Breakingthewall

@Demeter i know, was the same, devastating ,alone in the void. but the question is that when you experienced the void wasn't ego there....so what was? Only your awareness? Maybe it was the only awareness that exist. The other possibility is that we keep some ego there and the ego facing the nothingness got desperate. I think there was no thought, but who knows...still scratching the surface

My egoic mind is thinking: so now you are alone, so it's nothing more to achieve, so you are stuck being god for the eternity . But I guess it should be wonderful that realization , over all because I'm almost sure that it's the reality. I understand it's terrifing too

I think that when there is a need for the mind to be in control all the time it is because there is an underlying insecurity. This happens to a greater or lesser extent to all of us. there is a feeling that you must be in control to be safe. This is an illusion because it is impossible to be in control. It could give you a heart attack in the next 15 seconds and die and there is no control that can prevent it, but the ego, seeing itself alone, produces enormous insecurity and needs that constant exhausting analysis. As you become aware that existence goes far beyond what the ego can encompass, that you are floating in existence and that your control is minimal, the compulsive thinking quickly relaxes. This understanding cannot be theoretical, it has to be direct, and for that, as far as I know, only meditation and psychhodelics work. it really works, and in a not too long period of time you can notice a very important change. I don't know if eliminating the ego talk completely will be possible, but that it becomes a background noise yes

I meant with breakthrough a total ego death, but maybe the real meaning is another. Ego death where it's no mind at all, absolutely unconsciousness of your body including

If it's a breakthrough there are no eyes to close...you are not human anymore for a while

I experienced I the same ,empty, dead, and was traumatic, specially the no-time, but days later I realized something. Was no concious being taking note? So how do you remember the void? Was a conciousness there.

Me depending, I had a breakthrough and two days later I couldn't remember, but in a moment in the middle of the night I remembered it exactly. Another ,I wrote about it and next day I absolutely forgot, I remember only that I wrote, but the trip zero. I think it's because my mind isn't prepared yet for it, and maybe because the effect smoking are too short

@Javfly33 yeah, next day the world looks "clean", but maybe it's time to change the roa. Smoke is too shocking, too fast and difficult to remember

They always say that it's a light, wonderful feeling etc, so it isn't the void

@Frenk must be neutral because is void, nothingness, but I experienced with 5 meo and I remember that at the end, I had a strong bad feeling, like, only me exist and the nothingness, and there is no time, no movement, I'm stuck here alone in the eternity of the no time. But maybe it was the ego facing the void. Or maybe god realising that is the only being...anyway, was really bad feeling , but despite that, is a real thing experienced the void and the eternity. I did 5 meo again and I remember that just after I thought. Yes, true, I'm the only being in the eternity, but I'm love I love my self and it's no loneliness. But I'm not sure because after I sleep and next day I had zero remember of that, I only remember that I thought that after. Probably was part real part suggestion. My conclusion is that realized the void first time is traumatic , maybe more than the void, the eternal no time, but you could accept it after, meditating, integration, etc, and maybe is a step necessary before other realizations

How was? Do you still remember? I had another 3 days ago and totally forgot next day. I remember what I thought after the experience, but neex day, 0 remembers of the experience

good production, that guy is very smart. He has realized that enlightenment is trend. leo has many followers! it is already a serious volume. Well now I say that I am more enlightened than him, that the 5 meo is nothing compared to my realization. I have also tried it! And I also do CrossFit, which is also a trend. two united trends! And I'm cultivate and play violin! Give me $$$$$$$!!!. maybe he has had a glimpse caused by 5 meo and that's it. money maker , only an opinion but look a fake super egoic

Who did the first design? It's a wonderful thing.

And who is truly enlightenment?

Absolutely, you are right. Also is divine to say that you have a super high state of conciousness to be an influencer and earn money. All is god. And maybe to be an smart guy and see where the business is , it's a kind of enlightenment

typical prejudice I guess, but I can hardly believe that a guy who spends 4 hours a day in the gym to increase his beauty and take 1000 photos to show the world how sexy he is, is enlightened ... but it is possible

In the past the people who felt the calling and wanted to know the truth have to do enormous sacrifices, renunciation to the society, years of meditation, be really smart to differentiate the delusions of the truth, and maybe they never had a real awakening. Now you could buy 5 meo, sit in you room, do it and you will go to the same place than that people, maybe deeper. so if you don't do it's because you aren't really wanting the truth

1 why you say that you aren't the body? You could be. An universe materialistic, millions of years of evolución, and voila, a body with a brain that think and talk, an algorithm, but you perceive that it isn't like that, itsnt it? 2 if you do psichodelics, especially 5 meo , you perceive the eternity and the conciousness, and Is more or less the same for everyone, and almost the same than the description of the mistics

Because the mind is limited. But it's very easy to forget that again and again

Perfect definition

I think in a level human are puppets, of animals, who act by instinct but in another level you can attract some circumstances with your deepest willing, or thoughts, like a kind of power, so you are the puppet and same time who make the puppet dance

In my experience, me , so god, realized that I was alone in the no time. So god realized of that in everyone ? God makes himself blind in every life, and awake in every life, but same time is only one. Definitely I wouldn't explain to my mom neither in a business lunch

Yeah! .Really good perception. It is. You are alone, but same time all is real. Love , miracle

I just did 5 meo again a wile ago, not big dose. I did 2 times separate. I was getting crazy feeling the eternity, and I did. Second time I realized of that. It's not like, in a way I'm a conciousness, no no. I'm one, I'm god, I'm eternal. Now I'm the guy again, nice to be! Really nice in fact. But what the fuck...I am eternal . Ha! How its possible??? Now I'm doubting, but in that moment was absolutely clear. Men, no solipsism , no alone, no problem. You are god my friend, and you love yourself, you are not sad of scared, you are like happy. Not happy, you love, nice , good. It's not a bad thing, really

Not exactly for the ego in my experience. Was like: I'm one. I'm alone. It's eternal. Wasn't the ego who realized. Was the one that I am. I'm the one, eternal, alone. It's a not small realization. I'm god. Ha! Not so bad at least. But I'm alone. Only me exist. But brothers, it's real. You are one, alone, eternal. How is possible this craziness?????