Breakingthewall

Your message illustrates very clearly a typical psychological mechanism: a set of dogmatic affirmations combined with passive resistance to questioning, functioning as a defense of a belief structure perceived as essential for emotional stability. It's a common pattern where conceptual certainty, framed as openness, serves to maintain a sense of control. If you're interested, I’d be glad to analyze it paragraph by paragraph, purely structurally, to help clarify these dynamics

Yes I know that argument: conciousness can't be explained, you should be awake to it. I am, and you? Maybe you are..... asleep? Then you can't see. Nah, this is the cause that spirituality is just religion. It must change.

I think you don't understand me. Consciousness is an arising that occurs in reality. Reality is not consciousness, reality is reality. Let me explain: reality is limitlessness. Existence is the manifestation of the limitless, that is, the relational contrast. What you call consciousness is the appearance of a substance in which your subjective reality occurs. This is a limited vision. Your subjective reality is a perspective of infinity in its infinite relation. There are infinite possible dimensions and infinite possible states, infinite consciousness and infinite unconsciousness. You could perhaps say that existence is infinite being, but what exactly is being? You can go much deeper. You are operating on the surface, on the ice crust. If that thin layer breaks, the depth manifests. Believe me, don't speak so angry and try to understand

@Leo Gura btw If I recall correctly, you asked him an interesting question about Mashamadi and 5meo on his blog, and he responded with superiority, condescension, denial of the legitimacy of your experience, a certain passive-aggressiveness, an implication that you're not "there," and a puritanical condemnation of psychedelics. For me, that's very revealing. But that is not needed, just listening him 5 minutes is enough

Words are a pointer that opens or closes. If someone's words close, it's because they operate from a closed position. So it's legitimate to point out that you should be careful with that discourse; it has a limited basis and will be an obstacle if you internalize it. For me it's obvious that it's the Ralston's case

Deep argument, I have to admit . Subtle and direct to the root. I know what you would say:; there is not subject and object, just conciousness. But then, why there are forms? Because are imaginary. This is not sustainable because its basis is the category of "imaginary", that means nothing. There are forms, where those forms come from? From my imagination? That's not enough, that means nothing. Then the answer is that I'm god imagining. This is not conciousness, it's something else, but still it's limited. It's very obvious... Anyway Ralston would tell me that's conceptualizing, that only direct experience counts, and that's consciousness. That's a gross simplification that sells because it's seductive and easy, but it completely shuts you down. If you buy it, it's your decission

Imagine that someone asks this to Ralston: Saying that reality is consciousness inevitably leads to a contradiction if analyzed rigorously: consciousness, by its very definition, only exists in relation to an object , that is, to something perceived or appearing. There is no consciousness without something to be conscious of. If one claims that reality is consciousness, they are saying that reality, in its entirety, is a relationship between perceiver and object. But then the inevitable question arises: why is there movement, form, relationship, difference? If everything is consciousness, where does what is perceived come from? Is consciousness “imagining” forms, movement, difference? But in that case, consciousness is not a passive or absolute background, but an entity with the capacity to imagine, that is, to generate internal distinction. But what, then, is imagining? Imagining implies distinction, the emergence of forms within a framework, which means that consciousness already contains relationship, structure, and potential movement within itself. But if this is true, one cannot say that reality is consciousness; rather, consciousness is already a differentiated form within a greater reality, where relationship and movement exist as a prior condition. Ultimately, claiming that all is consciousness creates a closed conceptual loop that attempts to explain appearance from appearance itself, without seeing that the very possibility for something to appear , whether as perception or imagination, requires a prior background, an openness that is neither perception nor imagination, but that which allows relationship to arise. Reality is not consciousness; consciousness is merely an inevitable effect of unlimited openness when it organizes itself into a relational form capable of perceiving. Then he would laugh and answer: ah my Padawan, a lot of mental noise in you, hahahaha, just let it go , and.....tadah! And the student would think: ohh yes, of course, he's enlightened.

So, as you don't like what I said you point that I ve a lot of anger but you don't go into any specific point of what I have said. Just your feelings. Why he's yoda? Because your feelings? Be careful with the deception, this is not a work when you can follow you feeling, because there are a lot of profesional scammers lurking for the tender lambs.

I criticize him because he's limited and absolutely certain he's "enlightened." He drags many people into his closed ontology, which leads to flat EEG, anesthesia, and lobotomy. In my opinion, he's a particularly foolish guy with a gigantic self-concept, a typical spiritual narcissist who, because he's very superficial, believes that by simplifying everything and subtly ridiculing the deepest perceptions, he's on top. First, his idea that reality is consciousness. So, what is consciousness? Consciousness! Tadah!!! Ah, consciousness of something? No! "Something" is a dream of consciousness!! Tadah!!! But then, is consciousness an entity that dreams things? Friend, those questions come from the conditioned mind. Let them fall and you're already enlightened. Tadah. All of this is totally false, totally limited, and has an enormously low level of understanding.is just be lobotomized to avoid the complexity or reality and can handle it from a limited state and then believing that you are on top, "enlightened"

Objetive reality and subjective reality are the same; reality. For what you call subjective reality to exist, trillions of neuronal interconnections must occur, with a huge number of chemical exchanges and perfectly coordinated athomic and quantum movements. The entire reality is vibrating so that this finger has the meaning of aggression. There is no difference between that and the collision of two galaxies. It is reality in motion in its total expression. There is no longer a difference between you and reality. You are reality, which operates on different levels, all of them real. The meaning of that sign has the same level of reality than the entire universe, it's just the reality

That movement is not breaking a loop, requires real openess, if not it never works, there is no possible deception here, if you are suffering, it isn't , if there is lack, same. Most of us have an structure of suffering, dissolve it is the real game . Very clear and without doubt

For me it's simple, my family was a hell of premium level destructive addicted, my mental structure was basically rage, shame and hate, obviously trying to get out of there but it was impossible, there was always a background of that absolutely all the time, then you see there are two possibilities, commit suicide or get out of there. Self-help tricks don't work, since obviously I've tried them, I'm not a lazy person, I've tried all kinds of things, because I was afraid of people I've boxed with guys from Eastern Europe who work in clubs and want to kill you hundreds of times, because I needed control I crossed the Atlantic in a sailboat that looked like destroyed sailing alone, through the north with lightning and 10m waves, twice, once I was in mental loop and I bought a 2k motorcycle without experience in traveling by moto and I went alone from Madrid to Senegal and back without sleeping in a hotel, on the ground and without knowing anything about the place, just to see if I could get out of the loop, and I couldn't. many more things, all kinds of rather extreme things, nothing works, your structure of hate is still there, inevitable, solid, that's who you are, you can't escape. So all that's left is to turn inward and go through it, you can't fool yourself because hate will whisper in your ear all the time. You can only break your structure until nothing remains and open yourself to the total substance of what you are, there is no deception possible. Then, as I did and I do now quite easy and I ve zero contraction, anxiety, disfuncional behavior, lack, mental mess, just openess, clean experience all time, I think I understood quite good how this game works and maybe I could explain not bad how it is without get trapped in the usual spiritual traps

You are at the same time effect and cause, inside and outside, limited and unlimited, free and slave

It's not about mental concept or feeling, it's what you are. Let's see, imagine you take something like 300 mcg of LSD. Then, instead of trying to understand what reality is like, what the deep cause-effect relationships are, why you feel that way, you instead try to position yourself in a perspective where everything is the same in form, one thing being the same as another. Then the infinity of relationships flattens out, and only the substance that creates those relationships remains. Nothing means anything (from that perspective). It doesn't matter if you've taken 1,000 ug of LSD. You don't interpret anything. There is no future or past, only the substance of reality. Then you see it with absolute clarity. Reality is no longer perceived longitudinally, as a process, and is seen as unfathomable depth. You are the unfathomable depth; you are total reality, the reality is limitlessness and limitlessness is everything. You don't wonder or cry or anything like that, because if you did, it means you were operating at the comparative level. You are the total abyss of existence, and the total abyss neither cries nor wonders; it is total. You are total; you have no limit; it is always this; you are absolutely free, and freedom is felt as total ecstasy, like a physical liberation ,because the chains have been broken. All contraction disappears; all interpretation is seen as something that happens; it means nothing; nothing means anything, because there is no limit; you are, period. Then you are back in the cause effect relationship and you are trapped again in it, but if you really want you can go again and again in that perspective until you can do it at will, any moment without drugs . Then you can understand from the relational perspective how everything works much more clear because you can detach yourself from that sistem

It's quite simple because at a certain point there's no other option: you have to break down the barriers within you, until none remain, and then feel the connection with the flow of reality, be the flow. You already are, but the barriers that inevitably form in the psyche split you and place you in a default state of lack that must be filled, which is impossible. Humanity is not something flawed or incomplete that must reach a point of completeness; it is the living flow of reality expanding into infinite synchronous relationships. What we are is that open flow, and beyond the flow, what we are is the total, unlimited openness that inevitably manifests as any possibility. If you want to escape Sisyphus's wheel, you must see with absolute clarity that existence is movement itself, open and inevitable, the manifestation of the reality. Then things remain the same, but from a broader perspective.

From an absolute perspective, one thing is the same as another; from a relative perspective, you're alive and must either advance or sink. What you shouldn't do is use the absolute perspective to escape the relative perspective because it doesn't work

@Someone here There's an undeniable reality of life: you either move forward or you sink. It doesn't matter if it's the mind, God, materialism, or baby Jesus in the manger. You either give it your all or you rot in hell. That's how reality works, so the smartest thing to do is to follow the flow with the utmost seriousness and fight as hard as you can, as any other living being

If people were honest with themselves, they would see that almost everything they do is a defense mechanism driven by fear, that the fact that they were born is due to the fear of their parents, the social pact to survive, and that underneath that is a strange, empty nihilism that they cannot understand, and that they are acting like automatons driven by genetic impulses that have the function of perpetuating the species for no reason beyond that. At a given moment, they would see themselves floating in the absolute emptiness, without any meaning, distinction, or destiny. So instead, they grab onto handholds that the mind creates to keep moving forward. If you want to get deep in mysticism, aka reality, you should go through that nihilism. It's not something that anyone would do without a real reason When you're a child, your genetic programming makes you perceive rejection as death. You must fit into the social machine. You must be loved by your parents. Your parents have usually created avoidance structures so they don't collapse and can move forward. A child unconsciously perceives these and, in turn, creates structures that fit with their parents' to maintain functionality. Collapse is the last thing that can happen, and facing rejection directly is extremely hard, harder than being in Gaza during a bombing raid with people dying around you. Everyone creates closing structures inherited from generations. The human matrix functions adaptively, finding the most efficient way to develop its potential, like any other living organism.

A gesture means something as soon as it is given meaning. As humans, we are genetically coded to give meaning to signs, which can be sounds, letters, symbols, or whatever. The moment that meaning is given, it is fixed in the psyche, and at that moment it becomes a real, solid and permanent energetic structure Yes in Chinese they have different words also , but the meaning is the same. The word itself means nothing until it's given meaning, but once it's given meaning, it means something real. To say that's imaginary is to misunderstand reality. Giving meaning to something is a movement of reality, something that happens. It's as real as the atomic fusion that occurs in a star. Humans are real, so the things we do, like giving meaning to a word, are real too. Everything is energy in different states; the energy of meaning is as real as the force of gravity. A curiosity: Zipf's law is a pattern discovered by someone called Zipf that establishes that in all human languages the first word is repeated twice as often as the second, and this twice as often as the third and so on.

That's obvious imo, why the unlimited would be limited to one dreamer? Anyway any human is unlimited, it's same time part and whole.

Thanks for your appreciation. About meditation the problem use to be the search for the positive: for universal love, God, peace, ego dissolution, kindness, and so on. But real meditation is the opening to what is. It is not about the absence of thought or mental noise, but about a true opening to your fear, your need for control , assuming these exist, as they usually do. By seeing them clearly and facing them, you prevent them from closing your perception, from making it bounce off those inner walls. Only then can the unlimited nature of reality manifest, along with its vital relational movement , its inevitable unfolding toward greater connection, complexity, and expansion, the flow that's happening always .

Then god is an entity who does things according a plan for some reasons and it's doing it now and forgetting it at real time? How did you arrive to that conclusion?

Meaning is the cause effect relationship. Any meaning is built by a set of cause-and-effect relationships that your mind automatically constructs. The basic structure of the psyche avoids death and desires life. From there, it begins to build cause-and-effect relationships upon cause-and-effect relationships. For example, the meaning of that photo is aggression and rejection. When you see it, you automatically create the representation of anger and hatred. These mental representations are automatically learned by associating symbols with energetic manifestations. They are internalized and become part of your psychological structure, since it is programmed to create those patterns. This other simbol represents victory, Neither of them means anything intrinsically, but they mean something because they are repeatedly associated with an energetic reality. This association is what creates language, and it is real, not illusory. The moment the association occurs, it is a reality, just as the moment two atoms join together they create a molecule.

The problem is that guys like Maharsi don't have an experience that can be extrapolated to normal people today. That neti neti thing isn't going to work for anyone except him, and current teachers like Ralston simply deny reality to place themselves in a forced flat experience that they call enlightenment. People believe them because they're suffering, and having a flat experience is seen as liberation. Another example is Tolle, who claims that one day he woke up and his mind was free of egoic projection. It's hard to believe because egoic projection is a real structure, which is why it's so solid. It's not a mistake that it will disappear one day, since it would reappear very soon. Tolle's message leads you to deny your reality, and that will never work, otherwise traps you in a state where you are trying to deni a reality affirming that it isn't real

Well, you're right, it's a projection based on what I read about him. I've been reading about people who've been in absolute solitude for years, and it seems that Maharshi really was someone with a truly spontaneous openness. Others don't, for example. Tenzin palmo was 12 years in a cave and if you read her realization after that period seem limited. In the case or maharsi id said almost sure he's open to the unlimited but he's by default, or very easily, a natural phenomenon, then his explanation about how doing it seems quite vague, his process is not extrapolable