Breakingthewall

there is no rush for that! But when the body fails, it seems like an excellent way to get out of here. For me, the goal of undoing the illusion is to break free, hack the game, stop being a deluded puppet, and thereby enjoy the illusion-reality as much as possible. spending time thinking nonsensical things, since nothing makes sense, it's stupid, but the software we have makes it very difficult not to. the only way is to fall in love with the nothing, anything else leads to the same thing: ego, projection, fear, non-direct experience, thought. It doesn't means to became inhumane, cold, distantly, i think it makes the opposite . And 5meo is a good tool imo, always you use like a tool, not an objective itself. but I understand what you mean. that many people use spirituality as escapism. out of fear of life really, they deny life and get hooked on nothing. Could be in many cases but others... maybe the solitude, the void, is a really rich life. I'm open to that

What do you think about that experience? Imo you've had a shot of dark night of the soul in vein. 5meo has undressed you, taken off your colorful clothes, and what is left? nothing, zero, absolutely nothing. where is infinite love, god realization, etc? none of that, just emptiness. after a while your clothes have returned, and a mark has remained in your subconscious, it says: maya = life, something, i. absolute = nothing, zero, death. after this it becomes difficult to meditate (if I am correct in my interpretation of what you said). you just want to focus on the illusion. but deep down you know it's fake, just colored clothes, without any meaning, no purpose, only illusion, like a trick. we must return to the void. it is extremely challenging, counterintuitive. There's nothing there. but there is a detail: maya. Maya is, so the emptiness has to be something, but it is impossible to grasp it with the mind, it is the non-mind, nothing that can be explained. there is the key, the real. Accept that we are absolutely nothing is the first step , this is liberation, but it's impossible for the mind even to think in that. The other options is to stay to be hung as much as possible from an appearance that we know is empty. no way. there is no mother, no father, no meaning, no goal, no purpose. all that is only illusion, it does not exist. just clothes dressing nobody

Psychedelic are not only for enlightenment, they have enormous potential for release of trauma, for reconfiguration of energy, to undo knots. they can increase your quality of life in incredible ways. Another thing is that people too lazy to do meditation practices, lead an integrated life, in short, do the work, use them as a low cost substitute. this is very tempting, and I think negative. but if you use them as a complement to serious work, I think they are almost always positive

@OBEler i agree with you. in your girlfriend's circumstances is when psychedelics can work miracles

I don't like that word, normies, it makes me think of a group of snobs who think they are superior because of their supposed open-mindedness that later turns out not to be. I imagine them dressed in white linen and greeting each other saying "namaste" with a reverence, trying to look advanced all the time??

I think it's different. If you see a person on the street, functions are activated in you, such as recognition, feeling of friend or not, etc., very real in the sense of your human self. Another thing is that while you are walking you are veiled by the constant chatter in the background, and when you see that person the chatter analyze, speculate, hesitate. that talk is a grip on the ego due to the insecurity he feels, he is not able to trust his instinct since social interaction castrates him from the beginning, and replaces it with arbitrary conventions

@ROOBIO if you are going to vape, i think it's better to vape first 5 mg , and a few minutes later the rest. 5 + 8 is enough for me, but that depends on the person. start with 5 + 5, and add 2 mg (do it with 2 different pipes, or 2 flask better). if you don't get to the breakthrough it's not intimidating at all. tunnel vision, even seeing nothing but fractals with open eyes, but completely normal mind. at the breaking point you immediately go from normal, that is, a mind full of forms, to nothing, a flat mind. once you have achieved one or two breakthroughs, with low doses, type 3- 5 mg, although you keep your mind, you peek into the non-ego, quite interesting. but before the breakthrough these doses do nothing. what they say that lsd is like having a beer in comparison ... I don't think so. lsd or mushrooms can be much more challenging, they twist your mind. the 5meo is clean, noble. It's not a psychedelic, it's a eraser And another advice: don't drink alcohol before and after . 5 meo release and reconfigure your energy, like Kundalini. alcohol blocks this. It is very tempting to have a few beers afterwards, as if to relax the stress, and because your ego is going to try to come back as strong as he can. It is a mistake, you have to let the energy flow for a day or two. it's something very real

@Purple Man Interesting theory. the reality is that the matter of electromagnetic waves is very strange. and the impossibility of reaching that speed for something with mass as well. surely there is the key to the architecture of the universe

They say that it could only be measured if the speed of light is the same in both directions and that is unprovable ... well, I don't understand. if you move the lasers 1 km away, you measure from one side, then from the other, it gives you the same values, and that's it Why not? It is a very counterintuitive theory but its validity has been proven many times But anyway, i asked why they said the light have not any speed, like it's instantaneous, or infinite speed. I read that some times in this forum, one time in a post of Leo, maybe this is any theory , I'd like to know the reason to affirm that

well, there is directly a flaw in their exposition. They say that if you synchronize the clocks and then move them, they would no longer be synchronized due to the theory of relativity. It would be possible to know exactly what the variation is if the speed with which they have moved is measured exactly, and thus the speed of light could be measured exactly

Yeah , only probably, but i don't understand yet why is a problem to measure the speed of light with a laser, two atomic clock synchronized and no rebound. I will try to see that video... i ve problems with the English spoken

Probably it's true, why not? Why? you can synchronize the clocks, move them and do the measurement. where is the problem? in the speed of movement by having displaced them? can be calculated.

What do you mean? Really I'd like to understand that about the speed of light, there is something wrong there. The theory of relativity says that the speed of light is invariable, regardless of the movement of the observers, so space and time are variable. something very strange

Are you sure of that? Would be easy to make a direct measurement without bouncing

Impossible to understand spoken... anything similar wrote? I ve been searching but i didn't find anything about these theories. Why? It has been measured many times, in the void, air, water, even in a compound that reduced it to 50% or something like that.

@Adamq8 light is an electromagnetic wave that moves at 299 thousand km per second in the void regardless of the observer's movement (something most strange). this has been measured countless times. everything that does not have matter, including gravity, moves at that speed, and what has matter can never reach that speed ... the theory of relativity, thanks to which the gps system works and many other things. Totally proved.

But there are thoughts my friend, that is the thing. Before being born there is only being, empty, nothing, but afterwards there is something, thought, form. Here is the whole story, if there is this appearance, you can say that it is real or not, it is the same, something has generated it. Even if it is a thought, something has thought it. If there was nothing, just empty, everything perfect, no one would be asking these questions. oh yeah, nobody is doing them. but it looks like it! do not deny the obvious

as always ... there is no i, there is nothing, but there is a small detail: here we are talking. no no, it's not happening, it just seems like it. but it seems like it! nothing seems nothing, if it seems something ... well, it is something

I read that also in a post by leo, that the light is instantaneous. what do you mean? The speed of light is something quite mysterious and strange but its speed is more than proven

@Blackhawk There is something you can do that is meditate, the problem is that if you have a lot of live trauma you will not be able to. You have to untangle that first, because that makes the ego very heavy. in my experience what works miracles are the mushrooms in medium doses, there is no money to pay it. You take 2 or 3 grams of mushrooms and the trauma surfaces, you see it, you go into the hardware. and disappears. once you have a minimally peaceful mind, meditation. you have to understand that the experience, the content, is banal. no more experience matters. if it happens, very good, but you could well stay 5 years in a cave. this is very difficult, we all want things to happen to us, sex, etc. but you have to fall in love with emptiness, with no experience. If what you are looking for is a life full of events, you are going the other way. once in love with silence, to practice it. It's not easy, I'm not enlightened, I'm not pretending that, i don't want to stay for ever in a cave, i still want that things happen, but I see the banality of the event

well, the first ingredient is desperation. you have to realize that you are in a trap. this is a bad business. now fight, then decay, sickness, and then death. a nefarious plan. You have nothing to loose. once you see this clearly, that you are a rat on the wheel running without moving, taking your human spirit from looking for a solution where it seems impossible to find it. with the passion of the desperate who fights for his life, of the prisoner making a hole to escape from Alcatraz by jumping into the water with nothing to lose. in this you have to use all your intelligence. there are thousands of traps in between, thousands of exits that are not. Once you have despair, intelligence, passion and determination, you also have to have love for life, for the truth, for the beauty that is found in everything that exists. this may be hidden but it may appear as soon as you dig a little deeper. Once you start, your reality will expand, beyond any expectation, and I believe that once we have reached this point , things are more or less rolled, it is no longer need but passion for life, fun, pleasure, no expectations. Maybe sounds complicated but i think it's the only reasonable way to go

@Blackhawk You say things like it is impossible to stop the desire, I am afraid of psychedelics. what you need is not courage, but understanding. first to really understand what the ego is, how deep it goes, and then to understand that you are one step away from death. there is no courage because there is nothing to risk. security is an illusion. You are floating in the void and death is a millimeter away from you. Enlightenment is not a bold and ambitious goal, it is the most practical option. let go of everything because that everything is nothing. but really, it's nothing

I agree that there is only one etc etc, but as they say it seems that it is that you only exist as ego, the person, and you are imagining everything, the others egos. It seems that they say it like that to drive people crazy, because I'm sure they know it's not like that, there is only one and the rest are imaginary, but I too, at a higher level. At the level we are talking about, we are both equally real or not real. or so I think, who knows, but repeating the other is disturbing

Well it's possible I'm wrong and it was serious. Seems that was repeating that about we are all one to show that it's an easy and meaningless way out of all discussions ... but maybe that's what I think, same that to say that only you exist and the others are in your imagination. I've had two private messages from guys who just signed up here asking me: hey man, I have a question for you. are you real? Coz am I going crazy, tell me, are you conscious right now?

because he is repeating that ironically so that people will see that it is ridiculous to bring up non-dualistic arguments in relative discussions. And the truth is quite ridiculous, the same as that of, only I exist and I have created you all to be able to wake up. besides being disturbing for some