack you, just to make you see it. You are serious in spirituality right? Be humble and destroy that shit, vaporize it. Death is coming, you don't want to arrive with that baggage. Drop it as the shit that it is, it's absolutely useless, just weight. I know it's very difficult, if not you already would have done it, but it's not impossible if you really see it.

A fragment of the infinity is the infinity itself. In infinity there are infinite centers, infinite perspectives. Materialism or idealism means nothing, they are just local distinctions. Make sense in this concrete paradigm

You should admit that if you say that you achieved the ultimate realization without explaining people could be skeptical

So do you really think that I don't exist? Then why are you talking with the people? I'd say that you think they are real

I perceive myself in essence as what it is, without definition. Then I see that everything that is is in a form in relation with anything else, then I think that inevitably I am in relation with anything else, and as anything else is also in relation with anything else, I'm in relation with everything, like everything else. Something quite obvious

Oh, i have to admit that this argument is irrefutable. Of course, after doing retreats in the Himalayas, you have an advantage.

Your god is a closed system, it's impossible