Breakingthewall

How are you so sure that I'm lying or I'm wrong or stuck? Btw point something that I said that's wrong, maybe it could help me to see more clear

Then according to you I should lie ? Why?

Seems that you don't understand what I say. I can open myself to the absolute, what I'm doing is finding perspectives that open, to do it more easy and help others to do the same. I can open myself to the absolute total unlimited not totally easy, but quite. Without big psychedelic or anything. I'd say that it's quite obvious what I'm pointing, sorry that you don't see

Exactly, that's the point. If you say god, I agree, I call it totality. But conciousness.....it's like the noise of scratching a blackboard with your nails. Like a door in front of my face that prevents me to realize the absolute, or god. Just my perspective, I understand that about God very good, I am god, god is total, it's everything, and here and now I am that. But that realization is closed by the fact of being human. It's quite simple but very difficult to understand how to dissolve the door

Could be but maybe if you read what I say you could agree, maybe not: Imo the thing is not knowing that reality is conciousness but be one with the absolute. It's the same if you call it conciousness, ok, I can accept that term if I interpret it as reality , but knowing that I am reality, or conciousness, is not important, the point is being it absolutely here and now without any separation, be the totality without hindrance. I think you can't say that what I said is a deep mistake or a trap, maybe it's a different interpretation, but I'm not excluding anything or being close minded. Im not denying the mind, the ideas, the conciousness, god or anything, I just say that what you are is what you are, and to realize it you have to trascend all the barriers and open your being absolutely. Then at least for me, it's not like: I'm conciousness. Because that would be a closure. It's just total, absolute. But of course you can say that this is conciousness of being absolute, but I perceive something let's say distorted in the very moment that I try to define. Then when people say: I'm conciousness taking forms, I immediately perceive a mistake that closes their mind an prevent them to see. But as I said I'm not going to point it again and again or arguing with james or water river and others about this, thats pointless, drain of energy. Anyone can see the thing as then can, that needing I have of correcting anyone is let's say, not necessary anymore.

you could say that it's the same experience from different perspectives. obviously there are other possible perspectives, but you don't need to say that they are "outside", they are inside, interconnected, but separated because the fact of an existing experience means separation, without separation there is no borders, no edges, nothing definite, then no change, no experience. you could say that change is apparent, but anyway it is, then there is separation (apparent if you want) then many possible perspectives. not outside, they are here and now but unfolding infinitely, then the "you" is defined being a perspective. all the perspectives have the same essence/ reality/ substance, so the point is having the ability to put the perspective in background and the substance in the surface, and be one with it. That's what al Hallaj point with all that thing about you and you

I can't avoid 😅😅 how not conciousness is conciousness? Maybe when you say the word conciousness you mean the absolute. If you say that includes not conciousness, it's because that. The problem is semantics, "conciousness" is a word with a concrete meaning , if you use it with another meaning, it's misleading, make people confusing. Maybe I'm not concious about what the world conciousness means for you. I really think that it's a mistake using this word because people always will think that conciousness means perception. Perception means relationship between subject and object. The problem is the word not the idea.

For me the term conciousness is misleading, but as I said I don't want to argue about it and if you don't like I spread a different perspective I respect it. If fact it's better stopping those arguments that are a waste of energy, seems that I can't avoid for some reason but Im done with ontology discussion exactly after this moment .

Depending. If you realize the scope of cause-and-effect relationships, your ethics become absolutely solid, since you're aware that, given the structure of reality, any unaligned action is stupid. It's like shooting yourself in the foot. It's selfish from some perspective, but selfless in the sense that this concrete self is not the center, this is a limited perspective, not wrong, just limited. Almost everyone operates from this limited perspective, they they act accordingly it. It's not that they are "bad", it's that they act accordingly their perspective, like anyone

It's a perspective, if it's wrong you can explain me why, but anyway, ok, sorry , I will stop blasphemy. It's your place, your rules. It's nonsense arguing about this, and waste of energy, so I'm done. I'm going to talk only about the absolute and psychology. Ontology I'm done, doesn't leads anywhere

Obvious, no human brain no human structure. But that's not "materialistic paradigm", the brain is an energetic construction that arises in the reality, it's not "material", that is meaningless, it exist, it's an structure, same that anything else that exists. It's the result of the structure of life that's the result of the structure of universe that's the result of the structure of the existence itself that's a manifestation of the absolute limitless. It's quite simple imo

You are defining it calling it conciousness. Conciousness is something definite: perception. The fact of being aware. Saying that reality is conciousness is a mistake but anyway, I don't want to start those discussions again and again

conciousness is the fact of perceiving, it's relative to anything else. Without difference and change there is no conciousness. Imagine no change and no difference, can you? No, because it's impossible. Then conciousness is something that arises due the movement, then not fundamental.

You as a human structure are a product of your brain that is product of the reality. You as an structure can be open to your real nature, that is the nature of everything. With that structure reality perceives itself. It can do in infinite perspectives, all are the same reality. That about where are you is meaningless, I'm in the subway now, and? What is the point is being open to the absolute.

Then why you always say that reality is before your birth? Yes anything is happening now, but happened yesterday, and will happen tomorrow. It's a thought, but a thought that describe a reality

Why god is conciousness? It makes no sense. Conciousness is just a circumstance, the fact of reality perceiving itself like a reflection. If reality is conciousness, why there are forms? Because conciousness is creating them? Then conciousness is something with creative power? Then it's not "pure conciousness" would be "pure conciousness that creates things like elephants " but how conciousness could create anything if it's conciousness, that's , the fact of perceiving? Where is the logic of this?

Why? If you hit your head now and your memory is erased, does that mean you didn't exist yesterday?

That's an interesting question: Can anyone be a mystic? Is it an innate disposition toward openness, or an attitude toward life that arises due to circumstances? Probably both. But I believe that if spirituality were explained clearly and simply, many more people would be open to this possibility. Incredibly, after thousands of generations, civilization, and science, spirituality is 99% completely fake. It's truly shocking, difficult to understand. It's not that almost no one is enlightened, it's that almost no one understands what spirituality is.

Yes, like the structure that perceive the absolute is just an structure, the absolute lives, the structure is a corpse, is just an structure. The substance is the real thing. You are the substance, the structure becomes transparent, irrelevant, burned.

You are almost hitting the nail on the head. The spiritual path is the only option that doesn't lead directly to disaster. And disaster is not unlike hell. If you're clever, as it seems, you'll see this with absolute clarity. There's no escape; you're alive, you exist. The only way out is inward, through yourself. Anyone who doesn't realize this lacks real vision; they're blinded by mirages. It's not that you choose the spiritual path because it's better, it's because it's the only one. The other paths lead to ruin, they're utter madness, but no one notices. It's incredible.

There is a mystic very interesting, Al Hallaj, The guy started preaching in the squares and gathering crowds in Iran in the 9th century. He said things that were radically direct to the absolute, much better than Jesus. It was inevitable that they would kill him. They imprisoned him for 9 years, then gave him 100 lashes, cut off his hands and feet, and then crucified him. Supposedly he was singing in the torture, maybe it's just a history but he has a lot of great quotes. The most famous is ana al-haqq, I'm the truth ("the truth" is one of the names of god in Quran). In other quotes when he say "you" he means the absolute, then what he is, but speaking from the human structure is "you" . I think he's the best mystic that is known. He said for example "Between You and me, there is only me. Remove me from myself so that only You remain." "Your spirit mingled with mine like wine with water. If something touches me, it touches You." "I saw You with the eye of the heart. I asked: Who are You? You answered: You." "The soul is His veil. Remove the soul, and you will find the Beloved." "You do not see me, but I see You. And in seeing You, I forget myself." "The truth of love is the annihilation of the self." "Between God and me there is only me. If I were to remove myself, only He would remain." "The fire of Your love consumed me. My soul turned to ash, and only You remained" "What appears as 'I' is only a veil; behind it, there is nothing but Him Maybe it's a bit weird that he's saying "you", "god", "beloved", like to someone, but I'd say it means that me, from the structure, or I as a structure, open up and see something, the reality, I perceive it and say: you are the absolute. And at a given moment, I am that, there is no structure, it is transparent, it disappears, there is only that and that is me. It's not "you", it's the reality, the totality. Seems "another" from the structure, when the structure dissapear it's what you are.

That's a step. Your story shows that you're a serious guy, that you're on a serious path. Little by little, your reality and the reality around you become equalized and cleansed. It's a rapid process once it begins. Things become more fluid. Then you begin to perceive the real openness, the energy of reality, its vitality. It's no longer an effort to be here and now, but an impulse to blend, to be one with reality, to dissolve. Open your heart and your mind and merge with reality without reservation. Then you see that reality is you. A shift has occurred. You're no longer looking at reality; you are it. And you have no limits. Then you can open yourself more and more to yourself , until in some moments you are totally open and then you are the totality that lives.

Seems that they are a group of people with very low level of maturity, with a lot of trauma, who are looking identity in spirituality. Then, if you are in that game, well, it's because you are in that wave (a quite anxious vawe), and if you aren't, you abandon as you did. Take it as an experience to mature yourself, to understand that spirituality is personal, absolute inner freedom, and that any imposition is precisely the opposite of what spirituality is. An organized group of spiritual people is the exact opposite of spirituality. Spirituality is about leaving the herd, not changing herds.

When anything ,an atom, and energetic quantum moves, that movement is not confined to its local surroundings: it generates a disturbance in the fields it inhabits (gravitational, electromagnetic, quantum...), and that disturbance propagates indefinitely. Physically, the intensity of the wave decreases with distance, but it never reaches zero. Even quantum probability, however small, always extends beyond. From an ontological point of view, this is inevitable: if reality is a totality without limits, then any change in one part affects the whole. There are no cuts. No edges. No outside. Every form is a relational expression of the whole, and every event reorganizes the totality to some degree, even if we cannot perceive it. Since everything moves and everything vibrates, all infinite movements affect each other, generating an interconnected reality. This web of vibrations, all related without exception, is in constant self-organization. And this self-organization of relational totality is what we, from within, perceive as intelligence. It is not that there is an intelligence somewhere that orders things, but rather that the totality itself, unfolding without limits and constantly reconfiguring in perfect synchronicity, is intelligence in action. That is why each local vibration is a reconfiguration of the whole. Each movement resonates infinitely. Nothing is isolated. Every action reverberates. Reality is not a machine ,it is a centerless organism: a living intelligence in perpetual motion

Bit nuanced. When we say "being," it's usually Eckhart Tolle's idea: being here and now without mind, undefined, flowing, pure becoming. Openness is something else; it is what gives rise to being because nothing limits it. The dissolution of the limitation of being in the here and now, in which even in total silence there is separation between perceiver and perception. It would be the essence of reality, the openness to ultimate nature, which could be defined negatively as the absence of limits and which is perceived as totality, unlimited and diaphanous, which implies everything, the total absence of lack, absolute plenitude because there are no limits, absolute depth; it is everything, and you are that. The word would be total. If you are in a meditative state, without mind, everything is silent and calm but it's still closed . Openness means unfathomable depth, the openenss to the totality, to its vitality that arises due the limitlessness, and then it's obvious that you are that, there is no difference between you and the total, it's one. You can't be like that all time at work or meeting your friends,.it's something that happens in some moments